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Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 9:58 PM
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They can be VERY good this year. They have a ridiculous amount of talent on defense and johnny Wilson can completely shift a defensive plan. They are GOOD. The only reason we think of them as they are is because they haven't been complete in a while.
Is Jordan Travis an NFL QB? Imo, no. Is he someone that can absolutely light you up with his legs and surrounding cast? Yes.
I get the frustrated crowd seeing FSU ranked above us, but it's warranted. They are our toughest opponent, not ND. Not sure why that would ruffle any feathers, let's beat the best team on our schedule.
I give our defense the edge, and until Cade proves he's in the same sentence as deshaun or Trevor, I give their offense the edge.
OL, FSU. DL, Clemson. This will come down to each teams CB and WR matchups. RB will be the wild card. Whoever passes better will win the game.
That being said. I'm so glad we have this kind of game with FSU again. Feels like the do or die we haven't had in forever.
See you in the valley, Noles! My best man (FSU alum) and I can't wait for the biggest game of the season.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:03 PM
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I don't hate FSU, but they lost 3 games in the league last year. They need to prove it on the field.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:06 PM
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Definitely. I'm saying I don't get why everyone is so mad that they are ranked over us in most polls. We did not look like a national contender last year and media thinks they do. We just need to beat them.
I just find it a little wild that they are ranked higher than us in nearly every poll. Makes it a much sweeter victory. It's been a while since I really cared about win over FSU
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:08 PM
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FSU feels like ‘08 Clemson …
Based on potential not performance….
Do I think FSU finishes 7-6 …no…
They’ll probably lose only 2-3 games - but their ranking is even more lofty than our ‘08 team…
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 18, 2023, 12:34 AM
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I’ve been thinking this as well. They won’t likely implode like we did but who knows. There’s always a team that on paper should be great with pre season hype that flops terribly and it just feels like that might be FSU this year.
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They start with LSU, have us in middle, and end at UF. So
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May 18, 2023, 7:33 AM
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of course they can lose 2-3 games and still finish with a great season and a big bowl.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:36 PM
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That sounds a lot like losing.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:09 PM
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You have been listening to much to the talking heads.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:47 PM
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I wouldn't say that. I'm more of an evaluation guy and have followed depth charts, recruiting, transfer portal and development.
Maybe you just havent followed and have no idea how good FSU can be this year.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:10 PM
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Very nice post. To be the best, you have to beat the best, period. FSU has a great history, great fan base, huge recruiting base but guess what, so do we. Games with FSU and listening to their band, that takes about 6 busses to get them the game, is just what college football in The Valley is all about. September 23 is a huge day, Go Tigers.
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Dookie ice and throwing batteries at
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May 17, 2023, 10:13 PM
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Clemson players is what your school is about.
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Re: Dookie ice and throwing batteries at
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May 18, 2023, 11:03 AM
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🤣🤣🤣 good one BBO!!!
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 17, 2023, 10:11 PM
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I don't hate them. I would love to see them back. But, I hate unwarranted hype. And I hated hearing all year about LSU's good loss to FSU and Clemson getting no love for beating FSU. On the road!
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We need FSU to compete
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May 17, 2023, 10:16 PM
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They have improved significantly both in academic rankings and on the football field. Good for Clemson and good for realignment.
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Re: We need FSU to compete
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May 17, 2023, 11:13 PM
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FSU and Clemson in the playoffs would actually be awesome and shut a lot of people up.
"But we have to play Kentucky and Miss St and Vandy and Arkansas and Missouri and Usuc" - SEC
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
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May 18, 2023, 5:22 AM
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No one hates them. This preseason top 4 crap is ridiculous. Nothing they did last year warrants top 5 hype. I know portal yada yada yada, that still doesn’t give them a top 5 roster.
Last year NCSU and UNCheat the year before that, looked better on paper. They were over hyped as well. FSU is getting the same hype plus the bonus of having a history. I could see preseason 15-20 but not top 4.
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Never have "hated" any of our opponents, including
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May 18, 2023, 5:31 AM
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the Seminoles.
In fact, I thought and still think they were a great addition to our conference and remain worthy opponents.
I just don't put much stock in any preseason rankings, which to me are highly speculative and prejudicial. They are, also, the reason why I have believed the CFP rankings need to be moved earlier in each season.
The fact is if the conference is going to stay intact with us as a member, we better hope FSU and other members' football programs improve dramatically.
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FSU = UNC, Miami, NC State and the rest of the pretenders
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May 18, 2023, 6:50 AM
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GO TIGERS BEAT EN ALL!
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
May 18, 2023, 7:18 AM
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The proof's in the puddin... They have to actually win some big games before I'll say they're back. Even if they have a better year this year, they will just be a flash in the pan. The portal potty will only support you for one year. It's a Band-Aid. If they can step up their recruiting, they can really be good in 2-3 years.
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F St should be favored to win the ACC imo
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May 18, 2023, 7:26 AM
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We might beat them in the Valley but I think they have the upper hand in Charlotte.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
May 18, 2023, 8:42 AM
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They literraly have no excuses not to finally beat us this year, glad we got them at home....I'm sure that'll be a night game too. Maybe Gameday
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
May 18, 2023, 9:20 AM
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No hate from me. They have the puzzle pieces, but Jimbo Fisher had better pieces at A&M last year than FSU will have this year. You have to win to get respect.
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May 18, 2023, 9:55 AM
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when they finished ranked ahead of us last year. They were 10-3 and had a really good year, showing significant improvement from the year prior. They have some good pieces back, and I expect them to be a tough opponent for everyone (including us).
The talk about them not beating us in X number of years and all that is largely irrelevant to the upcoming season. They are our biggest competition in the ACC this year.
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Re: Not sure I get all the FSU hate
May 18, 2023, 11:25 AM
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FSU represents a program that isn’t afraid to do what it takes to win at all costs. I think SOME Clemson fans are a bit jealous of the Noles because they have used the portal and not recruiting and development to get the attention they are getting. And being projected to maybe beat Clemson using the portal when Clemson won’t use it at all makes it more annoying. We just wanted a few wideouts Dabo!!!
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Built the lazy way with mercenaries (transfers). That’s what I hate.
May 18, 2023, 2:13 PM
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HS players getting the shaft!
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