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What is the deal with this Geno Auriemma dude?
Feb 7, 2015, 8:15 PM
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There was a preview about the game between UConn and the coots on ESPN, and I can't help but think...
What is this guy's deal? As a heterosexual man, I can only think of ONE, yes ONE, reason why I would actually want to coach a women's sports team over a men's. Aside from that, you are sacrificing a fair amount of money as well as national recognition given less viewers for women's basketball over men's.
By no means am I trying to put down women's sports, or the effort and intensity they display equal to men, but I can't logically understand why a male coach would not want to coach men, or atleast eventually transition over as many coaches do who wish to keep climbing up the ladder, so to speak.
Is there something about his personal life I am missing? Does he have daughters that play basketball? All smoke and mirrors and not actually that good of a coach? Just made me curious because it seems somebody that has had that level of success coaching women would eventually want to test their prowess at the highest level possible.
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he's one of the best bball coaching in America.... if not
Feb 7, 2015, 8:17 PM
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the best
women's basketball on that level isn't what you are used to seeing in your local high school games... They can play and they are just as competitive, if not moreso, than guys.
There's not much difference when it comes to coaching mens and womens on that level. The same amount of preparation goes into it.
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Well yea...that's why I asked
Feb 7, 2015, 8:25 PM
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He seems to be incredibly effective as a coach. He must have turned down offers left and right over the years.
It's just kind of strange to me. You normally don't see coaches completely content with remaining at one level. Heck, even if he didn't want to coach males, why in the world would he not be coaching professional women's basketball at this point? Most high school coaches want to be college coaches. Most college coaches eventually want to try their hand professionally, and professional coaches usually want to be HOF'ers.
It's just seems innate in coaches that they are always trying to push and challenge themselves to get to the next level. Even coaches that don't care to challenge themselves are always looking for a bigger paycheck.
This guy certainly qualifies for one. Seems like he's happy where is. Good for him. As a male in the coaching world though, it seems a bit anomalous.
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Re: What is the deal with this Geno Auriemma dude?
Feb 7, 2015, 8:26 PM
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He's not sacrificing any money. He makes $2 million a year and has lifetime tenure.
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Devotee [337]
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That hasn't always been the case though
Feb 7, 2015, 8:59 PM
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Even so, why would he get into women's coaching in the first place? That's what made me think possibly he had daughters.
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Going to be sarcastic here
Feb 7, 2015, 9:53 PM
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I feel the same way every time I see a male coaching high school girls....
Lol
The guy is a great coach!
How can you even bring this up without casting the " aura" of why would he want to coach " women".... He obviously knows what he is doing and loves it... And I have never felt he " settled".... Coaching females and their hormones and other issues is a whole lot harder than coaching men... Any day of the week....
Just a post of someone never connected to women's sports and a disconnect from the passion of a sport
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Devotee [337]
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Bengalbabe
Feb 7, 2015, 10:09 PM
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I hope I didn't offend you, it certainly wasn't my intent. I realized my post may be a bit controversial, but it's a topic and a psychology that I am truly interested in concerning his situation.
This society places a lot of emphasis on the "macho man". The guy who commands respect when he enters a room, holds himself confidently, and provides for him and his family. Clearly Geno is these things and more. But generally speaking alpha males such as Geno want to prove their worth at the highest possible level, which, whether you would like to admit it or not, is male athletics.
I have a ton of respect for what he has done. But it is an interesting situation in terms of social psychology. What would compel a male to coach women rather than what they are most familiar with, other males? I understand if you are breaking your way into coaching, you are going to take whatever is offered to you. But this is a guy that, way before his contract got to where it is, could have made the transition for more money and more recognition at that time.
I don't know why this is such a big deal to me, but as a male it is a bit interesting that he never had that drive or me.
That's why I assumed perhaps he had daughters. My father was always the coach of my sisters teams growing up, but aside from that he was more passionate and involved in me and my brothers athletics because, as a male, it was something he could more closely empathize with since he grew up playing sports with other males.
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Re: Going to be sarcastic here
Feb 7, 2015, 10:11 PM
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having coached both guys and girls at rec. level in both basketball and softball, give me girls any day of the week. I found them easier to coach and more willing to do what you ask on field and court.
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He found his niche there
Feb 7, 2015, 8:45 PM
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and just stayed with it. He obviously has the persona and charisma and looks that attracts women, and uses this to advantage to get the highest level recruits in, along with his coaching chops. In the women's arena, the way he brings them in, he stays on top in a sport that has had little parity over the years, and he can stay dominant. Women's basketball features just a few teams that continually blow everybody else out. Why leave this with the money he already makes?
In addition, believe it or not, women are much more coachable and malleable. They're easeier to work with and "reach". Men on the whole are much cockier and not nearly as teachable. I know - I've coached both groups for years.
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Re: What is the deal with this Geno Auriemma dude?
Feb 7, 2015, 8:49 PM
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About to make that transition myself. I love coaching girls basketball and the game is taught the same way, but I have always been intrigued by the men's game. Spacing is better and they seem to grasp concepts a little better.
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Devotee [337]
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Exactly
Feb 7, 2015, 8:54 PM
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The X's and O's don't change, which exactly why it seems strange to me. Just curious, do you know how many male coaches are currently coaching women's bball? Or any that have been doing it remotely as long as he has? Genuinely curious, I don't know.
Just seems kind of soft if you ask me...as a man I can't imagine eventually not wanting to coach at the men's level.
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Re: Exactly
Feb 7, 2015, 11:26 PM
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> The X's and O's don't change, which exactly why it
> seems strange to me. Just curious, do you know how
> many male coaches are currently coaching women's
> bball? Or any that have been doing it remotely as
> long as he has? Genuinely curious, I don't know.
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> Just seems kind of soft if you ask me...as a man I
> can't imagine eventually not wanting to coach at the
> men's level.
5 of the 8 girls teams in our region have male coaches. I wanna say Eastside is only Greenville 3a school with female hc. The number is probably way larger than you think. Not sure at college level but I bet it's 50/50 or close to it.
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The reality is a good high school boys team would smoke
Feb 8, 2015, 1:09 AM
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the best female teams, college or WNBA. When I was at Clemson in the 80s my buddies on the tennis team said most really good high school #1 players could beat most female pros and any good college player could smoke the best women pros. Take the boys SC high school basketball champions and they would kill the Lady Gamecocks. It wouldn't even be competitive. It's painful watching the WNBA. They simply are not very athletic. I'd be willing to bet the boys intramural champions at Clemson could beat the NCAA or WNBA champions.
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Re: The reality is a good high school boys team would smoke
Feb 8, 2015, 8:15 AM
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> the best female teams, college or WNBA. When I was at
> Clemson in the 80s my buddies on the tennis team said
> most really good high school #1 players could beat
> most female pros and any good college player could
> smoke the best women pros. Take the boys SC high
> school basketball champions and they would kill the
> Lady Gamecocks. It wouldn't even be competitive. It's
> painful watching the WNBA. They simply are not very
> athletic. I'd be willing to bet the boys intramural
> champions at Clemson could beat the NCAA or WNBA
> champions.
May have been true in 80s.....have you seen these women lately? Bigger, faster, stronger hasn't just hit the male rosters.
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Boys didn't stop gtting better. Only a handful in the WNBA
Feb 8, 2015, 9:21 AM
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can dunk even trying alone much less in a game. They look awkward even dribbling. The skill levels are not even close. Guys are way faster and quicker on fast breaks, would kill girls on the boards, and in a half court offense guys are so much stronger girls would never have a chance.
Our mens team would beat the WNBA champion or an all star team by 30 or more.
It doesn't matter how much bigger, taller, faster, stronger girls get. Boys are developing too maintaining a huge gap physically and in skills.
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Whatever the reason....
Feb 7, 2015, 8:49 PM
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he's been successful as he!!
Not the world's most loved individual, though
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Re: Whatever the reason....
Feb 7, 2015, 8:54 PM
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Geno no like the dunking.
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I'm sure it crossed his mind at some point, but he's making
Feb 7, 2015, 8:55 PM
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2 million dollars a year, which is competitive to what the top men's coaches make, and he has a chance to become the most successful women's basketball coach in the history of the sport. If he were to switch over to the men's game, his legacy would, unfairly, be defined by how his stint as a men's coach went. There's no reason for him to take that risk when he can win championships every other year at UConn and continue to cement himself as a coaching legend.
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you do know Jim Davis coached Clemson's women's team
Feb 7, 2015, 10:09 PM
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For like 18 years.
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Re: you do know Jim Davis coached Clemson's women's team
Feb 7, 2015, 10:13 PM
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and was our most successful coach.
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But not the success of Geno so not the same situation.***
Feb 8, 2015, 1:12 AM
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Why would he leave?
Feb 7, 2015, 10:49 PM
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He's successful and makes tons of money. It's hard to make a jump from Womens BB to NBA. He gets more exposure from winning NCG's at Uconn then he would in the WNBA. He's good, recruiting is cake, and has far less competition. Why would he leave?
They made a special on his life story. If I remember correctly he lucked out with the job over a guy that was way more qualified. Uconn took a chance on him and he's remained loyal. It's pretty simple.
Also there are TONS of coaches that have no interest in moving up to the Pros. Coach K for example.
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