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this cant be serious!
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this cant be serious!


Aug 10, 2012, 5:42 PM

I've been 100% for staying in the ACC since all this Big12 talk began. But, now for the last couple of days, I've seen a few reports that the big east TV contact may actually eclipse the ACC's. If this is somehow true then it's got to be about time to move on. If we cant even get as much money as the league that we more or less tried to destroy, then something is bad wrong.

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Aug 10, 2012, 5:45 PM

There is no way that could even be possible

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Someone would have to have better negotiating skills than John Swofford to


Aug 10, 2012, 10:46 PM

do that. Impossible!

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Aug 10, 2012, 5:48 PM

I've heard that too last week...can't remember the link where I saw it.


Side note: It wasn't from the Dude

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There's a catch to it b/c of how many teams are involved


Aug 10, 2012, 6:00 PM

NBC and their new sports network wants to add more football and basketball. The total deal will be more than the ACC's but only b/c of the sheer size of the league between the 2 leagues (don't forget all the additions coming to football soon.) When broken down each football only school will get $10 mil/yr, each basketball only school will get $4 mil/yr, and each school that plays both will get $14 mil/yr. Still not really close to the ACC in those terms.

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Re: There's a catch to it b/c of how many teams are involved


Aug 10, 2012, 6:05 PM

Actually 14 million per team that plays both is the operative number, and it is very close to our fantastic deal.

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Then you could say the ACC is very close to the top deals


Aug 10, 2012, 6:15 PM

So everyone should be happy

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Re: Then you could say the ACC is very close to the top deals


Aug 10, 2012, 7:23 PM

Exactly , we are right there with the Big East football and basketball members. We should be excited!

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Re: Then you could say the ACC is very close to the top deals


Aug 10, 2012, 7:24 PM [ in reply to Then you could say the ACC is very close to the top deals ]

Exactly , we are right there with the Big East football and basketball members. We should be excited!

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Re: Then you could say the ACC is very close to the top deals


Aug 11, 2012, 12:01 AM

Are we getting less money because we invited two schools that bring nothing to the table from a negotiating power standpoint. I mean, if basketball is only worth $5 million per school and football is double that...


Do you think Pitt can get to above average in football with PSU's issues in the same state?


http://ryankantor.com/2012/08/10/clemson-2012-season-preview-guest-blog-post/

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Until the new deal is struck


Aug 11, 2012, 12:16 AM [ in reply to Then you could say the ACC is very close to the top deals ]

What it seems like people are forgetting is that the deal gets to be renegotiated because of the additions. It's actually a clause in the first deal that if the ACC expands then the deal would be up for renegotiation. Also, even though I do not like the additions of the two schools in choice, they both provide good television markets. Pittsburgh and New York are added to the ACC's reach and because of that, the deal should get sweeter. If the ACC drops the ball on the renegotiation then we are definitely in the wrong conference. Until then, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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We were making 13 before signing the new deal***


Aug 11, 2012, 12:04 AM [ in reply to Re: There's a catch to it b/c of how many teams are involved ]



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yeah but Raycom is making millions which is good


Aug 11, 2012, 12:23 AM

for some of their employees

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Yet another post with NO FACTS....***


Aug 11, 2012, 4:05 AM



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You want facts? Google it, you've got a lead with the post


Aug 11, 2012, 10:03 AM

Not that hard to find it, there's a lot of articles on it!

NBC is desperate now for more college sports. Where that hurts us is we can't go out and find a new network, our expansion clause only lets us renegotiate with ESPN. The Big East's contract is expiring and they can negotiate with anyone. At the end of the day only a couple of teams are getting the max payout of this deal and still it's gonna be a few million shy of what the ACC has for all of their schools.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/big-east-football-heading-direction-conference-a-commissioner-backbone-games-national-tv-article-1.1127668?pgno=1

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Oh you mean like the 100's of articles about Clemson to B12


Aug 11, 2012, 10:33 AM

Like I said NO FACTS all speculation.

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No, I mean stories from actual journalists with credible


Aug 11, 2012, 10:41 AM

sources posted on reputable news sites. That would be the complete opposite of the 100's of articles about Clemson to B12 that came from uncredentialed web bloggers who sounded like they got their news from a friend of a friend of a friend, which makes their sources sound like they're in REO Speedwagon.

There was a reason why no real news agency touched the Clemson to the Big 12 rumors. It simply wasn't true.

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No way, that's not possible...just chatter***


Aug 11, 2012, 7:05 AM



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It's what the SEC will get when they finish their


Aug 11, 2012, 7:18 AM

renegotiations, that matters. Who really gives a flip what the Big East gets? What should keep you up in nights is what So Car will get.

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Aug 11, 2012, 7:44 AM

Sorry, but a very great man speaks about contracts in the book of Matthew, and you should just get over it.

Basically, if YOU are satisfied with the contract that YOU and SOMEONE made, then you should be content. If someone else gets a better contract with the same SOMEONE, then it should not matter as it does NOT affect YOUR contract.

I didn't say that. If you disagree, I'll let you argue with him. Uh - be prepared for a beat down of biblical proportions. :)

Just saying.

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Aug 11, 2012, 9:49 AM

The only problem with that is that very few on here are happy with the contract, fact or perception, most feel we got shafted by the commish.

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