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The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.
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The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Oct 30, 2022, 4:29 PM

One take is that it doesn't matter because if Clemson wins out it doesn't matter.

The other take is with a strong strength of schedule a one-loss Clemson could make the playoffs.

The existence of the second take invalidates the first. If it's possible to get in with one loss, and the variable is strength of schedule.... then strength of schedule DOES MATTER.

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Oct 30, 2022, 4:36 PM

Depends on how many zero-loss teams there are.
We know one of Mich/OSU and UGA/UT will lose.

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Oct 31, 2022, 12:06 AM

But with a great hard fought game, don't be surprised to see a 1 loss team ahead of us. Can you imagine Georgia/Tenn game where it was 28-27 or such? We wouldn't jump them in the polls.

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Bama - could have 1 loss and win sec


Oct 31, 2022, 9:30 AM

then theres another sec team with 1 loss maybe


the argument is annoying because the SEC would want 3 or 4 schools in because "They are better losses". and better "Strength of schedule

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Oct 30, 2022, 4:37 PM

Strength of schedule Debate is always interesting. Win out and the debate does not matter.

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Oct 30, 2022, 4:40 PM

Same story different year. Just that this year the SEC is mad at LSU because they lost to FSU but keep winning making the FSU - ACC win look better and helps Clemson because they beat FSU.

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Oct 30, 2022, 4:56 PM

saddis56® said:

Same story different year. Just that this year the SEC is mad at LSU because they lost to FSU but keep winning making the FSU - ACC win look better and helps Clemson because they beat FSU.




This is my whole thing.
FSU win at the start of the season is looking huge now! Some of the air in the chest of the SEC faithful is lessened a bit with that lame gauntlet SEC schedule argument.

Clemson will play up to and beyond what people expect when they have to. Win them all.

ND and Louisville winning big was great in my mind. No time to not show up like they can't beat you(the Tigers) like they did those other teams. Because when we show up; we pretty much have to help teams beat us. If we play well; it will take a speial effort by the other team to win.

Just keep winning.

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Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Oct 30, 2022, 4:41 PM

Strength of schedule does matter. An undefeated team like a Coastal Carolina or even UCF a few years ago wouldn't make a four team championship series. An undefeated Power 5 conference champ from a conference with a championship game will get in over a defeated conference runner up.

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Oct 30, 2022, 5:34 PM

We have to win out this year. Despite the wins over ranked teams this year we continue to be disrespected in the rankings. That won’t change unless we win it all again. But in terms of this season we have to win out to get in no matter how many undefeated there are. They are dying to have an all big 10/SEC playoff.

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Oct 30, 2022, 10:48 PM [ in reply to Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd. ]

You bet it matters a heck of a lot because it is someones perception of those teams that are being played and influenced by ESPN televised games and needing to have highest ranking vs. highest ranking so those are artificially inflated! We draw great and all of those talking heads know that and what they are paid and how much money the Karl Marx channels and ESPN make! They can leave us out at their own peril and I think they would do so in a minute...but they have trouble getting Dabo out of their craw when he is stuck in there so often! If strength of schedule and results really matter then we should have been in the playoff last year...we held the national champion to no offensive touchdowns (who else did) one pick six and a field goal and fewer trips in the red zone! They just forgot that one!

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Oct 30, 2022, 5:21 PM

Sadly unless Carolina and FSU win out, our SOS will be just average. At this point we have no "National Star" to draw on like Bama, Ohio State and Tennessee do so we need to win out. If we stumble, we better win big in the other 4 and the stumble can't be in the ACC Championship.

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Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Oct 30, 2022, 5:26 PM

It *can* matter, but it *might not* matter.

Kind of like a tie-breaker, which is irrelevant if there isn't a tie.

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Oct 30, 2022, 5:29 PM

13-0 with a ACC championship is no guarantee to get in the playoffs. There are 6-7 teams that are perceived to be better than Clemson. Even Oregon is being perceived to be better than Clemson. This year is totally different from years past. For people to say go 12-0 and win the ACC and your in is totally wrong.

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Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Oct 30, 2022, 5:34 PM

"Your" wrong.

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Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Oct 30, 2022, 6:06 PM

I hope I am. Go Tigers

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Q -When's the last time an undefeated P5 conference champion


Oct 31, 2022, 7:20 AM

has been left out of the playoffs?

A - Never. And it never will happen.

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Oct 30, 2022, 6:10 PM [ in reply to Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd. ]

We are ranked #5. Right now there are exactly four teams perceived better than we are. And two of them are definitely going to lose one of their games. Up until now, it has been the AP ranking that has mattered. After this it is in the hands of the Committee. Doesn't matter what we think, what ESECPN says, or what others think. If we win out, we are in.

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Oct 30, 2022, 7:00 PM [ in reply to Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd. ]

13-0 with an ACC championship is a guarantee to get in the playoffs. I fixed it for you.


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Oct 31, 2022, 12:08 AM [ in reply to Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd. ]

I believe you're correct. And this is the hill we have to climb still.

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Imo, there's too many factors to have the...


Oct 31, 2022, 7:45 AM

argument over which of those two. SOS is relative to when and how it's determined. It starts with preseason opinion and becomes fairly dependable toward the end of the season. Cincy's SOS was less than impressive yet they made an appearance in the PO.

How other teams fair is also a factor. If five unbeaten P5 teams were to arise SOS would probably dominate the POC's conversation.

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Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Oct 31, 2022, 8:49 AM

Strength of schedule only matters if we have a loss.

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Re: The Strength of schedule "debate" is really odd.


Nov 1, 2022, 1:28 PM

We are not doing ourselves any favors scheduling Furman, LA tech.

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Told you.***


Nov 23, 2022, 8:13 AM



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