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Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"
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Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 8:40 AM

I have a question for the "True Fans" that are fussing at the "fair weather" fans for complaining about Dabo, Elliot, DJ and the state of the program...

Do you think Dabo, Elliot and the rest of the coaching staff will be sitting around a campfire with the team singing kumbaya with the team or will they be sticking a foot up the team's back side and letting them know that every position is subject to change?

Option 1: Kumbaya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhV_3kx9knA

Option 2: Sticking a foot up the caboose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C76wGBl4i7I

You can bet your bottom dollar team Dabo will be doing some complaining to the team..Just like the fans are complaining.

Crap will hit the fan at practice today:



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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 8:45 AM

Best post “EVER”

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i think Coaches who get paid millions know the


Sep 27, 2021, 8:45 AM

problems better than internet randos.

I would hope that coaches who get paid millions do not seek advice from internet randos.

If they lose a game it hurts internet rando's feelings.. but it impacts their job directly. I'm positive they take it far more serious than intent rando.

so whatever they end up doing....i dare say internet randos will have little impact

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: i think Coaches who get paid millions know the


Sep 27, 2021, 8:49 AM

Smell what you're stepping in, but coaches making millions of dollars get fired all the time.

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the sure do . but not by internet randos***


Sep 27, 2021, 8:53 AM



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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: i think Coaches who get paid millions know the


Sep 27, 2021, 8:52 AM [ in reply to i think Coaches who get paid millions know the ]


problems better than internet randos.

I would hope that coaches who get paid millions do not seek advice from internet randos.

If they lose a game it hurts internet rando's feelings.. but it impacts their job directly. I'm positive they take it far more serious than intent rando.

so whatever they end up doing....i dare say internet randos will have little impact


This is not about losing a game, this is about a trend that has been worsening since our last natty. We are predictable, weak and perhaps scared on offense. Trevor's QB talent somewhat masked this problem but our Oline problems and predictable route schemes have been problematic for years. Fans are invested in this team as well - loyalty, (not blind loyalty), capital and time.

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and you think an internet rando sees this .. but a coach


Sep 27, 2021, 8:55 AM

does not?

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Dude youve been here since 03


Sep 27, 2021, 9:06 AM

Making the DUMBEST EFFING POSTS KNOWN TO MAN. Do you even understand the purpose of a freaking message board? Its not just to be some sunshine pumping circle jerk. And oh by the way, fan/alumni/booster sentiment has FAR MORE impact than you think it does.

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Dabo actually mentioned people complaining in his presser


Sep 27, 2021, 9:10 AM

So what you said is 100 % accurate

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actually been here since 1999 making the DUMBEST EFFING


Sep 27, 2021, 9:19 AM [ in reply to Dude youve been here since 03 ]

POSTS KNOWN TO MAN .

If you were the AD or a coach at a school.. would you go to some anonymous internet message board to make decisions?

fan/alumni/booster sentiment means a lot but that is different from random internet sites.

perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of a freaking message board?

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


EXACTLY! Some of us contribute a lot of $$ to Clemson


Sep 27, 2021, 9:38 AM [ in reply to Dude youve been here since 03 ]

If the $$ givers are not happy, guess what… crap will change one way or another! This board reflects the mood of a lot of them right now!

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the smart play is to call IPTAY


Sep 27, 2021, 10:35 AM

if you want change

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


LOL, and what is IPTAY going to do about disgruntled fans?


Sep 27, 2021, 11:57 AM

"Hey, uh, Dabo, we got some upset fans on the phone. They said they want us to do something about it. What do ya want us to tell them?"

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i guess depends on how much you donate


Sep 27, 2021, 12:50 PM

the guy who flies in on the helicopter probably has some pull.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Done…***


Sep 27, 2021, 4:24 PM



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The coaches sure aren’t acting like it! When it is obvious…


Sep 27, 2021, 9:36 AM [ in reply to and you think an internet rando sees this .. but a coach ]

Then don’t play dumb with the public! Be Frank and specific. You should be re- evaluations everything and everyone… including DJ, the gangsta dresser and NIL sweetheart… smarten up coaches… it is in his head! Give someone else a shot while he gets his mind right!

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If our coaches see it, they don't appear to be doing much


Sep 27, 2021, 11:56 AM [ in reply to and you think an internet rando sees this .. but a coach ]

to address it.

Dabo just said last week that our offense doesn't stink. He praised DJ for a great game against GT.

After the NCSU debacle, Dabo and Elliott acknowledged our struggles some but they also continued to dig their heels in regarding our scheme and personnel.

I realize that they are in a tough spot. If they make drastic changes then they are admitting defeat and also run the risk of it not working. But by staying with the same stuff that isn't working, they come across as complacent.

They are paid the big bucks to figure this stuff out, but it shouldn't take two disappointing playoff performances on offense and four awful offensive performances this year before changes are attempted.

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Yup… now they have a short fuse in which to rectify***


Sep 27, 2021, 4:26 PM



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Correct sir… this has been 2+ years in the making***


Sep 27, 2021, 9:32 AM [ in reply to Re: i think Coaches who get paid millions know the ]



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None of these coaches need this job at this point so acting


Sep 27, 2021, 9:25 AM [ in reply to i think Coaches who get paid millions know the ]

Like they care b/c of the job is misguided. They care because they care or they don’t. Has zero to do with job security for them. They are multimillionaires. Unlike most of us, they don’t have to work another day of their lives!

I for one think most of the coaches care regardless of the $$. But some have grown complacent and phoned it in. Either this re-energizes them to get on the stick for the players sake or it doesn’t. If it doesn’t, then be gone.

Now some may not be football savvy enough to figure it out and for them, they need to be gone too. All I can say is when Jeff Scott was here, the offensive play calling was not this predictable and limited. So perhaps he and all the talented QBs helped hide the football knowledge deficiencies of those who stayed behind. ??

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Then let's just shut down the TigerNet message board


Sep 27, 2021, 11:52 AM [ in reply to i think Coaches who get paid millions know the ]

since nothing we talk about here matters.

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Since "Nothing Matters"...


Sep 27, 2021, 12:29 PM

Why not shut it down when this Team is Doing Great? Are you suggesting only "happy thoughts" should be acceptable?

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oh.. it matters to Bmeist and Crump


Sep 27, 2021, 1:50 PM [ in reply to Then let's just shut down the TigerNet message board ]

for sure

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Re: i think Coaches who get paid millions know the


Sep 27, 2021, 4:35 PM [ in reply to i think Coaches who get paid millions know the ]

What does a fourth century king have to do with the problems of our Clemson football team? Or are you just throwing around a woke term? Either Way I don’t care what you think. I think fans are very disappointed and concerned about the product on the field …and I think they have every right to be ….and I have been a Clemson fan for 72 years. You?

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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 8:59 AM

Change is great, but will we see it across the board? Love DJ and know what he is capable of doing, he and the offense are not meshing right now. They have moved lineman, receivers and running backs, but the QB remains the same. The kid has tremendous pressure on him, Boyd, Watson, TL16. Maybe he needs to step back and regroup.

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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 8:59 AM

Change is great, but will we see it across the board? Love DJ and know what he is capable of doing, he and the offense are not meshing right now. They have moved lineman, receivers and running backs, but the QB remains the same. The kid has tremendous pressure on him, Boyd, Watson, TL16. Maybe he needs to step back and regroup.

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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 9:01 AM

I am die hard Clemson fan and will support the team what ever happens. But they must be singing Kumbaya, because not every position is subject to change. Dabo and Elliott both said that they are sticking with DJ and have no intentions of replacing him.

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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 9:48 AM

dj SUCKS END OF STORY, matter of fact the whole offense sucks and the coaches suck also including DABO, BECAUSE THE BUCK STOPS THERE, coastal carolina is way better than clemson especially on offense, heck 100 plus teams are better now than clemson on offense never thought i would be saying that, but fact is fact we are stinking it up good, least we can say were consistent, consistently bad.

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No problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 10:38 AM

Just unrealistic "Complainers".

Just ones that ALWAYS complain

Just ones who have lost sight of what Dabo has done for Clemson football. He turned this program around.

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Re: No problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 11:48 AM

Dabo has done a great job since he was hired and i do think he will overcome this he has been one of the most successfull coaches the past 6+ yrs we were due a setback at some point i just did not see it happening this fast but this is where were at so we will have to deal with it, do ihave confidence in Dabo, yes i do, do i think he will fix this soon, thats up in the air, he's not the one playing the players are its up to them to perform at a high level, sure he has to prepare them but on game day its up to the players to execute. I do feel the play calling has been vanilla at best, but to be honest he hasn't got the weapons he once had either and it shows, the offense is real young and they will get better and now the injury bug has hit which does not help and players leaving for the transfer portal doesn't either, Dabo is the best coach in clemson history bar none he's just having an off year, he will respond and he will get this team back on track he's too good of coach not to. Ilove clemson football, i live for saturdays watching them and it hurts to watch us under perform but thats exactly how were going to use this as motivation the rest of this year and next year, we will be back and stronger than ever i have faith in Dabo and he will re-write the ship whatever it takes.

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Re: No problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 12:54 PM [ in reply to No problem with the "Complainers" ]

He turned it around all right. Probably the only team and coach in modern College FB history who started the year ranked #2 in the nation and after 4 games is now ranked #25, and even that ranking is too generous.

Let that fact sink in and it is not a record that should be ignored by fans and alumni. OR DABO.

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No need....


Sep 27, 2021, 1:21 PM

I remember what the Clemson Tiger football team looked like when I was in school.

I don't pretend this offense is good....but to turn on Coach Dabo now...is simply and plainly stupid.

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Danny Ford:


Sep 27, 2021, 10:41 AM

"Be much tougher on teams that are winning, not when they are losing."

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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 1:10 PM



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Re: Deer "True Fans" That have a problem with the "Complainers"


Sep 27, 2021, 4:01 PM

Good point

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