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TNET: Vegas odds on Clemson-NC State


Oct 14, 2018, 4:41 PM

 
Vegas odds on Clemson-NC State

An ACC showdown between Clemson and North Carolina State will feature two undefeated teams on Saturday. However, despite the Wolfpack having a perfect 5-0 recor Read Update »


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I love the Clemson Tigers and think we will win the Natty,


Oct 14, 2018, 5:04 PM

but that NC State line seems REALLY high to me.

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I’m calling it now!!! The Tigers will whip the Pups as bad as they did Wake


Oct 14, 2018, 9:22 PM

Nm

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Re: I love the Clemson Tigers and think we will win the Natty,


Oct 14, 2018, 10:30 PM

If it’s too good to be true, it’s usually a suckers bet, take clemson and give the points

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Where are the people whining about bias and us not getting any respect?***


Oct 14, 2018, 5:16 PM



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Re: Where are the people whining about bias and us not getting any respect?***


Oct 14, 2018, 5:19 PM

It's a trap.

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Re: TNET: Vegas odds on Clemson-NC State


Oct 14, 2018, 5:28 PM

I would NEVER bet against us...but man...

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I think we win


Oct 14, 2018, 5:47 PM

But I wouldn’t touch that line against a team who had showed they can throw the ball.

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Re: I think we win


Oct 14, 2018, 6:17 PM

If our D puts pressure on Finley we win big.....he cant throw on his back. RUn game and Tigers dominate. GO Tigers

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Finley gets rid of the ball really quick though. The Pack


Oct 15, 2018, 9:17 AM

aren't a big play team and they can't run the ball at all this year, but their offense is kind of like the New England Patriots and Finley is like a homeless man's Tom Brady. He's not very mobile but the Pack are near the very top of CFB in sack rate because Finley gets rid of the ball so quickly. They are going to put a lot of pressure on our back 7 to cover and to tackle in space.

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Re: I think we win


Oct 14, 2018, 6:18 PM

Agree. Thought the Syracuse line was high (25) but Wow!

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Again for the uninformed


Oct 14, 2018, 8:45 PM

The Cuse line was right until we had a QB quit, another one injured and had with the 3rd string guy. If it's known Chase is starting before the lines came out, it's 7 at best

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That's not true. Changing the QB doesn't swing a line 13


Oct 15, 2018, 9:23 AM

points. In 2014 when we played FSU in Tallahassee and Jameis Winston got suspended for the first half of that game the line moved about 3.5 to 4 points. I heard an interview with one of the oddsmakers on a sports radio show and he explained that they thought Jameis Winston was worth about 7 points for the entire over his replacement Sean Maguire (who wasn't too great) so they moved the line half of that to account for him missing a half. When it was later announced that Winston would miss the entire game the line moved again to where it was about 7 points lower than it opened. And this was the defending Hesiman Trophy winner we are talking about.

If the difference between Winston and Maguire was 7 points on the line, there's no way in #### the difference between any of our QBs was > 13.

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Re: Again for the uninformed


Oct 15, 2018, 10:22 AM

You do realize we were losing when TL went down right?

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Re: I think we win

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Oct 14, 2018, 6:54 PM

Line smine. They can throw? No problem. Figure on Venebles making adjustments to put 1) pressure on the QB 2)close down the long ball avenues.

NC State hasn't faced a defense as good as Clemson's this year so they are untested. Pass yards allowed Tigers are ranked 11th, NC St isn't even in the top 50. Overall Pass defense Clemson is better than NC State with average allowance is 155yds/game which is less yards allowed than last year even.

NC St have won 2 times since 2003.... The last was 2011 so as far as winning, Clemson's got this I believe. Most of the games have been closer for one reason or another.

As far as the scoring historically it will either be lopsided or it will be under the line.

The key will be Lawrence and the recievers tearing up NC St backfield, or the rushing tearing apart the defensive line. If Clemson does either of those through the first 45 minutes the only thing that will help the line is if NC State can put lots of points on the 3rd-string in the 4th quarter(not typical for this rivalry). Since Dabo has been playing the whole team that's where opposing teams in the regular season have been scoring more often.

I don't think it will be an A&M nailbiter, but NC State if it puts it's big boy pants on we could have a really great game with a little heartburn. ACC wise we would want it to be 'close' only so that the conference doesn't look too weak. But Tiger pride being what it is 18pts sounds just about right.

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Re: I think we win


Oct 15, 2018, 1:05 PM

I think the spread seems high, but not unreasonable if Lawrence is in the whole game. You can be sure that given any opportunity NCSU is going to be trying to take him out on every play. I just hope the refs have their flags ready, because he's going to get hit and he's going to get hit late.

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Re: TNET: Vegas odds on Clemson-NC State


Oct 14, 2018, 8:07 PM

State's coach all but accused Dabo of cheating last year. Keep your small children at home. This is our "no doubt" game this year. I cannot wait. Go Tigers!

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Re: TNET: Vegas odds on Clemson-NC State


Oct 14, 2018, 11:32 PM

I don't care about the laptops. I'm still salty about the dirty hit on Gallman in 2016. (How was that NOT targeting?)

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My Take


Oct 14, 2018, 8:12 PM

I've only bet on the Tigers twice the year. GT and WF. Both winners.

Dabo isn't one to run up the score or worry about the spread. WF just got out of hand because our 3s were better than their 1s.

NCSU has a ###### defense. We'll score in bunches. However, Finley is a good QB and given enough time, he'll put some points on the board.

Personally, I'm taking the Tigers -20. I think we kill them. I don't think it will be close.

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Re: My Take

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Oct 14, 2018, 8:13 PM

As much as we talk about USC, I can't believe TNET censors S H I T T Y.

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God as my witness, I don’t recall Trojan thread


Oct 14, 2018, 10:07 PM

of any particular interest

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Re: My Take


Oct 15, 2018, 10:24 AM

I never take Clemson to cover any spread just because I do not want to be upset about a 1 point w. Just my rule. I take them if the ML is close to -100 or in the +.

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Seems high.***

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Oct 14, 2018, 8:16 PM



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state has given us fits for the past few years

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Oct 14, 2018, 8:33 PM

no reason to think they wont this year ..for some reason cuse and state have our numbers lately and know how to play us...hope its a blow out in our favor..but i expect another nail biter

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Last season Dex didn't play


Oct 14, 2018, 8:42 PM

Didn't RRM also have to cover because of DB injuries ?

I'd have to rewatch the game,but didn't Trapp have also play and screw up ?



I know it'll sadden you for Clemson to jump out to a lead and dominate ,but you spend so much energy when we're behind in the first half,or the game is close,you deserve another bye week. Clemson covers the spread.

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Re: Last season Dex didn't play


Oct 14, 2018, 11:30 PM

Trapp played and covered exactly as well as you would expect a 5'7" DB to cover a 6'+ WR with a future NFL QB throwing to him.

RRM did play defense and had to change numbers to do it. Had a punt return TD.

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Oct 15, 2018, 10:26 AM

Trapp gave up a TD early but Finley throw all over us. That said our CBs are much more experienced this year. Hopefully Mullen is healthy.

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Seems low


Oct 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

45-17

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Re: TNET: Vegas odds on Clemson-NC State

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Oct 14, 2018, 11:26 PM

I believe Clemson will get the W, but if I were a betting man, I'd take the Pack and the points.

It's not quite Syracuse insane, but still a crazy spread. This one has come down to the last play the last two years and I expect another close one.

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Given our past games with this bunch, I think the Vegas


Oct 15, 2018, 12:32 AM

odds are way out of line. Pups can give us fits. Hope they are right, and I am willing to say, "Crow is a health food!"

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Are we on upset alert yet?***


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I think that


Oct 15, 2018, 10:17 AM

The linebackers will have to help in pass coverage in this game. Something that the Tigers rarely attempt. Very important for Finley to NOT get off to a good start in this game.

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