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Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 3:02 PM
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“ we are taking what they’re giving us“
I’m sorry folks, but I have never heard the coach of an elite football team use that type of language. They dictated the game to the opponents.
I have felt this way for years and it always irritates me when Dabo says that nonsense. The fact is we are soft. At no point have we had an Oline since the Danny Ford years that was dominant and could dictate what we did to the opposition.
During this great run we have had regular season games against crappy ACC teams where we struggled scoring touchdowns in short yardage situations or to get that tough 3rd or 4th and 1 to put a game away. We have not been a physical team.
Yes yes yes. I know we dominated Alabama that one championship game but that wasn’t on the ground. We just came out great that night and played well as a team but most of that was Trevor Lawrence throwing the ball. A few games here and there don’t change the fact that we have been soft and have struggled to get a yard when we had to have it.
It starts with the OL. And we simply have not had a truly great or dominant OL since the last of the Danny Ford players. That was our biggest weakness under Tommy Bowden and it has been our one weakness under Dabo.
We must get this fixed! If that means some coaches heads need to roll then that’s what needs to be done.
Making excuses is not gonna fix the problem.
We will not win another national championship until we get this problem fixed.
Packer and EMac talked about how ridiculous it is we do not dictate to other teams on this morning‘s Packer and Durham. And they talked about how stupid it was that we didn’t have DJ take a knee from under center to kill the clock at the end of the game and avoid the safety and the onside kick. That was pathetic coaching! Worst coaching I have seen at Clemson since Tommy Bowden pulled Merriweather for an injured CJ Spiller at the end of the South Carolina game.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 3:04 PM
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we may not agree on much Low, but on this I am 100% with you. Spot on.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 22, 2021, 10:39 AM
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I'll tell you what is getting old is all the moaning, groaning, and disrespecting of coaches and players by a whining spoiled fan base.
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This is what happens when you pay multiple coaches
Sep 26, 2021, 4:15 PM
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7 figures a year and squeeze every red cent you can out of your fan base, prioritizing corporate donors over long-term IPTAY givers.
The relationship tends to get a little more transactional and a little less loyal. The administration created this dynamic, not the fans. The AD hasn’t cared about individual donors for 7+ years.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 3:07 PM
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Merriweather was pulled for James Davis. Still
Sep 20, 2021, 3:07 PM
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a bad decision.
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Then call iptay. Tell them you will pull your monies if Dabo
Sep 20, 2021, 3:08 PM
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doesn't start answering to you.
Packer and EMac are just blowhards who get paid to ramble . The more controversy they can stir up the more they get paid. They are certainly not experts on football coaching. Well, no more so than any other sunday morning armchair coach
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Re: Then call iptay. Tell them you will pull your monies if Dabo
Sep 20, 2021, 9:04 PM
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Not true, Packer under normal circumstances is considered a Clemson homer. Anyone who sugarcoats the GT game and expouses the "all is good" mantra are likely either a university mouthpiece or naive
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Re: Then call iptay. Tell them you will pull your monies if Dabo
Sep 21, 2021, 11:53 PM
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They have a teet, Iptay, if you want to milk it. You're just making excuses. There are glaring issues, you'd be blind not to see. It wasn't Oklahoma or OSU. It was GT! I have plenty more thoughts on this. 10 million per year/NIL have a lot to do with it.
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Re: But Alabama Is Unbeatable ---
Sep 20, 2021, 3:19 PM
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I'll take beating Alabama any which way we can. To do it twice is incredible. Those 2 wins against them had kids on those teams that had that '''' I want to "" look in their eyes. Even when we lost to Alabama in the desert those kids had that look in their eyes.
All of that was before the NIL hit. I don't mind the kids getting money but pay them during the off-season. What I see now is several confused players on offense that look like they don't even want to play or know what they're doing.
I don't know exactly what us wrong with DJ...but I bet the Puma Man knows what to do. The drama between Spiller and Lyn J doesn't make sense to be carrying on like it is. I'm trying to understand T. Elliott but he is not looking at all the plays we have to get this offense rolling.
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Re: But Alabama Is Unbeatable ---
Sep 20, 2021, 3:43 PM
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I was a fan through the lean years, so two Mattie's are truly great. Keep in mind that Saban is the only coach in modern era who built and maintained a dynasty. I fear We are slipping back to the lean years. You can't be nice and patient if you want to remain on top. Saban would not be making excuses, he would be chopping heads.
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Re: But Alabama Is Unbeatable ---
Sep 20, 2021, 9:22 PM
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I want Clemson to BEAT Bama a few more times, not take what they give us.
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Re: But Alabama Is Unbeatable ---
Sep 26, 2021, 6:17 PM
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Amen son. Amen!
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Didnt Dabo fire Rob Spence for saying that?***
Sep 20, 2021, 3:26 PM
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Yeah but you also think covid is a hoax and dogs cant look
Sep 20, 2021, 3:34 PM
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up. I pretty much disregard everything you put out there. Even if you might be close to right in this instance.
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Please point out where I said Covid was a hoax.
Sep 22, 2021, 12:34 AM
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I have never ever said that.
But it is a hoax the way the media and the Democrats are behaving. Cove it is nowhere near as deadly as other viruses. It’s in the #### data! We know for a fact it mostly kills old people and people that are fat and with diabetes. The data is crystal clear. Cove it is not randomly kill people. The seasonal flu kills thousands of children every year in America. Less than 500 kids under the age of 18 have died from Covid. Less than 1500 people under the age of 25 have died from Covid.
People like that CDC in very high positions have recently quit over this nonsense. The UK has taken off the table given the vaccine to people under the age of 18. People at the CDC have admitted there is no evidence that a booster would have any effect.
Get on some legitimate websites some legitimate YouTube channels with award-winning independent journalists and some of the top doctors in the world that are pushing back against this nonsense!
The media and the Democrats are fear mongering because Covid is nowhere near as dangerous as we are being told and all you have to do is some basic math to understand that because anyone can get the data from the CDC online it’s updated daily.
My God man open your eyes. Tons of people on the left well respected progressives are pushing back against this BS! This isn’t some right wing Trump thing. It’s common sense!
Get online and look at the data. Delta is not killing as many people as the original Covid even though more people are being infected because it is more infectious. It is not as deadly.
You are brainwashed! The data does not support you nor the CDC nor the Democrats nor the media.
History is going to be brutal on the brainwashed people from Covid as well as the left wing extremism taking over our institutions right now. You people are on the wrong side of history!
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Re: Please point out where I said Covid was a hoax.
Sep 22, 2021, 8:33 AM
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This conversation always revolves into you revealing you don’t value the elderly or the diabetic.
Take a few plays off from your rambling, low_country
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Re: Please point out where I said Covid was a hoax.
Sep 22, 2021, 8:43 AM
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Please show us where he said he didn't like the elderly or diabetics. Spoken like a true libtard.
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Re: Please point out where I said Covid was a hoax.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:19 AM
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He said we shouldn’t worry about covid because it only kills the elderly and the fat and diabetic. What did I misinterpret?
I’m conservative btw
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Then you’re not a very intelligent conservative.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:36 AM
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You’re not like any conservative or libertarian I know. Because the ones I know are rational. The emotional little children and school girls are on the left.
And I never said we don’t have to be concerned with Covid. I have always said Covid is real and serious. What I have also sad is when you look at the data when you look at the statistics the way the government is responding is stupid and ridiculous and more people are being harmed long term by the government than Covid.
The data is very clear about who is at risk of Covid. It’s not children, it’s not people in their 20s and 30s, it’s not healthy people, it’s very specific groups. But governments around the world are treating this as if you are killing people by walking out the house if you aren’t vaccinated and wearing a mask. That is just ludicrous and insane!
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Re: Then you’re not a very intelligent conservative.
Sep 22, 2021, 10:34 AM
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I wrote a long response denounce your ad hominem, reading comprehension and sanity that included phrases like “Freedom isn’t free.” But in the end I realized questions are always more important than statements so maybe I should ask one or two and I may understand better why you are so convinced that you shouldn’t have to make any small sacrifice in the name of the public well being.
Have you known anyone that died of Covid?
Do you support individualism to the degree you support all seemingly personal choices that may affect the health and well-being of others? I.e are you completely anti-vaccinations? Do you disagree with health insurance increased costs for smokers? Do you believe in a woman’s right to abort her pregnancy? Do you support full legalization of schedule 1 drugs?
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No. I don’t know anyone that died from Covid.
Sep 26, 2021, 4:09 PM
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My parents know several people.
Why does that matter? I was scared my parents had Covid two weeks ago. My mother is 79 and my father is 80. I would hate for anyone in my family or close to me to die from Covid. It would not change my opinion, however, about how Covid is being handled because someone close to you dying doesn’t change the data the statistics or the science. Getting emotional over something doesn’t change the facts.
I am personally pro life because having a baby does not ruin your life. You can give the baby up for adoption and change the lives of so many families.
But as a libertarian I think each state should decide how they want to manage abortion per the constitution as this is in fact a states rights issue.
The constitution gave very limited and specific powers to the federal government. Abortion is not one of them. Neither is public health.
From a purely political standpoint I would not have a problem supporting abortion as a legal right if the people in each state vote that way but limited to the first trimester like virtually every country in Europe.
I used to be in favor of legalizing marijuana but Alex Berenson and others have done some excellent research the last few years and documented pretty much without doubt that marijuana today is extremely dangerous, addictive, and a gateway drug. Marijuana today is not marijuana of the 60s and the 70s. Rather than legalizing I would decriminalize. Same with other drugs.
I loved Reagan, but was extremely disappointed that he used the pressure of the federal government to force states to change their drinking age. That goes against everything he believed in but he did it for political purposes and I will never forgive him for that.
I am not anti-vaccine. Brett Weinstein and his wife Heather are lifelong Democrats, progressives, over 20 years as professors with 15 of those years at the most progressive college in America and they both have a PhD in evolutionary biology. they are not anti-vax, and have been vaccinated as much as anyone in the world, but they are anti-this vaccine. As am I based on a ton of research. I decline this vaccine based purely on informed dissent.
People are being brainwashed. You are being lied to by the government, the Democrats and the media.
Project veritas just showed a video where emergency room workers are talking about what BS the vaccine is. They are seeing tons of people with heart conditions that were perfectly healthy a few weeks ago but get the vaccine and have heart conditions. Often within days.
Roughly 1/3 of the medical community, doctors and nurses, are not vaccinated and are refusing to get vaccinated. These are front line experts dealing with Covid and people with the most first-hand knowledge of what’s going on.
Are you aware that in Australia they are letting babies die because of Covid? They won’t let parents travel from one region to another to have a surgery that would save the babies life because of their draconian Covid lockdowns. The world is falling into an extreme amount of authoritarianism and fascism over a virus that is simply not that deadly and has proven early treatment protocols.
And yes I do support individualism over the group. Have you read the American constitution? America is founded on individual rights as being paramount.
If you believe in the vaccine get the vaccine. Me not getting vaccinated isn’t going to endanger your life. In fact we are already seeing the vaccines fail. People are getting Covid even after being fully vaccinated. People are dying despite being fully vaccinated.
And yes if you drink or smoke your insurance premiums should cost more. If you drink lots of Coke and Pepsi and eat lots of junk food your insurance premium should be higher also. It’s why women pay more for health insurance, but less for life insurance. Women have more health problems, but men die earlier.
We need serious insurance reform and everyone should be guaranteed insurance but there are ways to do that more effectively and cheaper through the private sector than the government.
You should have to take a physical every year and depending on how much over your suggested BMI you are your insurance rates should reflect that. It’s why families with teenagers pay higher rates for car insurance. It’s why single people pay more per car insurance than married people. It’s common sense. This is why they hire accountants to create actuarial tables.
That being said there’s no reason it can’t still be affordable for everyone, and it Canby, but it takes the right incentives and the right regulatory environment, and the right cooperation between public and private sectors and the public in general.
Did I answer all of your questions? I think I covered everything.
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Seriously?
Sep 22, 2021, 9:26 AM
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I love the arrogance of people like you. You think because of some postings I make on Tiger net you think you know who I am, what my values are, what I think. My God it takes arrogance for that.
It’s not about valuing someone you freaking moron.
When we’re talking science and public policy you can’t make emotional decisions. You have to look at the data and look at the science.
You don’t destroy a country and the economy and peoples lives which are being destroyed far more by the government than Covid.
Have you not seen what’s going on in other parts of the world? They are letting babies die in Australia because they won’t let the family go from one state to another to have surgery because of draconian Covid lockdowns. There have been riots in Europe. People are reaching a breaking point because these governments including America are not following data and science and ruining peoples lives!
And how do I not value old people for simply stating the statistics?
My parents are 79 and 80. I’m 55. I know a lot of people over the age of 65. That doesn’t change the statistics for Covid. It doesn’t change the data and the science. My God people like you are dumb and controlled by your emotions.
You sound exactly like the far left lunatics that scream racism when people point out the true statistics regarding gun crime and the police and the black community. Facts are not racist.
Facts don’t care about your feelings! Neither does Covid! But we have to be smart about how we handle these things and follow science and data, not emotions!
This is why traditionally doctors have not treated family members especially surgeons. You must take the emotion out of the equation because emotions cloud your judgment and lead to bad decisions and mistakes.
You are an irrational person. I feel sorry for you and people like you!
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Re: Seriously?
Sep 22, 2021, 10:40 AM
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Well, I love how you preach statistics and non-emotional response then use an argument to appeal to my emotions regarding a baby that died in Australia because of border restrictions. Hilarious that you do t see the emotions in your own arguments.
Maybe we need to open our mexican border so any sick children can get american healthcare.
Also link us that story. Haven’t read it yet.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 3:39 PM
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That's code for T.E. is clueless.
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We must fire the coach 110 games over .500
Sep 20, 2021, 3:44 PM
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because he uses coach speak! Sure he's won two national championships, made the playoffs 6 straight years, won 10 games 10 straight years, but!!! But!!! He doesnt say what I want to hear!
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We must fire the coach 110 games over .500
Sep 20, 2021, 3:44 PM
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because he uses coach speak! Sure he's won two national championships, made the playoffs 6 straight years, won 10 games 10 straight years, but!!! But!!! He doesnt say what I want to hear!
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Re: We must fire the coach 110 games over .500
Sep 20, 2021, 6:00 PM
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Just because someone is successful doesn't mean they forgo the right of scrutiny. We pay this man $9M a year to put the "best is standard" on the field. Are we getting that?
Dabo had a playbook throughout his career on how to bring Clemson to the top. He played it to perfection. However, there is a much different playbook to stay at the top and right now, he has all the makings of failing.
1) He isn't as critical of himself, employees or players as he was coming up. 2) He's surrounding himself with loyalists and yes men. 3) He's hedging on the "total man" philosophy
And listen, I think Dabo has built a great CULTURE for Clemson...being a successful squad without being a football factory. But that doesn't mean you don't make changes and tweaks and innovations to stay at the top. No one is advocating for firing Dabo.
We are advocating for Dabo is show some b**** again. Where is the Dabo that took on Spurrier, or fired Spence or Steele. Where is the Dabo that demanded the best as opposed to make excuses for the best? That's what we want to see.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 3:47 PM
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Go pull for Coastal you bandwagon fan your not a fan of Clemson
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Mature response right here.***
Sep 20, 2021, 7:22 PM
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I was playing on The Hill back in the 70s!
Sep 22, 2021, 12:38 AM
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I went to Clemson football camp in 1978.
I was at the pep rally in Miami, the Orange Bowl parade, and the 1981 national championship game.
I graduated from Clemson in 1988 with a BS in finance.
Can you say all of those things? Maybe I should say if you can’t put up the same résumé that you’re not a fan. How would you like that?
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Beat me to it***
Sep 26, 2021, 6:42 PM
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I'm ok with that excuse when
Sep 20, 2021, 3:49 PM
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we're playing a team of equal talent, say UGA or Bama or OSU. If Dabo says "we tried this and that and they seem to have an answer for it, so we just had to take what they gave us". I'm fine with that. But when it's a team that you are a 28 point favorite against, that doesn't fly, especially when you and your OC follow it up with "we weren't prepared for what they were running." What the heck did you do in practice? Didn't you watch any film? What were you doing during the 2 hour "half time"?
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Dabo has won two national championships and has wins over top
Sep 20, 2021, 4:04 PM
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programs from all over the country. He didn’t get there by making excuses. He does however choose his words in a way where he does not publicly throw his players or coaches under the bus. That’s been one of his rules from day one. Throwing players and coaches under the bus publicly is a great way to lose your team but that’s exactly what you and these other so called fans want him to do. It ain’t gonna happen because Dabo’s a lot smarter than you.
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He’s making excuses now and has been for a while!
Sep 22, 2021, 12:41 AM
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When Mark Packer starts to question that is huge! Because he will defend Clemson and Dabo fiercely when needed, but he isn’t stupid either.
When people like that start grousing you better pay attention!
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Re: He’s making excuses now and has been for a while!
Sep 26, 2021, 6:44 PM
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Yea, Packer is a big defender of Dabo. But you can tell he is losing patience.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 5:08 PM
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Ummmmmmmm this same coach has won 2 national titles. Take you meds please
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I got two paragraphs in and couldn’t take it. My goodness the sense of entitlement.***
Sep 20, 2021, 5:27 PM
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lol
Sep 22, 2021, 12:47 AM
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No. I don’t feel entitled at all. I greatly appreciate what Dabo has done for my university. But the man is being paid $9 million a year to make hard choices and if you think it’s acceptable to have the 110th ranked offense when you have the fourth most talent you aren’t getting the job done!
Our offense Is currently the worst it has been at any time under Dabo in every category. You can fact check me on that! This is the worst offense we have had since Dabo became head coach. If you think that is acceptable you’re part of the problem.
I don’t expect us to win the national championship every year. I don’t expect us to be in the playoffs under the current format every year. I do, however, expect us to be dominant against some of the worst teams in the ACC. I expect our offense to be competitive.
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Re: lol
Sep 22, 2021, 8:40 AM
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That’s still entitled, even Lynyrd Skynyrd missed a note here and there.
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My God people like you are just delusional
Sep 22, 2021, 9:41 AM
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How is it entitled to expect a team with this much talent to be competitive against crappy teams?
Where do you people get this nonsense?
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110%er [5569]
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Remember
Sep 20, 2021, 5:34 PM
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"Worst coaching I have seen at Clemson since Tommy Bowden pulled Merriweather for an injured CJ Spiller at the end of the South Carolina game".
You make a great point with that statement. Careful though, talking like that may make some people angry...lol.
I was thinking the same thing watching us this weekend. Was trying to figure out when the last season was that our offense and offensive game-plan (s) were this bad. It was either under Tommy West, or T. Bowden with Rob Spence "mad scientist" calling the plays.
What a mess. Tony Elliot & Co. get paid a lot of money to not-suck. They have plenty of talented players to work with, so we know who's fault it's not.
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Varsity [237]
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You're right
Sep 22, 2021, 9:46 AM
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I'm pissed. How could they pull Reggie. He was getting 6 and 8 yards a play. He was running like a Mack truck on nitrous. OK. I'm better now.
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If you had your way we never would have hired Dabo
Sep 20, 2021, 6:30 PM
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Just sayin.
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Freshman [-99]
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That is such a dumb comment.
Sep 22, 2021, 12:54 AM
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Other than TDP name one athletic director that would’ve hired Dabo at that time to lead a power five program?
The vast overwhelming majority of Clemson fans thought it was a bad hire. Anyone that denies that is purveyors of revisionist history!
And I’m not calling for Dabo nor TE to be fired. Where are you getting that nonsense? Do you not think, however, that we need a new OL coach?
This is Dabo‘s 13th season as head coach and we still have OL issues despite better OL recruits. At what point do people not think coaching might be the problem? Actually we have more talent now at that position than any time under Dabo but the line has been getting worse!
You might want to look up the definition of insanity.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 6:34 PM
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So when we dominated Bama in the natty through the air it was because they were stacking the box and making the true freshman beat them with his arm…this is true definition of taking what the defense is giving you…
Look, I’m frustrated as the next but the staff just can’t come out and say our OL sucks…the play displays that clearly…
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Elite coaches don’t make excuses. Dabo is making excuses.
Sep 22, 2021, 12:58 AM
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It’s getting old.
And again you people are so freaking stupid. You want to point out the Alabama game. We lost to Pittsburgh which was a terrible team because we couldn’t get 1 yard on the ground you idiot!
We struggle running the ball against bad and mediocre teens. Elite teams dictate the game especially to weaker competition. We don’t do that! My god what you people know about football would not fill a tumble!
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Re: Elite coaches don’t make excuses. Dabo is making excuses.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:42 AM
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You realize we went on to shutout OSU in the semis and beat alabama for the national championship after losing to Pitt? Not helping your argument.
The statistical misunderstanding you have is that football is predictable, but it has the ability to be very random. The combination of all of the one on one matchups and specific situational plays results in a larger possibility of deviation from the norm. This is exactly why it’s so fun to watch. Look at the UGA game, UGA fumbled the ball and it bounced right back into his hands, a missed OPI, a loose punt wildly bounces into a UGA player and Clemson recovers. Those plays all have a major impact on the outcome of a 1 possession game and they were all completely random.
Just because we are better on paper doesn’t mean we deserve to win, still have to put in the effort and sometimes need a few lucky bounces. On paper we would’ve never won that 2019 title against Bama, and I’d also say that on paper we should’ve beaten LSU the next year.
Give it a rest and enjoy the ride we’re on, and if we are lucky we will get a few more chances to play for a title, but if not, that’s fine. 2016 and 2017 were particularly special because we all got to witness Clemson rise from mediocrity, and that’s been the most exciting part of this run so far.
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Oculus Spirit [82972]
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James Davis replaced Merriweather at end
Sep 20, 2021, 9:13 PM
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Of SC game in 2006.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 20, 2021, 9:34 PM
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What the #### is he is going to say....if the fans and the media knows what the problem is, a coach making millions of dollars a year damz sure knows what the problem is.
As much as some would like, he is not going go nuclear on the QB, O-Line and coaches just to satisfy the media and fans.
The ACC is weak and I guess he thinks the offense will find a pulse and see where it all goes in a few month.
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So if it doesn't work, then the players aren't good enough?***
Sep 21, 2021, 8:32 PM
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I have no idea what you are talking about…
Sep 21, 2021, 8:35 PM
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but the OP said…
“ “ we are taking what they’re giving us“
I’m sorry folks, but I have never heard the coach of an elite football team use that type of language. They dictated the game to the opponents.”
It took me 75 seconds to find where Nick Saban had used it twice, so I helped him out.
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Freshman [-99]
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Interesting. I doubt he has said that many times.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:07 AM
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Alabama almost always dictates what they want to do.
Since you were so good at searching go find where Nick Saban makes lame ### excuses like Dabo.
I highly doubt Saban said that when it came to playing teams Alabama was a huge favorite against.
Answer these questions honestly.
Do you not see problems with our offense?
Do you not see that we have not had a dominant OL since Danny Ford?
Do you not think there are serious issues at Clemson regarding the OL?
Do you think DJ looks anything like the QB he was last year?
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“If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.
Sep 22, 2021, 7:01 AM
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If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.”
There is a world of information out there. Learn how to get it. Learn how to fish.
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Freshman [-99]
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Answer my questions.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:43 AM
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You can’t deal in facts…
Sep 22, 2021, 10:29 AM
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so now you want to deal in subjectives? Dabo already told you we don’t stink… Deal with that.
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That's blasphemous
Sep 21, 2021, 10:41 PM
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Dumm ace
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 21, 2021, 11:42 PM
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JFC you’re an idiot.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 22, 2021, 12:39 AM
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Dabo is the best head coach we have ever had & Brent Venables is the best Defensive coordinator we’ve ever had!
These guys will get it figured out! 8 loses in 7 seasons isn’t exactly bad when 6 were against top 5 teams & 5 were against playoff teams. The others were Pittsburgh & Syracuse, of course we had a few close ones along the way but always seem to find a way!
Dabo will be laughing at the posts on Tigernet by seasons end knowing where we were before he came along! Pre-pay to - play....
Let’s go Tigers improve & hopefully continue to compete for the ACC championship most seasons!
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I hate to break it to you
Sep 22, 2021, 1:09 AM
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But staying on top is way harder than getting there!
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Put him on "ignore". Then you won't see anymore of Dabos exc***
Sep 22, 2021, 8:28 AM
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And we aren't even taking what they're giving us.
Sep 22, 2021, 8:56 AM
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They are giving us the middle of the field in the passing game. We aren't taking it.
PS - I think Dabo should be the coach until he wants to retire. My criticism is simply based on how our offense is regressing over the past few years, which I think Dabo can fix.
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Freshman [-99]
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I agree 100% with everything you wrote.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:48 AM
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I have never called for Dabo or Tony Elliot to be fired. But we do have someone we need to fire. We need a better OL staff. And we have been needing that for a very long time. These people aren’t getting it done.
Where Dabo frustrates me is the way he runs his mouth all the time and makes himself and Clemson look silly like last year regarding Ohio state.
And I love positive people I’m a positive person believe it or not but Dabo goes over the top. He does sound like a cheerleader often. He made some hard decisions regarding the staff years ago. He needs to make some now.
It’s a lot harder to stay on top than to get there.
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Re: Dabo‘s excuses are getting old, especially this
Sep 22, 2021, 10:41 AM
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Please keep your criticisms relevant to this years team. Up until 2020 we have always had at least a serviceable Oline. This offense (with the right QB) doesn’t need an elite Oline. Just a serviceable one. We are not a downhill running team. Never will be. Go pull for Wisconsin if you want that. You need to go back and look at our 3rd down percentages prior to 2020. We were always a great third down team no matter what the down and distance was. That’s because we had all the pieces needed to run our style of offense.
Well guess what we don't have those pieces and our Oline is not even serviceable. TL hid a lot of our deficiencies last season but now they are on full display with a QB that is very inexperienced and trying to grow. One thing I will agree agree with you on is we are soft this season. Now that was not the case prior to 2020. Last year is when I started to see the softness of the offense. It’s even worse this year. But you definitely need to check yourself when referring to 2016-2019 teams. We were elite and never have needed a smash mouth OL. This isn’t 1981 and we don’t run that kind of offense. But we sure do need to get back to at least serviceable.
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