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TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 12:08 PM
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 12:22 PM
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I just read this on Yahoo Sports 5 minutes ago. I know this has to be a big burden off DeShaun's shoulders and the NFL's position on the matter. Can't wait to see/hear the details of the settlements, providing they are released to the general public.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 12:32 PM
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It does say that it's a confidential agreement, and I believe that the women can tell what they got, and if they do, (not knowing the Law) but if they do tell, I think they will be fined a serious amount of what they got. Confidential agreement I think means that the judge added like a gag order on the settlement terms, and that do mean the amount!!!
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 1:42 PM
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It is a confidential agreement.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 4:12 PM
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Well, these 20 lawsuits went the way of 97% of civil lawsuits in the USA ..... settlement. I wonder if the news outlets will update their bylines to say there are only 4 active lawsuits. I have a distinct feeling that they will continue to work in 24 lawsuits and the insinuation that filing a lawsuit at the county courthouse is the same as a verdict.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 12:23 PM
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They will probably have the details sealed, i bet the accusers got a mil each.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 1:15 PM
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My best guess is $200k apiece, and Buzbee will get at least one third of that.
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Like the story, we'll never know
Jun 21, 2022, 2:26 PM
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We'll never know either way.
We'll never know what happened other than some happy endings.
We'll never know what any of them got paid after the initial exchange.
We'll never know if it was better or worse than we thought.
That's why all I really want is for it to be over. I say pay them all until it's done; there are only 4 left & I know he said he wouldn't pay any of them but we're past that & I just want him to be able to move on, for them to heal & for us to get to watch him play.
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Re: Like the story, we'll never know
Jun 22, 2022, 9:14 AM
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That's why the Browns gave him so much money... so he could just pay them off and get back to work.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 2:03 PM
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I seriously doubt that it was a mil. It was most likely their salary Xs a few years. It is very hard to get a Mil out of someone you sue unless it's a wrongful death law suit. My back injury from work was strictly bc my employer refused to purchase the proper equipment to move around a keg of perc ( perc is a dry cleaning fluid that weighs 13 lbs per gallon) each keg weighed 40 something pound empty, and there were filled with 15 gallons of perc, total weight was 235 pounds. They make a two wheel cart that locks those kegs to the cart, and my employer refused to purchase me one of those carts, and tripped and fell on a 50 lb bag of starch when I was carrying the keg of perc to the lift gate at one of my stops.
I had a regular hand cart, but those kegs slipped off those really easy, and it was quicker for me to just carry the keg to the lift gate at a stop. When I fell, something in my back popped and I could move not a muscle in my body. I was taken to the hospital where they done an MRI, kept me drugged up for two days, and done back surgery to trim off the disc that was bulging out. Went back in the hospital for them to trim more disc off that bulged out within a month after first surgery.
After second surgery, I went into physical therapy with the hope of being able to walk standing straight up, and during physical therapy more disc popped out, and an ambulance pick me up at physical therapy, and back into the hospital for another back surgery where they fused L3,L4, and L5 together, and at that point, I was deem not fit for employment at any level. To be honest,
for the first 5-6 years I actually wonder why did they completely disable me from any type of work bc, for the first 5-6 year the pain was relived with pain meds, and once my body, and my brain got use to the pain meds, I could go about my days pretty normal without being affected by the pain meds as in feeling drugged or high, I felt normal for awhile.
But after 5-6 years, the back pain was back with a vengeance, and that's bc of L3, L4, and L5 being fused, it has caused a lot pressure at S1, and S1 is the disc between the L5 and the bone structure where the spinal structure connect to the bone structure below where the hips connect, and by that disc wearing out bc of the pressure from L3, 4, and 5 being fused, the pain in my lower back, both hips, and both legs is starting to be unbearable. Walking more than 50-100 at a time, the pain is so bad that I believe that before long, it will cause a heart attack, or a stroke. The worst part is
pain management tells me that they can't give me stronger pain meds that is available, is bc the government says that they can't bc of all the people that aren't suppose to have pain meds, they are overdosing and dying, and people that are in the very same condition that I'm in, we have to live out our lives of complete suffering bc people are buying illegal pain meds and killing their dumb A$$ with them, and they never needed to be on pain meds for any reason. That is the way our government deal with the old and crippled people in our country. The ones that are broken down from doing all the right thing and grow old, we have to suffer bc the younger people are doing the wrong thing and overdosing on illegal pain meds that they didn't need, and they shouldn't have been taking pain meds to simply get high on mega doses, that half of what they take and die, would allow me to live the rest of what life I have left in just a little less miserable pain and agony that I feel is going to cause a fatal heart attack, or stroke!!!
Oh, and I only got about $168K from an accident that could have been avoided if my employer hadn't refused to purchase a hand cart that was designed for moving full kegs of perc around safely!!!!
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Just curious,
Jun 21, 2022, 2:27 PM
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You were carrying 235 lbs without the assigned equipment, and you won a lawsuit?
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 22, 2022, 10:07 AM
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From previous reporting, I think the unusual and interesting point that's being missed is that the plaintiff is the one wanting the confidentiality agreement. Not Watson.
Usually other way around. Buzbee doesn't want how little these twenty got, known. They were brought in early and offered a small payday to jack up his chances at bigger $$ on the other four who he felt he had better chance on.
Even the late appearance of the one who went on air but didn't file a complaint, was in my opinion at set up by Buzbee to use when time came to nudge the case. I'll bet she got paid something by Buzbee for doing it.
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OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 12:31 PM
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Can't believe it...
??????????
Don't know how I should feel about DW4 now?...
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 12:34 PM
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Busbee will be chasing ambulances again after this is over. However, I am glad DW was held accountable even though some of the cases may have been consensual.
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Again, nothing was done without the
Jun 21, 2022, 2:33 PM
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allowance of any of the females. That would be the crime of sexual assault and Deshaun would have been indicted. As I'm sure you know, two grand juries fully investigated all details and found no evidence of a crime.
Regardless of how one may feel about "happy endings" and whatnot, there was no non-consentual activity, otherwise the only orange uniform Deshaun would be wearing would be his prison garb.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 1:33 PM
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Don’t judge DW4 just because he settled. It was probably strictly a business decision to put it all behind him and get on with his life. It doesn’t prove right or wrong.
Remember: He was completely acquitted in criminal lawsuits of these charges, which is way more important! This is civil which means the plaintiffs only have to convince a jury that they’re right on 51% or more, whatever that really means. If you have a good, articulate lawyer with the gift for gab, even OJ Simpson would get off (oh, he did, didn’t he???).
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 1:56 PM
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Why pay if your innocent? I do not understand that? You said there were no criminal charges so again why pay anything. I guess that’s why if he is not guilty and pays them off then these type cases could keep happening. Screwed up system we have.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 2:33 PM
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He likely paid them off to keep some very embarrassing details from coming out in court - and then paying them off.
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Like what?
Jun 21, 2022, 2:36 PM
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I believe all the details have already been released in depositions.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 2:51 PM
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Maybe because they could drag the civil suits out for years and the nfl would probably suspend him until they are settled?
Better to write a check and make them go away now rather than a couple years from now.
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LEGAL BILLS. Civil system is legalized extortion
Jun 21, 2022, 2:56 PM
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Plus, wack job, runaway juries are always a risk.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 4:20 PM
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Many lawsuits are settled everyday even if a party to the proceedings feels their case has strong legal merit. The cost $$$ to continue a lengthy legal proceeding has to be a factor in the decision-making process of both the plaintiff and defendant in most situations. Companies settle every day with plaintiffs and consider it a projectible cost of business.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 10:31 PM
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This happens all the time in high profile cases, especially with DW's publicized guaranteed pay day. No way these leeches weren't going to run him through the wringer. Even if he did win, the lawyer fees would be tremendous.
Settling these cases does not admit to wrong doing. It's simply a business decision.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 22, 2022, 2:00 PM
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It CAN be a business decision, but it is not guaranteed to be one. It also does not mean he's guilty, but it also doesn't mean he's innocent.
Defendants don't always settle because they "want it behind them". They often settle because they know that the accuser likely would rather take a guaranteed 20-50% of what they're asking for instead of risking it all by going to trial. Corporations do it all the time whether it's for opioids or for wildfires, the corporations are 100% guilty but they know that the accusers would rather have a few million each now instead of $20M+ in 3-5 years
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Re: OMG....
Jun 22, 2022, 2:40 PM
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with our screwed-up legal system the way it is; if you get sued; you are going to pay something! just the way it is.
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Because paying them allows him to make more money than him
Jun 23, 2022, 1:08 AM
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not paying and not being able to play. What he will pay total is a fraction of what he is worth, and the burden is lifted, gone.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 21, 2022, 10:44 PM
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At least he was found guilty in criminal court. Not sure if he ever paid a dime but at least he was convicted somewhere.
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Re: OMG....
Jun 22, 2022, 12:11 PM
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Not convicted in criminal court. Grand juries found him not guilty twice for 10 cases.
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Re: OMG....
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Acquitted implies he was criminally charged and a jury found him innocent. That didn't happen.
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Finally, a happy ending***
Jun 21, 2022, 12:34 PM
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Re: Finally, a happy ending***
Jun 21, 2022, 1:59 PM
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Underrated poast
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WHY do we have a CLEMSON PROS BOARD?***
Jun 21, 2022, 12:38 PM
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Evidently, Watson was not the only one with a guaranteed payday.***
Jun 21, 2022, 1:12 PM
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If these hags got a million a piece
Jun 21, 2022, 1:42 PM
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they were overpaid. I say this as a woman commenting on this. By no means would I downplay rape or sexual assault if he had done that. BUT if he didn’t and it was just sexual harassment 200k would be great and if it was a million OMG I would be asking when is our next appointment Deshaun? Women are sexually harassed every day and get paid nothing. I don’t buy being traumatized enough to go after him if there was no sexual assault. Any woman who advertises massages on instagram is not innocent. I’m not saying Deshaun didn’t act inappropriately but they should be use to that. This client had a lot of money and they had to see dollar signs when they hooked up with the attorney in Texas. They are in the wrong profession if they are that sensitive. Maybe get a job at massage envy?????
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Wow, and I thought EYE had a low opinion of Instagram!
Jun 21, 2022, 4:59 PM
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"ANY woman who advertises massages on Instagram is not innocent?"
Shirley there must be at least ONE?
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Re: Wow, and I thought EYE had a low opinion of Instagram!
Jun 21, 2022, 5:11 PM
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I doubt it. They have to do or have something extra to get attention on instagram if they are competing with all these others “masseuse’s” for business. Shirley they aren’t that naive.
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Re: Wow, and I thought EYE had a low opinion of Instagram!
Jun 22, 2022, 2:01 PM
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These women didn't have to do anything extra to stand out. DW got 66 of them in 18 months, practically hired every single one he saw.
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Good point
Jun 21, 2022, 6:21 PM
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I hear you on assault, but as of last week he & his lawyers are saying these specific acts of happy endings were legal BECAUSE they were paid for (or something like that).
Bottom line, IF he had recorded these instead of making sure there was no evidence & an NDA from the Houston office in each individual case, we'd KNOW it was just a few dozen happy endings & we'd have a paper trail of the payments to PROVE it was legal is what it sounds like.
Instead, now he's paying again & we'll simply never know what happened & it's frustrating for this entire group of women, Deshaun himself, Clemson nation, & the NFL.
I hate it all, but paying for it now means it should be over soon, at least.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 1:57 PM
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Doesn't clear much up in the court of public opinion. Watson looks guilty and the women look as if they were only after a big payday, not justice.
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They've been jerking this thing around for long enough
Jun 21, 2022, 2:17 PM
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It's about time it came to an end.
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Had no idea these lawsuits would reach
Jun 21, 2022, 2:32 PM
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a climax so quickly.
Hope the settlements weren't premature.
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It’s as if he was ready to explode from all the
Jun 21, 2022, 3:35 PM
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Probing. His best bet was to shoot them a load of cash to finish them off.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson settles 20 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct
Jun 21, 2022, 2:32 PM
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If Deshaun Watson hadn't been a high paid NFL QB, I would bet my life that those massage pallor hoars would have never admitted that men say, or do ugly things while they are putting there hands all over a mans body. The last thing they would want their friends, and family knowing that they gladly worked a job having to deal with poor men abuse daily, bc most of their customers are poor, but the pay is good for the women doing it bc, the price is usually $100-$150 bucks for a half hour for what servies the women want to sell, and the owner of the business usually gets 50 to 60% of what the women make to cover building, and equipment cost. The women will usually buy their own supplies bc they don't like what the business owner will afford them!!!
As I said, If DW4 hadn't been a high paid NFL QB, there would have never been a peep about this story in the news, those women deal with advances from men everyday they go there to work, and the public never hears a sound about it!!!
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But it was legal
Jun 21, 2022, 6:14 PM
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I see your point, but Deshaun & his lawyers are insisting the happy endings were strictly legal outright; wouldn't their ploy for money & only money go out the window IF he had evidence?
In other words, if it HAD been recorded rather than explicitly prevented & each of them having to sign the NDA from the Houston office, he could prove what acts were happening & he'd have receipts or some kind of money trail & if what his lawyer said is accurate we'd be done with this whole thing.
I hate that we'll never know, that's what really bugs. Next time record your happy endings I guess.
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DW4 made a very foolish decision not to settle these...
Jun 21, 2022, 3:47 PM
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cases last year. Instead, he refused confidentiality and insisted the dollar amounts be made public. Buzbee's clients turned that down. Now DW4 comes back to the table on their terms after he's been shredded almost to the point of no recovery.
That fact this has gone on so long is squarely on DW4 and his attorney Rusty Hardin. They blew an opportunity the put this in the rear-view mirror early. Instead, they got greedy and here we are today.
Maybe now he won't be suspended the entire season. We'll see.
A person has to realize once they sign a $160 million contract, they become a giant target. When you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, just go ahead and pay a few pennies to make it go away early.
None of these cases would have been made public if DW4 and Hardin hadn't blundered and fumbled this completely.
Flame away. Just my 2 cents.
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yeah, particularly when you had your hand in as many
Jun 21, 2022, 6:06 PM
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cookie jars as he did
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Re: yeah, particularly when you had your hand in as many
Jun 22, 2022, 8:56 AM
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I don't think it was his hand that was getting slapped.
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It's even more frustrating
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I don't know if it's accurate or not, but Deshaun's lawyer made it sound like his happy endings were otherwise completely legal.
I don't know how that works, & while I understand him & Houston making sure there was never any evidence, it's frustrating that now we're still stuck.
Look, if it was legal AND he had evidence of the happy endings, maybe he'd be in the clear?
Instead, not having any evidence means he has to finally settle, & we'll still never know what happened---that's why I really just want to get this over with and move on no matter the financial cost.
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I'll be thrilled if that means it's over soon.
Jun 21, 2022, 6:02 PM
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Look, since the happy endings are now considered technically legal by Deshaun's lawyer, frankly I wish it HAD been recorded so we could know that's all that happened & he could finally move on. If it's legal, not having evidence is now a problem & it's all such a mess.
We'll never know what happened other than that so I say pay them all & let's get this over with so we can all start to move on.
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As a part of the settlement, does DW4 have to come
Jun 22, 2022, 7:21 AM
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clean and confess anything?
IF (big IF) he did it, I'm sure it would feel good to get that load off his chest.
Either way, glad to see that this story has a happy ending.
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Regardless of what DW4's lawyer says...
Jun 22, 2022, 10:43 AM
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They don't want the settlements to be made public any more than the plaintiffs.
It'd be setting a public price tag for anyone else considering a claim.
That was public posturing meant to make him look less likely to be guilty of what the plaintiffs claimed.
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Why wouldn't he?
Jun 22, 2022, 2:07 PM
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After last week, his lawyer made it sound like the bottom line was not only is there no evidence but he did nothing wrong & that happy endings are legal for him to pay people for in Texas.
I don't get how that works to be honest, but still, if it's true and he HAD videotaped all of these encounters it would have been better for him now to show the tapes so we could see it was JUST hand stuff & he paid them for it with a paper trail to show it was legal.
If that's all true, I wish he would come out and say what happened like you asked. He'd feel better, we'd feel better, & my mom would still love him (as long as she didn't have to watch the tapes!).
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