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TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 4, 2021, 10:51 AM
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Re: TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 4, 2021, 11:00 AM
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What rule or law is stopping high school kids, or anyone at any age, from signing NIL deals? I mean, if the Supreme Court thinks college kids can make money, then why not anyone?
And age doesn't matter, kids have been making money for years....
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Re: TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 4, 2021, 4:33 PM
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The curious element of high school and college sports to me is that most of these star athletes/kids have been pampered and indulged by every coach since 8 years old. And yet, most are the first to raise their hands to tell you how tough they had it. Of course Arch Manning was born with a platinum spoon, although his father Cooper was the Manning kid who received the least amount of star treatment.
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somebody explain to me how a coach keeps a young man's
Jul 4, 2021, 11:02 AM
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head focused on what's best for the college team when he is the center of millions in revenue? Forget the discipline and dynamics of the guys who blocks defenders for this guy, yet has no CFB income?
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It will probably make it easier on NFL front offices
Jul 4, 2021, 11:28 AM
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The true character of these guys is going to come out. A lot of them will likely be able to handle it, but some certainly will not.
I think Arch Manning has the support system around him to handle all of this. It won't be anything new for the Manning family.
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My point was not the concern of the indiviudal
Jul 4, 2021, 11:41 AM
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I am sure Arch will be fine. There will be any college athletes that do just fine. The teams will not. We've take another huge step in making sure the "I" is good! All about "me"!
This will wreck team cohesion.
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The more mature individuals should be able to
Jul 4, 2021, 1:16 PM
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handle that as well.
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Re: The more mature individuals should be able to
Jul 6, 2021, 10:57 AM
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The kids not making much if any NIL money will be the ones that won't be able to handle it. This is just a bad idea.
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We've already done that
Jul 5, 2021, 1:53 PM
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We've already done that, though?
It's not like Trevor Lawrence, who was our QB just last season, wasn't already rich or projected to make millions & had already capitalized on that as well.
Yet we kept his head PRETTY disciplined, if you ask me, right?
I think many people are being extra cynical & pessimistic about the worst-case scenarios possible, but here's my whole thing; those situations seem vastly more likely to happen anywhere but Clemson, or certainly not as often here.
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Wonder if...
Jul 4, 2021, 11:48 AM
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We see any future collegiate stars retire after college that make that kind of money?
I mean...offhand it may sound crazy but if you make $5-$10 million a year for 3 years (or heck let's just say over the course of your college career which could be true for the top echelon of student athletes), does entering the NFL become less attractive for some folks?
Kids nowadays have a MAJOR advantage with the information at their fingertips and the colleges these student athletes are going to attend are most likely going to offer some sort of financial advisement is my guess.
What do y'all think? IMO I could totally see it happening sort of like how some players are retiring earlier from the NFL to do other things.
What a time to live in.
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Re: Wonder if...
Jul 4, 2021, 2:06 PM
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Perhaps there’s a silver lining. Could prevent kids from jumping ship early to chase the money. Maybe some will be more inclined to spend another year in college and finish their degrees.
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My thoughts exactly - if you stay in college 4 years and
Jul 4, 2021, 11:04 PM
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make 10 million a year, why go to the NFL and get your brains bashed around? Sign a longterm contract with some big company with upfront money your senior year to add to your 40 million and sock it to them by disappearing to your private island.
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Players have retired without money...
Jul 5, 2021, 1:57 PM
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I think that's the whole point, right?
We've seen superstars retire from the sport after a big college career.
Justyn Ross, while I still think he'll be a huge star, could have played his last game; what if instead he had already made good money after helping win that national title his freshman year?
Or Tajh Boyd who went pro but not for long, or any other guy who gets hurt IN college & therefore HAVE to "retire?" Thankfully that last part WE haven't seen much of here at Clemson, but the list of guys who have is horrific & tragic.
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Re: TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 4, 2021, 1:02 PM
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All I know is just like quarterbacks in the NFL these guys better be spreading the wealth because the OL guys are not gonna be making money, but we all know if they don’t do their job the QB is going to get crushed!
If I was a QB I would say you have to give some money to my OL and find a way to use them in your marketing.
The culture Dabo has, the walk on‘s, the back ups, they’re treated just like the starters. But when suddenly you have a few people making a ton of money with the rest making little to nothing you’re gonna have problems in the locker room.
Because unlike in the real world and with real capitalism, everyone has an equal opportunity to make money, and there’s more opportunity today than ever, but few people work hard or smart enough to be successful. College football is different because everyone is contributing to the success and busting their ###, but only a handful are going to make big money.
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^^^This^^^
Jul 4, 2021, 3:29 PM
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I agree that the offensive skill players need to promote their linemen. Offensive linemen and snap holders are the unsung heroes of the game.
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Re: TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 4, 2021, 11:17 PM
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I'm confused.
College football is different than the real world because everyone works together for common success but in the real world they don't?
What do companies do then? The people at Google? Microsoft? Your local insurance agency? Don't they work on a team for common success? I mean the world is not made up of singular entrepreneurs working for themselves.
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If so, put a fork in college football because it'll be done.***
Jul 4, 2021, 1:39 PM
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Re: If so, put a fork in college football because it'll be done.***
Jul 4, 2021, 1:45 PM
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it opens the door for so much corruption, I have not been paying much attention, but am astounded by how quickly this happened, and how potentially devastating it could be to this sport. The NFL might as well let the kids go pro out of HS instead, so CFB can retain some integrity.
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Re: If so, put a fork in college football because it'll be done.***
Jul 4, 2021, 2:02 PM
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College education just dropped a notch in priorities!!
Jul 4, 2021, 2:26 PM
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Used to be college education, NFL then money/income. Now priorities just moved to first money/income, 2nd NFL and then college education. if I have time and can't make a NFL team or just to lazy too because I had all my bills paid and made $500k in 5yrs of college I might focus on coursework? I only took the minimum of 6hrs per semester so I have a ways to go!
Thank you NCAA for creating the biggest clustF* in the history of college sports. It could have been managed sooo much better and it's purely free market.
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Re: College education just dropped a notch in priorities!!
Jul 4, 2021, 7:48 PM
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Yes,I tend to agree. I realize colleges are making tons of money off of the athlete,but they are STUDENT ATHLETES! The initial idea was play for us and recieve a free education.The whole idea has turned around with the attitudes of today. So many athletes think they are way better than they actually are also.I have lost my zest for the game lately.I don't see how this makes it
any better.More greed and moneylust.Money IS the root of all evil.We shall see.
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Entitlement?
Jul 6, 2021, 11:49 AM
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I guess I just don't understand the idea that this is ONLY about entitlement?
First things first, the NIL stuff is a basic rights issue; it should have been dealt with ages ago, & now we have to deal with it all at once in a world that includes social media. Bottom line, this change was inevitable, always was, & now we have to deal with it.
But I have a really hard time believing the vast majority of Clemson players, for example, will only be about the money. After all, we spent millions on them as a school; the players can't take home a putt-putt course & arcade games but they sure can enjoy them & choose a place like Clemson because of it.
Now ALL the money isn't going in the desk-jocky's pockets, so to speak, like it has forever.
Plus, you know, the NCAA Football video game.
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Well, if Darren Rovell says it ...
Jul 4, 2021, 3:06 PM
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wait, who?
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Wonder if Big Market ACC Schools Will Be Helped?
Jul 4, 2021, 5:26 PM
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It seems to me that Syracuse, Boston College and Pitt would have more advertising money to go around with their large populations.
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They might have large populations but they dont have large
Jul 4, 2021, 10:28 PM
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passionate followings. A lot of people in those markets dont give a crap. The % of people that really care about CFB in Alabama is probably 20x higher than the state of NY.
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NOTHING GOOD WILL COME OF THIS …..
Jul 4, 2021, 10:20 PM
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This will radically change the CULTURE of college sports….and NOT for the better!!!!
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Re: TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 4, 2021, 11:18 PM
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This will affect the scholarship funds and will be bad for a bunch of other sports
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Re: TNET: Darren Rovell thinks Arch Manning could make $10 million as college freshman
Jul 5, 2021, 1:59 PM
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How?
None of this money is being taken OUT of any scholarship funds anywhere?
Frankly it seems like it will only raise potential revenues (not to mention the expanded playoff), know what I mean?
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It's a near-perfect scenario that Arch Manning is...
Jul 5, 2021, 12:51 AM
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a 2022 recruit, coming in one year after NIL is effective. He and his handlers can learn from what happens this year and completely blow open the vault from 2022-2024. No doubt he will make far more than the average NFL salary.
I've got my popcorn out and will be watching. (Especially if he becomes a Clemson Tiger).
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The only thing this kid has done right now is be born with a
Jul 5, 2021, 8:17 AM
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famous football QB name. Until he actually plays big league college football, who knows how much money this kid may make off is NIL. I really wonder where all this money will come from - product endorsements? social media influencer??
Until it happens, I'm not completely sold that this NIL stuff is going to generate $ millions for individual kids - even the star athletes. They can't sell their NIL incorporating their college/team logos so in my mind that limits a lot of what people want to buy.
Overall, I'm taking the wait and see approach but the combination of NIL, agents, and a penalty free transfer portal is sure pointing to major changes in college football that can be abused and ruin the game for many of us fans. Somewhere in the coming NIL feeding frenzy I'm afraid the idea of getting a college education/degree will be of less concern than maximizing ones NIL and NFL aspirations. I really think it was a mistake not to somehow tie the rules around NIL to the academic side of this equation...
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Seems clear the courts would nix the idea of linking...
Jul 5, 2021, 10:51 AM
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academic success to NIL. That would very likely be another 9-0 decision.
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Maybe... but if the idiots at the NCAA had taken on
Jul 5, 2021, 1:48 PM
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reasonable player compensation 6 years ago (before it got to the point of State legislatures and courts getting involved) they could have easily linked compensation to academics and probably avoid the mess this is going to become. But that ship has sailed...
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Totally agree
Jul 5, 2021, 2:09 PM
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I made that point immediately after the Supreme Court decision was announced.
The problem is the NCAA is more of a servant organization to the Power 5 conferences than it is a "governing body".
The gravy train for players is just getting started. It won't stop at NIL. Court cases are coming that will kill the notion of limiting compensation in (nearly) any way.
The only way to stop this from happening is legislation from Congress putting in place a structure with rules and limits. I don't think either party has much interest in doing so.
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headlines like this shouldn't be posted
Jul 5, 2021, 9:30 AM
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part of the problem is giving attention to it, like everything else
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I say that about the Finebaum tweets...but they do drive the clicks***
Jul 5, 2021, 9:56 AM
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TigerNet is elite at dramatic headlines
Jul 6, 2021, 11:50 AM
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Dramatic headlines create clicks.
Nobody does that better than Tigernet. It's kinda brilliant, really.
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