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The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 4:29 PM
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If CBB has not been the right coach for the past 12 years, getting into the dance next year is not going to make him the right coach. It will be a costly aberration as it has been before.
My guess is GNeff has developed a friendship with CBB over the years and just wanted to let CBB fire himself in the hopes CU won't make the tourney next year.
So, the most likely scenario is CU will have a new coach this time next year, but, we will have squandered a year of rebuilding.
If you recall.. Dabo didn't mess around in bringing in his folks from the get go.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 4:33 PM
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Not a mistake in my opinion. A well played chess match. The chess piece is on Brownell's side of the board now.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 20, 2022, 1:27 PM
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I am sorry, but that is simply not an acceptable analogy.
In the game of chess when you have the clear moves to
Checkmate, you don't delay to see if the opponent will self declare
Checkmate for you? 12 years of Ineptitude is too much! Young Mr Neff
should ask the question? Will Clemson Nation forgive more easily for
the buyout Now? or will Clemson Nation forgive him for wasting another
year and costing us 3 years before a turnaround occurs?
Wise old saying "Don't put off to tomorrow what can be accomplished Today!
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BB's coaching looks more like tic-tac-toe***
Mar 20, 2022, 9:45 PM
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 18, 2022, 4:34 PM
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If it happens, it has got to be before April, because the buyout goes up a lot by then.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 4:48 PM
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I don't think the total buyout goes up. The monthly goes up, but with fewer months remaining. If the total goes up for KEEPING the coach, then Clemson needs a new lawyer.
Buyouts came into being to protect the coach.. as monthly salary is paid out, the risk to the coach diminishes each month.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 4:58 PM
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So from what you are saying, Brad probably should just resign? It is not on your resume that you resign rather than getting "fired". You see coaches do it all the time. It would be like a mutal decision that both parties want to go their separate ways. Brad wants to take time off and maybe persue other opportunities later and because of this Clemson wants to pursue other options? Now, the buyout still is proceeded with toward Brad, but his reputation stays in tact. Is that what you saying will probably happen?
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 18, 2022, 7:26 PM
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Clemson’s lawyer wears a mask over his nose and mouth. He is very considerate of others.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 18, 2022, 8:14 PM
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If it happens, it has got to be before April, because the buyout goes up a lot by then.
Says the man who has never been to a game in LJ. Doubt you could find Clemson on a map…
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People who matter don't mind, people who mind don't matter.***
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Mar 18, 2022, 4:57 PM
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Yeah Dabo brought in his own people from the beginning
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Mar 18, 2022, 5:06 PM
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But he's also not the Athletic Director. He's a head coach. Apples to oranges.
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It's not a mistake until...
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Mar 18, 2022, 5:08 PM
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It won't be a big mistake until basketball season rolls around next season.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 5:27 PM
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Not a mistake unless you have a hungry, proven coach waiting in the wings who is a great recruiter and can attract talent to Clemson. If there were no good options right now then you have no choice but to stand pat one more year and work like crazy over the next 12 months to develop a strong candidate list to deal a year from now if next year's team doesn't make it to the big dance. I think he made it very clear that there is some work to be done and some investments to be made in order to attract that kind of coach to Clemson. In my opinion, he showed good judgment and maturity rather than making an emotional decision that might have just turned into another big mistake down the road.
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Whatever happened to the old adage about
Mar 18, 2022, 5:43 PM
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ADs keeping a short list of coaching candidates?
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Re: Whatever happened to the old adage about
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Mar 19, 2022, 8:47 PM
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If someone is on the hot seat they generally do have an idea who they might want to go after based on potential availability and fit. I know that Shaka Smart has been someone that has been floated as a potential target and type of person that might be a great fit.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 5:57 PM
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We are replaying the same movie. Give him another chance but if he don’t do this or that we will let him go for sure this time. Meanwhile you fans just shut up and send money. Outside of good luck here and there we have had very few ADs that know a good coach when they are looking at him in the face??
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 20, 2022, 3:32 PM
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Did you misspell the second "good"? Shouldn't that be "bad"?
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I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
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Mar 18, 2022, 6:27 PM
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Brad is not the coach for Clemson. All we are doing is prolonging the situation. People think after 12 years he is all of a sudden going to turn the program around. Its ridiculous. So he makes the tourney next year then what? We are stuck with him for even longer.
The only reason the decision to keep him makes sense is simply keeping Brownell for financial reasons.
That is it.
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Re: I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
Mar 18, 2022, 6:31 PM
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Agree Financial is the biggest motive. But also PJ Hall is a big fan of Brownell and he is arguably the best player Clemson has had in 20 years or so.
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Re: I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
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Mar 18, 2022, 7:18 PM
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I worrythat pj is a perennial injury prone athlete. But he is good.
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Re: I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
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Mar 18, 2022, 7:30 PM
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I worrythat pj is a perennial injury prone athlete. But he is good.
That is why you never bring someone back because of a star player coming back. One injury or incident away from that benefit flushed down the drain. Ok. Maybe 4 of them because most likely three will have no problems, but not just 1...
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Re: I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
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Mar 19, 2022, 7:57 AM
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Trevor Booker say hi.
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Re: I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
Mar 19, 2022, 2:22 PM
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So does Blossomgame, KC Rivers, Hammonds, Stitt, Devin Booker, Reed, and Simms.
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Re: I agree it is all just a waste of everyones time
Mar 20, 2022, 12:32 AM
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20 years? LMFAO !!!!!
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 18, 2022, 6:58 PM
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wow 49% weighs in. Where would we be without it
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 7:01 PM
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I can think of 2.5 million reasons to keep him around a bit longer…
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 18, 2022, 7:15 PM
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If you are going to be average no need in wasting the money to buy him out.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 18, 2022, 8:47 PM
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Just how deep into the tournament would you think would make this the right decision? I don’t think Graham is ready to cheat. Unlike Some other hires so far this year. Maybe if Calipari goes out first round next year he will want to come to Clemson. Try his luck in the ACC.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 8:50 PM
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That’s OP reacting to Terrance Oglesby blowing an easy dunk.
Mar 19, 2022, 1:10 PM
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I remember them showing it during the game.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
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Mar 18, 2022, 9:48 PM
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Bottom line...if there is a thought that you should write a letter for or against a coach who's been the head coach of any program and/or department at any university for 12 years...the obvious decision is to hire someone else...and it's kinda pathetic that you actually wrote a letter...just do your job...you were hired to do a job...do it...you don't have to explain publicly...you will either be good at your job over time and remain or not and get fired yourself!!!
Do you need to talk to some big donors and especially big donors who really like basketball??? Of course...but write a letter...pfff...comes Off as very weak and seeking approval of your decisions imho...do your job...the masses will let you know if you're doing good or not!!!
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Bottom Line
Mar 19, 2022, 8:51 AM
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The Lunatic Fringe does not run the program. The AD runs the program. Just give it a rest. Monte Lee has lost three in a row. Go jump on him like you guys always do.
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Re: Bottom Line
Mar 19, 2022, 12:28 PM
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Ease up om Monte. We have plenty of time to blast him when Clemson fails to make a regional - again.
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There's no rebuilding
Mar 19, 2022, 8:49 AM
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Much of this year's team returns. When the success comes next year, the lunatic fringe is really going to be pissed off. But no matter the situation, some will never give up trying to fire CBB. Just give it a rest.
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Re: There's no rebuilding
Mar 19, 2022, 7:30 PM
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Absolutely. It’s sad to think there’s a chunk of posters who will be actively rooting against the team next year. The kids and the coaches deserve better. I’m fine with the challenge the AD put out there, and I’m also fine with the AD being challenged to provide the resources for the program to be more successful. Given PJ Hall’s talent and potential, I think this could be a very different conversation we’re having in two years. Let’s root for that.
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Re: There's no rebuilding
Mar 20, 2022, 3:50 PM
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Yes, another good argument against giving a coach another year after the fan base has lost confidence in them.
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Success was supposed to come this year...
Mar 20, 2022, 9:48 PM
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Brownell fans sound like chickens. I've heard "Wait till next year" for 10 years now.
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Fire Neff and BB
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Mar 19, 2022, 11:58 AM
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He’s looking like a spineless incompetent AD to me.
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Re: The young AD makes his first public mistake
Mar 20, 2022, 12:31 AM
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Exactly correct.
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I'm giving Neff the benefit of the doubt here.
Mar 20, 2022, 10:30 AM
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As many have pointed out along the way, it would be something of a stretch for a new AD, no matter his prior time in service, to replace a revenue sport's leadership during his first months at the helm, barring some type of collapse, which didn't occur.
Based on what he shared in his letter, I get the sense that Neff feels that the program needs a little more infrastructure in place to attract the right kind of leadership than exists today, and that having a full year of work ahead to implement more of his vision here that we would be in a better position then to attract the type of candidate that can see us over the top. I don't believe he trusts the existing apparatus.
I didn't see weakness there. I saw commitment to basketball, and a belief in himself to improve our fortunes there over the longer term, starting this offseason.
Go Tigers.
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Another thing about this that's going to hurt...
Mar 20, 2022, 3:17 PM
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Is recruiting. You can bet competitors are telling recruits that Clemson's AD wrote this about Brad on the hot seat and why go there with a new coach in a year or so...
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