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good grief.....is he hanging out with Ricky Williams??
Jun 15, 2018, 1:26 AM
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if he winds up getting suspended for substance abuse again, the millions he'll have sacrificed because of a little shortage of will power is mind-boggling....not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
I'm hoping things break Martavis' way for a change.
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I'm sorry, but if true...
Jun 15, 2018, 1:39 AM
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...this guy has proven himself to have an addiction that he can't beat and will be booted out of the league. We all wanted him to succeed, pulled for him through his issues while in Pittsburgh, hoped for him after his trade to Oakland, but my goodness. Again, if true, he is done.
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Re: I'm sorry, but if true...
Jun 15, 2018, 3:50 AM
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IMO it is not addictive. He enjoys it. He is not addicted imo. He is just blowing it.
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If you cant stop using for a couple of years
Jun 15, 2018, 5:54 AM
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when your career requires it and it will get you fired, then you are an addict.
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I thunk he is just irresposible.
Jun 15, 2018, 6:13 AM
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He thought he could pull it off. He chose to do something that he really wanted to do. I don't think weed I addictive for anyone. I have known a lot of people that have failed important drug tests just being irresponsible fools.
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Re: I thunk he is just irresposible.
Jun 15, 2018, 7:40 AM
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I think that saying weed is not addictive is misleading. While may not chemically addictive like other drugs it is possible to get addicted to the chemicals that the body may produce when taking the drug.
People get addicted to plenty of activities that require no ingestion, but the addiction comes from the body's own reaction to the activity.
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lots of people smoke pot every day
Jun 15, 2018, 7:55 AM
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but never get addicted...so they say. Some people eat three healthy meals a day, others crave sugar and eat a whole bag of donuts once they start.
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Re: I thunk he is just irresposible.
Jun 15, 2018, 7:54 AM
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I use to wake up every morning with the soul goal of finding weed and getting high. So yes it is addicting. I have been addicted. I rarely smoke at all anymore now that I have kids and it does not make me feel good anymore but it use to be my life pretty much.
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Re: I thunk he is just irresposible.
Jun 15, 2018, 8:13 AM
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Everybody has to sleep in the bed they made for them selves!!!
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You just wanted to get stoned.
Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM
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It's not physically addictive. I smoked for a couple decades too. It's simple not to smoke when you have something you need to deal with. Sure, would you rather smoke? Yeah you enjoyed it. It's inconvenience not to. Addiction is why he did it? Yeah...that is laughable.
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Is that not a form of addiction? People get addicted to all
Jun 15, 2018, 12:22 PM
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kinds of unhealthy activities that have nothing to do with drugs or alcohol.
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Re: You just wanted to get stoned.
Jun 15, 2018, 7:19 PM
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I disagree that it is not physically addictive. No you do not withdrawal like some pain pills or something but it does become addicting. Maybe it is all in somebody's head but people can get addicted to anything. I'm not saying anything is wrong with weed and if you can control it and live your life smoking that is fine. I'm not saying it is an excuse for him but I would think being addicted to any drug is an excuse as my sister is a drug addict. Weed can be just as bad as any drug if you let it be is all I am saying. If you spend all your money on it and feel like it is the most important thing that is addiction. You can be addicted to working out, watching tv, or playing video games.
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When he is living his punishment.*****
Jun 15, 2018, 11:34 AM
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the definition of addiction is continued use despite causing harm
Jun 15, 2018, 8:00 AM
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You be the judge of whether this fits.
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Yeah there are diffirent definitions of addiction.
Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM
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With that extremely loose definition, we are all serious addicts to many things.
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Re: Yeah there are diffirent definitions of addiction.
Jun 15, 2018, 10:40 AM
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That “extremely loose” definition is much closer to the true definition of addiction than what you’re implying. You’re conflating physical dependence and addiction when they are, in fact, two different things.
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No it is a loose definition. Very loose.
Jun 15, 2018, 11:31 AM
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I realize there are mental addictions as well. Most of the time that is just BS. Kind of like when a rich star athlete nails tons of chicks and cheats on his wife. The press gets after him, so now he is a sex addict.
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No, it’s the literal definition.
Jun 15, 2018, 12:06 PM
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You can read how wrong you are here: https://www.asam.org/resources/definition-of-addiction
And regardless of your feelings and/or anecdotes addiction as a result of psychological dependency is a very real thing. You’re so very wrong here.
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Good effort moron.
Jun 16, 2018, 7:10 AM
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I know the realities better that you do.
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Re: Good effort moron.
Jun 16, 2018, 11:22 AM
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You're getting skewered here. Just quit replying.
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Look at your pulse moron.
Jun 17, 2018, 7:10 AM
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I know this issue as well as anyone who posts here. Pipe down moron. Anyone who thinks the "addiction" to weed was so strong that Martavis didn't have an option is an idiot. He was overcome by his addiction to weed? That is laughably idiotic.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 1:45 AM
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It’s obvious this young man has a serious addiction and has yet to admit it to himself. Let’s hope he gets help before the league bans him for life. Ego has destroyed millions of lives lets pray he’s not added to the list.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 2:24 AM
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I honestly don't know what his deal is. I'll admit to partaking in my fair share of pot (at one point, you probably could have even labeled me as a "stoner"), but at the same time, I never felt like I just HAD to have it, at the expense of other important things in my life. There's something going on mentally for him to keep doing this (if true). Pot isn't even physically addictive, so he just needs to get his mind right.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 2:51 AM
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I honestly think it’s ego, he just doesn’t think the rules apply to him. Just look at the way he criticizes the coaches in Pittsburgh last year, instead of being thankful they didn’t cut him during his suspension. No team is going to make him a big part of their game plan because they can’t count on him being part of the team.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 5:36 AM
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Same here, I used the weed for more than 25 years everyday of my life. But after my disabling back injury, I was told that I couldn't be in pain management and smoke weed. I quit bc I had no other choice, and I'm ok with that bc there is no way that pot could take the pain away from my back.
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I think some of you are mistaken about MB's problem
Jun 15, 2018, 1:49 PM
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Him using pot is an effect - it's not the cause of his problem. I would guess he has some mental, or emotional issues that are causing him to cope by using marijuana. So it's probably not as simple to just quit smoking for him. He needs to treat the cause.
Having said that, I don't think smoking pot is a big deal at all. I have smoked quite a few times in my 42 years but it's not my cup of tea. Drinking alcohol, taking opiods, or benzos are MUCH more dangerous than taking a puff or two. It's really silly how our society treats marijuana and it's users.
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That is disappointing.. really hope it's not true***
Jun 15, 2018, 3:22 AM
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 5:28 AM
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If this is true, and he has indeed failed the drug test, it's his bed, he made it, and now he will be the one that has to sleep in it, hard or soft. The NFL will give him what they believe he deserves, and that will be the end of him playing in the NFL. Oh well, I do hope that all other Tigers entering or in the NFL will see that the NFL is serious about their drug use policies. I do know that if Martavis has indeed failed the drug test, he doesn't deserve and pity from not a single Tiger fan or player bc he knew what was at risk if he took that risk. I'm personally moving on as an X fan of Martavis Bryant if this news is true. We have many other Tigers in the NFL that deserves our backing and to be a fan of. Gooo Tigersss that will remain in the NFL after Martavis is long gone!!!
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 7:20 AM
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Wow that’s pretty cold. Can you not just be a fan of all of them? Lol.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 5:35 AM
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Guess we’ll be seeing him in the XFL. Maybe he and Jonny Football will team up.
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He was a problem since he got on campus. Dabo tried
Jun 15, 2018, 7:59 AM
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to help him. But anybody paying attention to Clemson football could see what a selfish "teammate" he was. Looks like he'll never grow up and now it seems he's ruined the best chance he ever and will ever have.
Pitiful.
But hopefully he'll be an example to some other kid of how not to ruin their life.
When I was a kid there was a boy in my town who the NBA wanted straight out of high school but he burned himself out on drugs and disappeared from this earth in a very ignominious way.
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He done***
Jun 15, 2018, 8:42 AM
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Re: He done***
Jun 15, 2018, 9:39 AM
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He should be done, and the NFL will have fail their test if he isn't done!!!
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I understand that players need to follow the rules
Jun 15, 2018, 10:15 AM
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but the NFL really needs to stop testing for weed. It's not a performance-enhancing drug, and in quite a few states it's legal. It's just ruining these guys' lives and livelihoods for no good reason.
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I agree
Jun 15, 2018, 10:51 AM
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1. Tay breaks the rules, he takes punishment. He/we/no one has to like it, it is what it is until it's changed.
2. The whole 'weed' factor needs to go. It's absurd and...for the record, I've never smoked, nor intend to. (I don't mind the smell  and I do like snacks!)
Selectively deciding via rules and laws on what is good or bad for people is overblown. We have DUI/DWI laws, but people still do it. There are speed limits...yeah, those work well. Don't text and drive...I'll tell you straight up, cell phone drivers are far worse than your neighbor who has weed...or snorts coke in his home. Let Darwinism work! 
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Re: I understand that players need to follow the rules
Jun 15, 2018, 11:16 AM
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I agree that there really isn’t a need to test for weed, but if I had a contract worth millions and one of the stipulations was to stay clean I wouldn’t risk it at all. If Martavua truly has issues I hope he can change the people he’s been around and finds the help that he needs.
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"It" isn't ruining their lives and livelihoods. They are
Jun 15, 2018, 12:28 PM
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freely making choices which they know will lead to consequences. They could very, very easily make different choices. They are 100% responsible.
I would agree that weed needs to be totally legalized and the NFL needs to rethink their policy. It's a bad policy.
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It’s not legal, states are breaking federal law
Jun 15, 2018, 12:36 PM
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and it’s stupid for an an athlete to smoke anything.
That being my opinion, I think the feds should remove it from class 1 and allow research for ways to make helpful drugs
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I could be wrong, but if
Jun 15, 2018, 12:01 PM
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players want to smoke pot, why does the NFL care? It's ridiculous. It's legal in how many states now?
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Grab a BUD Liight and walk into
Jun 15, 2018, 1:33 PM
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Work. Tell your boss it is legal in most states.
Come back and tell me how it goes.
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Re: Grab a BUD Liight and walk into
Jun 15, 2018, 4:02 PM
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Was he smoking weed in the weight room? Or at his house? Walking into work with a bud light and drinking one on your deck are not the same thing... my work stopped random drug tests a long time ago...
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It’s a TEST!! Doesn’t matter where he did it!***
Jun 15, 2018, 5:59 PM
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Re: I could be wrong, but if
Jun 16, 2018, 7:57 AM
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Besides the fact that it is a drug and can be mind altering, it is smoke going in your lungs and little kids look up to these people. Nobody should put smoke in their lungs of any kind. Especially pro athletes. I don't want my kids hero to be a smoker like I was for year and years.
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And THIS is why i didn't think it was a good trade for the
Jun 15, 2018, 12:26 PM
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Raiders. It's like Josh Gordon 2.0
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 1:40 PM
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Look I smoked pot like a lot of people smoked pot. I started using when I was 13 and continued through my college years up until I was 23 when I laid it down for a job. I don't care what the dictionary says in the definition of addiction you don't become chemically dependent on weed. Its just not possible. Never meet anyone going through withdraws from pot. Now someone might just want to get high and have come accustomed to being high but as far as needing it to be normal it couldn't be farther from the truth. Do a little 3 or 4 year experiment if you don't believe me. Get hooked on pot and quit then get hooked on Meth, Cocaine, Heroin or Opioids. Then let me know which one you were addicted to. People who get hooked on the latter can actually die if trying to quit without the proper help. Never has been the case with pot. Watch someone try and beat a pain pill addiction and tell me its the same.Its not the same because your body becomes chemically dependent on the chemicals in those drugs where if you are bad enough it can cause you to have seizures. I've traveled down a lot of dark roads through my time with pot being everything to me and if you would have asked me when I was 17 or 18 if I wanted or could stop smoking weed I'd have told you absolutely not. When I was 23 and my now wife was pregnant with my son it was a decision I made to quit and I laid it down and never looked back. Not one time did I ever have any type of withdraw from not smoking pot. I have watched people go through hell trying to beat true addictions and its something I don't wish on even my most hated Gamecock fan. People are going to believe what they want I am just letting you know through my experiences and experiences of my friends that pot is more of a mind frame and just beating the urge to get high. Its not beating a chemical imbalance in your body like with so many of these other drugs. To me its like people calling having an addiction a disease, its a slap in the face to people who have a disease. People that had no choice in the situation. Addiction is a choice. You had to make the first move to be addicted and there are many people out here today with lethal and debilitating diseases that wish they had a choice.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 8:01 AM
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I agreed completly and have been through the same situation. I was addicted to weed tho but not chemically and I did stop as you did without getting sick. Nobody is saying it is an excuse for him but he is obviously addicted if he will not stop to keep his job. Yes it is a choice but it is hard to overcome addiction for some people even when it doesn't send them through withdrawals.
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I'm addicted to Tigernet and Flickr......
Jun 15, 2018, 1:46 PM
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But I'm not an NFL player so I don't care. The stigma from weed in the NFL is ridiculous. How many NBA players smoke weed?
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Bout tree fitty***
Jun 15, 2018, 3:05 PM
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 15, 2018, 4:10 PM
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I missed practice...
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 7:25 AM
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It’s gonna be sad in a few years when they’ve legalized it everywhere and all these players have suffered, some of them had their careers ruined over an outdated, ridiculous policy.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 10:02 AM
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Pica....
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 11:02 AM
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This is my shocked face ??
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 11:22 AM
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Had a friend that had bong hits every morning before he did anything else. He was a great artist and excellent math wiz.
He told me in not so many words that he couldnt stop. Eventually committed suicide. How much was relavent to his bong hits I'll never know. But he had a lot going for him before he took his life. I never considered it addicting, but perhaps it is to some folks.
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likely a depressed person, using as a coping mechanism***
Jun 16, 2018, 11:26 AM
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Re: likely a depressed person, using as a coping mechanism***
Jun 16, 2018, 11:43 AM
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Yeah, he could have been depressed. Some folks hide it so well.
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All-TigerNet [12797]
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 11:26 AM
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I think Forrest Gump put it best...
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 10:23 PM
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"stupid is as stupid does"
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I'm not giving Hollywood
Jun 16, 2018, 10:37 PM
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Credit for shyatt. Hollywood follows life...not the other way around...unless you want to pretend aspects of science fiction.
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Re: Oh Martavis...
Jun 16, 2018, 4:54 PM
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After the first one, I said he was a waste. He keeps proving me right. Hopefully this will do it for him . . .bye bye.
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Legend [16646]
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Take your pony
Jun 16, 2018, 10:40 PM
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For a ride...otherwise, tie him to a hitching post and get lost.
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Re: Take your pony
Jun 17, 2018, 12:30 AM
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Hey up yours azzwhole
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