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Redskins trademark cancelled by Patent Office.
Jun 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2014/06/18/redskins-trademark-revoked-us-patent-office/10735053/
So the executive branch just enforced political correctness by circumventing Democracy.
Their justification? Because it "offends" a certain group of people.
While this may seem like a trivial thing, it's not. One branch of the federal government has made a significant judgement financially impacting hundreds of thousands of people (retailers, fans, etc.) all in the name of protecting certain people from being offended.
Think of the precedent this sets. One of the easiest things on Earth to abuse is the concept of being offended. Everyone can literally be offended by anything. There is no systematic or rational way to decide what is and isn't offensive. Political correctness is disgusting and debilitating. All I can do is shake my head and buy more ammo.
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Is it too much to ask the govt to fix the economy
Jun 18, 2014, 11:45 AM
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before worrying about mascots?
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Hall of Famer [21614]
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The government is too big. Decentralization is inevitable.
Jun 18, 2014, 11:47 AM
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Not sure it if happens in my lifetime... but we are obviously experiencing a global shift in world order.
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CU Guru [1053]
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A largely decentraized govt was the intent of the 10th
Jun 18, 2014, 2:16 PM
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amendment which has been ignored since Washington figured out it limited their power and appointed/confirmed Supreme Ct. justices that would interpret it in their favor.
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Oculus Spirit [97659]
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Thank John Adams. He set the ball in motion 213 years ago***
Jun 18, 2014, 3:47 PM
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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CU Guru [1669]
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this administration has successfully
Jun 18, 2014, 1:12 PM
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and strategically divided this country on every conceivable "platform" possible. It knows that a house divided cannot stand.
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CU Medallion [61465]
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The Roman Empire was destroyed from the inside, not
Jun 18, 2014, 2:18 PM
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from any external forces. Well, that, and STDs.
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Hall of Famer [21614]
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That's only part true.
Jun 18, 2014, 4:23 PM
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Defense spending wrecked the economy.Without the massive pressure from Germans it would likely have lasted indefinitely longer. Look at the Byzantine Empire. Remnants of Roman empire lasted until 15th century... and were brought down by the Ottomans.
But then again you could argue that the only reason for the "barbarian" pressure on the border was because of over-expansion, which could be considered a decision from within.
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Re: this administration has successfully
Jun 18, 2014, 9:57 PM
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Looks like mission was/is going as plan now we have 36,000+ coming across the border pre month from who knows where
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Legend [19197]
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Because it "offends" a certain group of people.
Jun 18, 2014, 11:58 AM
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What happens in our country when one political party offends the people who support the other political party? I see trouble down the road on that one.
Instead of checks and balances -- with differences of opinion freely expressed from all sides--as the Founding Fathers intended you may see one side or the other in power attempt to eliminate any other opinions from the opposition in an attempt to "not offend anyone." It would be a deal breaker for American democracy and freedom. Game over.
I thought the Alien and Sedition Acts were old news but this opens it all up again.
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CU Medallion [64517]
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How long before someone files a similar complaint....
Jun 18, 2014, 12:29 PM
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on behalf of all the Eagles, Panthers, Lions, Cardinals, Beagal Tigers, Bears, Rams, Dolphins, Colts, Jaguars, and Falcons who are incapable of expressing the level to which they are offended by the use of their respective names.
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You can't prove that without the emails.***
Jun 18, 2014, 2:18 PM
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Re: Because it "offends" a certain group of people.
Jun 18, 2014, 2:08 PM
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As a Native American, on this issue, they made the right call. I understand the concerns expressed re governmental power (as a government employee, these are mostly accurate) and interferrence. However, on this one specific issue, it was the right thing to do. One could not have seen the commercial (slated for the Super Bowl (and turned down by the NFL)aired during the NBA playoffs and reached any other conclusion.
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Legend [19197]
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Oh, no problem on that score. It is just how it was done to
Jun 18, 2014, 2:37 PM
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accomplish it.
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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What are you, like 1/32 Native American? Are you really
Jun 18, 2014, 3:51 PM
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offended by a team and large group of fans honoring the Redskins? Doing all they can to make them win and be great?
Most actual Native Americans I've talked to on this subject enjoy seeing the Redskins as a mascot, their only offense is how bad they've played the last 20 years.
You sound like a PC bullshitter who just pays lawyers to let them continue to do this ########.
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Re: What are you, like 1/32 Native American? Are you really
Jun 18, 2014, 3:54 PM
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Pretty much the same that I've heard from the NAs I've spoken to as well. I also heard that they think that the ones that are pursuing this grievance are just using it as a tool to further themselves on the political scene.
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I disagree that it is the right thing to do. People would be
Jun 18, 2014, 4:34 PM
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much better off if they realized that being offended over such a thing requires actively interpreting it in a negative way.
For instance, there is no rational reason why "white" people should not be allowed to be offended by being called "white" while Asians may be offended for being called "yellow."
It is a "learned" offense. Most people are offended for bogus, socially constructed reasons. This pathological behavior has gained momentum. What is good for people is to realize there is nothing inherently offensive about a word. You have to be swallowed up in group-think to reach any other conclusion.
People die of cancer, yet there are cancer jokes. Certain people can make then and its ok, but others can't. It's arbitrary. The whole dang hierarchy of offensive words is an irrational joke.
And being a native american is irrelevant here. Me being 1/16th Cherokee has nothing to do with it. Just like me being quarter Jew has nothing to do with Holocaust jokes.
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Legend [19590]
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While I find the term Redskins to be tasteless and offensive
Jun 18, 2014, 11:58 AM
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, it troubles me that the government can use the patent office to try to engineer social change. This sets a bad precident. What if Schneider decides to not change the name(which, once again, i think he should)? Will the government then decide to tear up the roads leading to the practice facilities under the guise of construction? Will they pressure the local govt. to rezone the area where Schneider lives?
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Hall of Famer [21614]
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I agree with everything you said, but
Jun 18, 2014, 12:10 PM
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I wish we would demolish the entire concept of "offensive." I'm only offended if someone does something to actually damage the health or interests of me or something/someone I care about.
This whole thing about white people finding finding "Redskin" offensive opens a semantics hole. "Offensive" shouldn't be a blanket term to describe things that "should" be offensive. We must recognize that taking offense is dependent on individual perspective.
This "offended" behemoth is causing people to LOOK for ways to be offended. It's directly tied to people's sense of self worth. And everyone is looking now at our GOVT to save us from feeling paranoid about ourselves? It's gotten to the point where everything remotely controversial goes through a "is that offensive?" filter.
What we have now is an ocean of hypocrisy and dishonest communication. And we wonder why Democracy is currently failing us. It relies on human beings actually saying what they believe. Instead we have a bunch of professional liars who must stay politically correct. We did this to ourselves.
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Legend [19590]
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Yep. Actually, I'm not offended by Redskins. But I don't
Jun 18, 2014, 1:34 PM
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see it as a word that in any way can be construed as anything other than derogatory. The use of Braves, Irish, Padres or Indians aren't derogatory to a group. Redskins is the one term that can't really be argued in a positive light.
People do you the "offending" term too foten and use it as an excuse for prosecution to further their beliefs. So I should not have said that I find the term offending.
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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Except my high school changed from "Indians" because it was
Jun 18, 2014, 3:53 PM
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offensive.
And what part of FIGHTING Irish isn't offensive to you?
Redskins isn't offense, not whenever used as a mascot like it is.
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Re: While I find the term Redskins to be tasteless and offensive
Jun 18, 2014, 2:12 PM
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This will likely force a change in the mascot because the symbol is no longer protected and anyone can make money off the symbol without paying royalties to the organizaiton. This could be huge for the Washington organizaiton as a chance to re-brand and make a windfall in the first couple of years.
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Oculus Spirit [93605]
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I have two issues with this.
Jun 18, 2014, 12:03 PM
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I'm not offended at the use of redskins and I'm Cherokee.
Now I need co-signers to start another franchise for a team I'll call the Redskins.
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I bet the Redskins owner is about ready to go
Jun 18, 2014, 12:28 PM
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on the warpath.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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add it to the list...
Jun 18, 2014, 12:37 PM
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and it will continue until the administration is held accountable for something
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I find it "offensive" that I have to put up with this PC BS.***
Jun 18, 2014, 12:37 PM
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Re: I find it "offensive" that I have to put up with this PC BS.***
Jun 18, 2014, 12:46 PM
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Obama "wisdom" strikes again.
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wisdumb...fixed it ***
Jun 18, 2014, 12:51 PM
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This will be an interesting lawsuit
Jun 18, 2014, 1:11 PM
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Arguably the decision is a "taking of property" by the government which requires the government to compensate the property owner for the value of the property taken. Imaging being the law firm getting 1/3 of a billion dollars (or more) since the value of the Redskins franchise has just been substantially diminished.
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Obama offends me! The last two years of his term are....
Jun 18, 2014, 1:11 PM
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going to do irrepairable damage I'm afraid.
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Re: New Approval Ratings Poll Released
Jun 18, 2014, 2:19 PM
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Just insert the word "neck" between the red and the skins and that takes care of the offensive nature.
As a whole , rednecks are proud of their political correctness...heck , they wave flags and guns to proclaim it . It is a win win for the NFL , because the entire Coot fanbase would be forced to associate themselves instantly.
Yep , the DC Rednecksins are coming ...everyone get on board.
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That term offends me as a Son of the South.***
Jun 18, 2014, 2:55 PM
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Re: Redskins trademark cancelled by Patent Office.
Jun 18, 2014, 1:18 PM
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Who's next, the Braves, Seminoles, Indians, etc all.
The Supreme Court will through this out. Easy decision.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Indians have already caved and changed their mascot
Jun 18, 2014, 1:30 PM
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either this year or last year
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Still giving in to the pressure
Jun 18, 2014, 1:44 PM
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imo
Cowards
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I don't watch hockey
Jun 18, 2014, 1:33 PM
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All the Tnet libbies are awfully quiet!***
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Re: All the Tnet libbies are awfully quiet!***
Jun 18, 2014, 2:22 PM
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Winners usually let the results do the talking.
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Re: All the Tnet libbies are awfully quiet!***
Jun 18, 2014, 3:02 PM
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Misspelled Whiners
Hth
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Re: All the Tnet libbies are awfully quiet!***
Jun 18, 2014, 5:58 PM
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Touché
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Orange Blooded [2557]
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Re: Redskins trademark cancelled by Patent Office.
Jun 18, 2014, 1:45 PM
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Re: This may help with the ammo part
Jun 18, 2014, 9:41 PM
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Cool site see some good deals ,Thanks
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All-In [30766]
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great, what's next. government won't let me be racist?
Jun 18, 2014, 2:19 PM
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Cause the new york marathon can kiss my ####. Copper river bRidge for life.
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Legend [16207]
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Change their name to the "Whiteskins" then use...
Jun 18, 2014, 4:08 PM
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...Archie Bunker icon for their emblem. Anyone wanna guess who'd be offended then?
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DeRoberts???!***
Jun 18, 2014, 8:38 PM
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Orange Blooded [3521]
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Redskins is disparaging but Fightin' Irish is not ... right*
Jun 18, 2014, 4:19 PM
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They should change their name.
Jun 18, 2014, 4:42 PM
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Washington Foreskins makes much more sense for that town.
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I'm offended by USuCk and their use of a gamecock mascot
Jun 18, 2014, 6:13 PM
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that symbolizes the cruel use of animals fighting to their death for mere amusement. Only solution is to shut down the university and arrest all that wear gamecock memorabilia...I mean, the few that aren't already in prison.
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The cock-fighting issue has merit... Call PETA...***
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I'm more ashamed of this "transparent" Gov than the name of
Jun 18, 2014, 8:00 PM
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Redskins! Can't wait to be rid of this Socialist crowd..but expect the Dem voters to put Liar-Liar Pants on Fire hillary in so to put the nail of the coffin of the USA.
GoTiGERS!
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Re: Redskins trademark cancelled by Patent Office.
Jun 18, 2014, 9:37 PM
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My My but the Government knows best, not any thing to see here go back to sleep they will let you know what to think soon.
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All-In [27363]
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Buy more ammo??????
Jun 19, 2014, 10:43 AM
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That has got to be the answer.
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When there is no answer... having more ammo is better.***
Jun 19, 2014, 8:59 PM
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Re: Redskins trademark cancelled by Patent Office.
Jun 19, 2014, 10:58 PM
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For so long people have been having symbols that are offensive to others.
If i were to wear a pentagram to church and talk about how ridiculous the notion of jesus is, there would be a backlash. why? its just a symbol. what about the confederate flag? it spews hate and ignorance and has no redeeming qualities except to hurt others.
I assure you jesus would be offended at the churches and hating of minorities and blacks that goes on there by so called christians.
i am all for destroying the foolishness of the past. who really cares about the old ways or who it offends. they will all be dead soon enough, and replaced by someone who will out vote them anyway.
the past is dead. get over it.
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This is a type of tyranny, banana-republic crap. We have law
Jun 20, 2014, 1:39 AM
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do we not?
Either their patents are protected by law, or they aren't.
WE might as well just burn down the national archives and make it official that we no longer operate under the Constitution.
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I think the Washington Thinskins is more fitting***
Jun 20, 2014, 1:44 AM
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