Tiger Board Logo

Donor's Den General Leaderboards TNET coins™ POTD Hall of Fame Map FAQ
GIVE AN AWARD
Use your TNET coins™ to grant this post a special award!

W
50
Big Brain
90
Love it!
100
Cheers
100
Helpful
100
Made Me Smile
100
Great Idea!
150
Mind Blown
150
Caring
200
Flammable
200
Hear ye, hear ye
200
Bravo
250
Nom Nom Nom
250
Take My Coins
500
Ooo, Shiny!
700
Treasured Post!
1000

YOUR BALANCE
Defenseless Player
storage This topic has been archived - replies are not allowed.
Archives - Tiger Boards Archive
add New Topic
Replies: 15
| visibility 1,988

Defenseless Player


Oct 24, 2016, 11:00 PM

The reason why Gallman hit was not targeting is because he was not a "defenseless" player. It was forecible contact but he was a runner with an ability to protect himself. With hat being said Inthink all hits to the head should be ruled as targeting regardless. It'll make players learn how to tackle instead of just lunge at each other.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Watch the film


Oct 24, 2016, 11:19 PM

The other player was using his helmet aimed at Gallman's helmet as the primary means to stop him. There were no football moves here; strictly turning your body into a spear with your helmet as the point, and the opposing player's earhole as the "target".
Maybe technically, the lawyers can say this doesn't meet the definition of targeting since a running back typically isn't a defenseless player, but again, view the video. He was defenseless in this case because of the position he was in at the time and the flagrant way in which the defender came in helmet first. No way for Gallman to defend against that hence defenseless.

badge-donor-05yr.jpgmilitary_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Defenseless Player


Oct 24, 2016, 11:20 PM

Can we stop with these posts please? You, like 90% of the referees, clearly do not understand the targeting rule.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

^^^^^^^^^double this^^^^^^^^*****


Oct 24, 2016, 11:36 PM



military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Defenseless Player


Oct 24, 2016, 11:26 PM

Actually according to the rule book. There are two separate rules for targeting. The hit on Gallman in my opinion is a clear violation of
Rule 9-1-3

RULES

Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)

No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

Targeting and Initiating Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player (Rule 9-1-4)

No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, fist, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 2-27-14)

Note: Beginning in 2013, ejection from the game is a part of the penalty for violation of both Rule 9-1-3 and Rule 9-1-4.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Defenseless Player


Oct 25, 2016, 6:14 AM

Finally someone that has read the "official rule on targeting" and presented it here. The hit was a violation of rule 9-1-3.

badge-donor-10yr.jpgmilitary_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Defenseless Player


Oct 25, 2016, 6:26 AM

For the 195th time

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Defenseless Player


Oct 24, 2016, 11:30 PM

the crown of helmet can not be used. defenseless player or not.

badge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-74tiger.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

You CLEARLY do not understand the rule as it is written.


Oct 24, 2016, 11:32 PM

Why do you even bother to post ????


Seriously - why ????

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


A little harsh there pal. Settle down man, you come across


Oct 25, 2016, 1:14 AM

a way I'm going to assume you don't mean to.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

null


Thanks - but I came across exactly as intended. I don't get


Oct 25, 2016, 8:48 AM

why folks post stuff as if it is the Gospel when it is clearly incorrect.

Could be just trolling - sure - but this guy seems legit.


And it is about the 1000th post on this and it seems half of them are stating the rule incorrectly even though the rule has been C&P'd on here AT LEAST a dozen times.


The first section of the rule - which is a stand alone section - says if a player leads with the crown of the helmet - it is a foul.


Period.


Nothing more.


And one of our guys was KNOCKED OUT ! ! ! And their coach PRAISES it as a good thing he took away from the game. And the NCSU Admin CLARIFIES what the Coach "meant" instead of just calling him out as a ##### canoe.

I'm with epifunny from this morning - this needs to stay at the forefront if there has EVER been a thing that needs to stay at the forefront.



I came across just fine, thanks.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: Defenseless Player


Oct 24, 2016, 11:34 PM

Go and read the rule, a player doesn't need to be defenseless to get a targeting call in his favor. Leading with the crown of the helmet is a targeting foul, regardless if the player is defenseless or not or if the hit is to the head, neck, chest, crotch, etc... It doesn't mater, leading with he crown is targeting.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

There were like 100 threads about this.


Oct 24, 2016, 11:45 PM

What I wonder is the thought process that allows one to gain confidence or to believe what they know is right. Who/what are their sources? It's all about if one thinks that source is reliable.

For football, it can range from rule book to commentators. We sure as heck we cannot fully believe what commentators say. Not that they're wrong all the time, but if they're always right, they wouldn't have hired "rule experts" to refer to during a game.

Personally, I always read the rule book when I am not sure about something. Then, it's all about my interpretation of the rules.

That said, as people have already said it for like 100 times, it doesn't necessarily have to be a defenseless player on targeting.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

It wasn't targeting, it was spearing.***


Oct 24, 2016, 11:48 PM



2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-20yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Don't feed the coot troll


Oct 25, 2016, 1:39 AM

They are incapable of interpreting rules

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Yay, this argument again!***


Oct 25, 2016, 8:42 AM



2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

"IDIOT POSTER OF THE MONTH SO FAR...GWP-- You have won IPM Award for your failure to completely comprehend a clear post & then choose to attack someone who points out your ignorance. While you are not yet in the same No Class Catagory as deRoberts, ClemTiger117 & Tigerdug23, you are getting closer to the Sewer Dwellers." - coachmac


Replies: 15
| visibility 1,988
Archives - Tiger Boards Archive
add New Topic