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What does this Danny Ford Video mean to you?
Jan 30, 2013, 1:17 AM
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I was too young to understand what was going on. But, you can tell that he was loved on a level like no other coach ever at Clemson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HS_ST7Nz8U
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Still have bad memories about the forced resignation….
Jan 30, 2013, 1:20 AM
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then the Hatfield era. Although I have to say, Ford pretty much forced the AD and Prez's hand in the forced resignation. After all a few weeks before the forced resignation he was blasting the AD and the Prez over something that got banned by the NCAA a year later. And he blasted them at a speaking event in Cootlumbia of all places.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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They were not satisfied with his level of integrity.
Jan 30, 2013, 9:32 AM
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The rest was just excuse, imo.
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110%er [5013]
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I too have bad memories of this event.... But
Jan 30, 2013, 2:00 AM
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Bobby Robinson and the administration really screwed the pooch on this situation and Ford was sick and tired of being their #####. He didn't bow down and kiss their &$&@ and in te end, it blew up in the media. That could only end badly as it did.
Sure, Ford shares some blame, but he was defending his program from being held to a higher standard than UGA, Alabama, LSU, Florida, Ohio Stare, et al and thus tying his hands so we couldn't stay competitive.
There were no winners in this. And we are just now starting to come out of the 30 year wilderness of mediocrity thanks to this whole debacle.
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Sorry, but you got this one wrong…..
Jan 30, 2013, 2:30 AM
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I'm a big Danny Ford fan, but he has a serious problem of putting his foot in his mouth. Bobby Robinson and Max Lennon didn't do anything while Ford was the HC to make Clemson less competitive. After all look at the talent we had Ford's last season. That 1989 team was one of the best Clemson teams, and really should have been undefeated in the regular season. If you remember correctly, Hatfield was able to go 8-3 in 1993 off of the strength of the players Ford recruited.
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110%er [5013]
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I respect your perspective
Jan 30, 2013, 3:16 AM
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However, the administration was so skittish thanks to all,of the NCAA attention that they wanted to exert their power on Ford to essentially neuter his aggressiveness in recruiting and in how he handled the team.
It was a clash of wills and personalities and the administration felt Danny had gotten too big for his britches.
If Robinson had been a person Danny could actually respect, it would have turned out differently. But Robinson was/is a perfect example of a privileged little snot who was promoted to his highest level of incompetency and should never have had that job in the first place. Ford knew that and was not in any mood to take dictates from such a sniveling little snot who didn't have a clue about the real world in which college football competition was having to be waged in that era.
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You do realize....
Jan 30, 2013, 7:55 AM
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that Robinson was adamantly opposed to Lennon's decision to force Danny out.
He was also opposed to hiring Hatfield as Danny's replacement.
As AD, Robinson became the scapegoat but the reality is, the decision to oust Danny was made by Lennon and a few members of the BOT.
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Re: I too have bad memories of this event.... But
Jan 30, 2013, 2:33 AM
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The 1990's should have been Clemson's best years. Instead, FSU filled that vacuum.
My friend's dad handled the steroid/Joe Morrison scandal in Columbia as an attorney.
Let's just say the SMU scandal that nuked it's program could have happened at USC but the scandal died another way.
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Yes. And Robinson should have resigned out of protest.***
Jan 30, 2013, 8:21 AM
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I too am a big Danny fan, but Danny had lost control of the
Jan 30, 2013, 4:05 AM
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team. There was a lot of internal things going on. Danny was also attacking the administration in open forums across the state and cut any olive branch before it could be extended. Then, another NCAA probation was being whispered in the dark corners of the NCAA. It was not a good time for Danny, Danny's family, or the Clemson family.
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Re: I too am a big Danny fan, but Danny had lost control of the
Jan 30, 2013, 5:16 AM
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Just asking out of curiosity. In what way did Danny lose control of the team? Certainly did not lose control on the football field.
In regards to Bobby Robinson, what a wuss. Glad he is no longer around
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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I am with you, he was the ultimate players coach and they
Jan 30, 2013, 6:30 AM
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would give the 110% for him. How many since have actually lived up to our motto?
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one of the post above hit the nail on the head
Jan 30, 2013, 6:10 AM
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Ford leaving murdered clemson football as we knew it then....30 years later we have climbed back close to the top....I hope to hell we mever jave to endure a run like the last 30 years ever again.
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110%er [5013]
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Exactly!***
Jan 30, 2013, 6:23 AM
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fords players respected him
Jan 30, 2013, 7:33 AM
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And they alsp feared letting him down....there was never a question of who was in charge when ford was there.....I see a lot of the same in swinney....only in time will we see if he can step out of fords shadow...
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Like I mentioned, that will be hard to do
Jan 30, 2013, 8:13 AM
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Even if we win a national championship. College football is so different now, especially with the conferences competing for billions in TV money. The teams are also more equal than ever. Throughout the 80's there were perhaps 5-6 teams that ruled college football. Now there is a conference that rules it, and there are perhaps a dozen teams or more that can realistically win it all.
We were in rare air when Danny was our coach. We kept assistants much longer, and the coaching carousel was not what it is today. To establish a dynasty you have to get good coaches, and KEEP them. That's harder to do than ever today. There's too much money going around to have just a few teams at the top. Some day colleges will figure out that you throw out the most money for good coaches, and keep them. THEN, after you achieve success, use the extra money that comes in for facilities. That's what Alabama has done. At the time everyone thought it was ridiculous the amount they paid him to get him from LSU. Their gamble has paid off. I'm glad to see Clemson step up to the plate with our assistants salaries.
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Agree again! Dang...
Jan 30, 2013, 8:29 AM
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Swinney has the player's backs and they love his passion. No one want to let him down or put him in a bad situation. He will get his chance to be the second coming of Ford.
I would like to see him move to AD one day and let Chad take over the team, but I'm dreaming up a way to keep both here for a long, long time.
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It was the start of a 20-year down period for Clemson
Jan 30, 2013, 8:01 AM
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football. If you think back to the 80's, we were light years ahead of the curve in college football. We had IPTAY and the means and money to create a top notch stadium back when there were relatively few in college football. IPTAY really wrote the book for fundraising in college football. In the last 20 years everyone has caught up with us and some have surpassed us with facilities, fund raising, etc.
We are coming back after another young assistant coach was promoted from the ranks to head coach. There are many similarities between Dabo and Danny.
Ford was the man who put Clemson football on the map. He did it before there was a love affair with the SEC, before ESPN took off, and before college football really took off with the money it has today.
The world of college football is so different today it would be hard to match what he did because the circumstances are so very different now. Gone are the days when perhaps 4-5 teams ruled college football, from various conferences. Today there are perhaps a dozen or more teams that can, in any given year, compete for all the marbles.
Going back to Danny, the reason he was fired, as I understand it, had to do with athletic dorms. He wanted to build a set of dorms for athletes, and he and Robinson got into a very heated argument about that issue. That ongoing argument eventually led to coach Ford's being fired. Ironically, the NCAA banned athletic dorms a few years later although they were common in the 1980's. USC had "The Roost" and Clemson basically had just Mauldin Hall. Danny wanted a specific dorm built for athletes, and for football players and if we had done that we would have been burned financially within just a few years. Yes, Danny was wrong on this issue, but that was no reason alone to fire him. I think the animosity between he and Robinson on this issue got very personal, and that's why he was fired.
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Re: Re: I too am a big Danny fan, but Danny had lost control of the
Jan 30, 2013, 8:24 AM
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Therr were some racial issues that became personal for Danny and his family. That is all I want to say about it.
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It was a very sad day...learned about from a coot who was
Jan 30, 2013, 8:25 AM
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giddy when he called to give me the news. Truly believe that had Danny stayed we had another NC or two in us. I was there from 83-89 and witnessed some great football.
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Max Lennon was arguably one of the worst
Jan 30, 2013, 8:43 AM
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Presidents Clemson has ever had. Barker is in top 5 - even though I have criticized him.
If Barker can somehow get Clemson back on track to serving the kids of South Carolina first, he would get a statue of his likeness on campus one day.
Speaking of which, we need to do that for Danny near the stadium to stick it in the eye on Lennon and Robinson and the BOT members at that time!
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Re: Re: I too am a big Danny fan, but Danny had lost control of the
Jan 30, 2013, 8:26 AM
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There were some racial issues that became personal for Danny and his family. That is all I want to say about it.
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Re: Re: I too am a big Danny fan, but Danny had lost control of the
Jan 30, 2013, 8:39 AM
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Then why say anything at all because you just said it?
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Nobody is going to admit they are wrong after 25 years...
Jan 30, 2013, 9:34 AM
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of being wrong.
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I have deer hunted with him in Lockhart. My family has
Jan 30, 2013, 10:19 AM
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traded cows with him for years. I have heard him farrtt and cuss like he never used a dictionary. Danny is not god! He was an excellent coach, but he had his foibles. And it was a much different culture then than it is now. I still like him and deeply appreciate all he did for Clemson Football. I didn't ask the questions, but to place the blame completely on the administration (one of which I absolutely abhored) is just not fair.
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please expound***
Jan 30, 2013, 11:05 AM
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Terrier....
Jan 30, 2013, 8:39 PM
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I believe everything you've said is 100% truth. Danny was no saint.....every man has his faults.....but he will likely go down as the best coach ever at Clemson University. That video just made me sad.
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Danny was a rassist!
Jan 30, 2013, 9:22 AM
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Fish and milk will kill you.
Snakes don't bite underwater.
Aids spreads in public toilets.
If you don't have sex for 7 years your cherry will grow back.
The world is flat.
Smoking Marboro will make you sterile.
She won't get pregnant if you pull it out.
I'll only stick it part the way in.
The check's in the mail.
These are facts if you believe the old wives.
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Re: What does this Danny Ford Video mean to you?
Jan 30, 2013, 8:59 AM
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I loved Danny Ford and what he accomplished at Clemson. I hated when he left, but we have to move on. Dabo is GREAT for Clemson now, and I hope he becomes a legend like Danny was.
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Danny pulled away in a Taurus man, A FORD TAURUS.
Jan 30, 2013, 9:02 AM
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we've come a long way.
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I marched from Bowman to the president's house
Jan 30, 2013, 9:38 AM
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with my 2 dogs. It was fun.
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Oculus Spirit [90819]
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I drove over & was at Clemson House for news conference.....
Jan 30, 2013, 10:10 AM
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and my life & Clemson Football have not been the same since!
GoTiGERs!
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Re: What does this Danny Ford Video mean to you?
Jan 30, 2013, 11:03 AM
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My grandpa died a long time. I regret his untimely death and I still miss him. But I am mostly over it.
I saw Coach Ford about a month ago. He seemed to be doing well. And the Tigers have won 21 games in the last two years, including an upset of 7th ranked LSU last time out.
Life is good.
Harley
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You young folks
Jan 30, 2013, 8:45 PM
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don't remember the great Clemson teams during Danny's time, but it was awesome. I feel like we may be on the cusp of the 21st century version (things are VERY different now), but next season will tell us for sure.
The other thing you young folks don't remember is when Frank Howard had an office and did a piece every week during the football season for the Tiger Tailgate show. We need something like that for Danny. He needs to be in the ring of honor, not just as the coach of the NC team!
Danny was human, and he did make mistakes, but his firing was one of the worst days in Clemson football history. We need to make it as right as we can. He has said that he won't be used as a PR tool. We need to REALLY make him part of Clemson again. It is his destiny!!!!
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