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UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 24, 2019, 8:36 PM
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Is it crucial for the ACC that Virginia keeps this game close or even wins it? I think so. Of course, given that ND had a shot at the end to beat Georgia in Athens, ND will get graded on the SEC-sliding scale.
Mendenhall has the Cavaliers playing really good defense. Especially at CB where they have #34 Hall - probably will be the 1st CB taken when he comes out. The kid on the other side is also considered NFL bound. Book will have just a hard of a time with UVA as he did Georgia; especially if they threaten the Cavs with the run game. They also have #11 Charles Snowden 6'7 and 235 lbs OLB who will bat down passes or chase down Book a bunch.
How will the Domers react after the close loss last week?
Be good if the Cavs can pull it out as ND and their "partial membership" can't make the championship game.
**amendment** Notre Dame must play in the ACCCG if the champion of either division is .500 or only 1 game over .500.**
I'm also interested in seeing how App St. does with Coastal Carolina coming to Boone. Coastal has been spanking some teams here lately; including a Big 12 team. Both teams have wins over P5 schools this season. Will be a good one at Kidd-Brewer Stadium.
I hope someone tells Dabo something that puts him in some super - IDGAD mindset against the TarHoles! I wish the scoreboard could have all three digits lit up under Clemson with a big fat zero under N. Carolina. Hope he forgets he is friends with Mack for just a minute and wears the Heels out. Can't stand their cheating zrsenics!
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It’ll have no long or short term effect on the ACC,
Sep 24, 2019, 8:48 PM
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Each school in the conference or any conference stands on its own merits. When FSU was dominating the conference under Bobby Bowden they still won 3 national titles, and now that Clemson is doing the same the rest of the conference doesn’t effect Clemson.
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Re: It’ll have no long or short term effect on the ACC,
Sep 24, 2019, 8:54 PM
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Bowden only won 2 titles.
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Re: It’ll have no long or short term effect on the ACC,
Sep 24, 2019, 9:02 PM
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Forgot Jimbo won the last one.
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Re: It’ll have no long or short term effect on the ACC,
Sep 24, 2019, 9:02 PM
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I don't disagree with you rhettm But, FSU did so in the pre-BCS and then BCS era.
I am no conference "rah rah guy" but once people start getting Clemson fatigue and we aren't playing more than 1 ranked opponent a year; I can picture a scenario where someone could legit say: "who beat more quality competition"? And now, you don't make the top 4 or a chance to win a National Championship! It doesn't matter until it does in other words!
***note: some of the built in advantages the SECond has is over-hyped over-ranked teams playing and beating each other in close games and thus staying ranked. Then team X gets to add a plethora of ranked wins on their resume. Currently along with Clemson UVA is ranked. But, if this were the SECond Wake would be too! Maybe Pitt as well b/c they went "to Penn St" and barely lost. And then beat UCF! Nancy St. lost in Morgan town, WV in a contest that at one point was real close. By the end of the year I see a few ACC schools that have a chance of having 7-9 wins.
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Re: It’ll have no long or short term effect on the ACC,
Sep 24, 2019, 9:19 PM
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The ACC and SEC are the only conferences to have a team in the playoffs every year and the ACCC has 3 titles in the last 6 years. The only people who matter are the committee members and I can guarantee they don’t watch Paul F. Or care what he thinks or says, nor do they care what the talking heads on ESPN think. I’ve heard the same spin from the SEC for 40 years and I’m not buying it.
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Rest assured, Georgia doesn't want the 'Hoos
Sep 24, 2019, 9:25 PM
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Beating the Irish. On that count alone, come on Virginia! Face it, if UVA winning won't raise ACC perception, then by default, the Irish losing waters down the Dawgs accomplishment.
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Re: Rest assured, Georgia doesn't want the 'Hoos
Sep 24, 2019, 9:52 PM
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Beating the Irish. On that count alone, come on Virginia! Face it, if UVA winning won't raise ACC perception, then by default, the Irish losing waters down the Dawgs accomplishment.
Exactly what you said here Salty55! If nothing else it says, "Georgia your accomplishment wasn't all that b/c a so called weak ACC school beat them too"! A win means, they probably go through the rest of their schedule undefeated! And they will likely be the opponent in the ACCCG if all goes well for CU of course(be humble).
IDK - i have seen too many CFB playoff committee members talk about S.O.S and meaningful games to not be concerned a little bit. No, not ESPN or what SEC fans think. What Committee members say after the teams are picked in their interviews leads me to be concerned. But again, Clemson has proven itself beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point! The only scenario that could hurt it would be a loss to an unranked opponent or a stretch where we look super unimpressive vs. inferior competition added with some team from a perceived much better conference looking like world beaters! But, I don't see that happening. We typically start slow and finish strong! AT least that's how 16 and last year seemed to me.
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Re: It’ll have no long or short term effect on the ACC,
Sep 24, 2019, 9:30 PM
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The ACC and SEC are the only conferences to have a team in the playoffs every year and the ACCC has 3 titles in the last 6 years. The only people who matter are the committee members and I can guarantee they don’t watch Paul F. Or care what he thinks or says, nor do they care what the talking heads on ESPN think. I’ve heard the same spin from the SEC for 40 years and I’m not buying it.
Rhettm - again not going to dispute your view on the matter! Go Tigers!
I never considered Paul F when typing this. Or ESPN. But, when the interview committee members "WHO DO" have an influence on who is in or NOT, it does matter! Each one of them bring it up; but at this point Clemson by itself is enough regardless of what the rest of the ACC does. If another team were to step up and we maybe had some close wins where another team is blowing people out. But, not now, so it doesn't matter!
I got you loud and clear though! Just saying!
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 24, 2019, 9:41 PM
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Your amendment about Notre Dame is incorrect. Notre Dame is not allowed to play in the ACCCG under any circumstances. Don’t know where this idea comes from every year.
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 24, 2019, 9:45 PM
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Your amendment about Notre Dame is incorrect. Notre Dame is not allowed to play in the ACCCG under any circumstances. Don’t know where this idea comes from every year.
I was j/k 1972 Tiger! Saying it totally jokingly~
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 24, 2019, 10:46 PM
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A UVA win over ND will have no bearing on the rest of the ACC.
It may boost UVA a little.
But what it will do, since they already lost to UGA, is kill ND's playoff hopes and make UGA's win over ND look a lot less impressive since ND also lost to a "lowly" ACC school! 
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 25, 2019, 12:42 PM
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A UVA win over ND will have no bearing on the rest of the ACC. It may boost UVA a little. But what it will do, since they already lost to UGA, is kill ND's playoff hopes and make UGA's win over ND look a lot less impressive since ND also lost to a "lowly" ACC school! ">"> ST
Them losing to a "lowly ACC school" is exactly what I would love to see happen! The other extra benefit would be that it would take a lot of the luster off of Georgia beating ND at home. UVA would have to beat them in Indiana.
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UVA effectively ends ND's season this week...
Sep 24, 2019, 10:27 PM
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...and that's good for the ACC.
ND has no running game. They are not a good team.
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 25, 2019, 3:59 PM
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A UVA win would help the perception of the conference slightly at year end, but the pundits will mostly be saying that UVA simply caught ND at the right time. What has gone almost completely un-noticed is the Pitt win over #15 UCF. UCF had won 27 consecutive regular season games, and a 1-2 Pitt team beat them. UCF may not be great this year, but they dang sure would beat USuC, Vandy, Kentucky, Ark, Ole Miss, Miss State .... and maybe other SEC teams.
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 25, 2019, 4:11 PM
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I dont care who wins and I dont care about the ACC this year at this stage. I think ND wins by 13 points.
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM
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I'll definitely be pulling for the Cavs this weekend. I get the "who cares about the rest of the conference sentiment" but it's also nice to be able to respond to the "SEC! SEC! SEC!" chants that lesser schools yell because they play in a certain conference.
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Re: UVA @ Notre Dame . .. . how big for the ACC?
Sep 25, 2019, 4:40 PM
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I think where UVA win over ND helps is if 1) ND plays well with 9-10 wins the rest of the way and 2) UVA plays well the rest of the way. That would make the ACCCG with 2 highly ranked teams a la 2015 or 2017.
Also note - when committee discusses SOS, they usually talk Top 40 and not just AP Top 25. So the ACC could have a few teams fall inside that Top 40.
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