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Rick Barnes
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Rick Barnes


Jan 17, 2022, 12:41 PM

Get him back please!!!

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Re: Rick Barnes


Jan 17, 2022, 12:45 PM

That ship has sailed.

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Re: Rick Barnes


Jan 17, 2022, 12:46 PM

I was afraid someone would burst my bubble. Lol.

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Cliff Ellis


Jan 17, 2022, 12:49 PM

Might be willing to come back

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Re: Cliff Ellis


Jan 17, 2022, 12:50 PM

Heyyyy I’m ok with that idea as well. Wondered why no one brought him up. Figured it was his age.

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Re: Cliff Ellis


Jan 17, 2022, 12:53 PM

Cliff is getting up in age but would be a step above at his age of what we have now.

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Re: Cliff Ellis


Jan 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

Cliff would sing and had a great voice. Don’t know why then the dumb AD let him go. I think it was the same one that sent Danny to the Hemp farm

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Re: Cliff Ellis


Jan 17, 2022, 12:58 PM

Yea I didn’t remember the story of why he got let go or if he had quit just knew he ended up at Auburn for a good while. A kid my son played soccer with from Northwestern (RH) Mason Griggs was recruited to play for him at Coastal. I was unaware till then he was even coaching.

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Cliff was fired for two reasons.


Jan 17, 2022, 1:37 PM [ in reply to Re: Cliff Ellis ]

Notable NCAA issues, plus no NCAA Tournament for four years in a row.

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Re: Cliff Ellis


Jan 17, 2022, 12:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Cliff Ellis ]

Agreed! A few years back everyone seemed to be on the Winthrop, Wichita St. coach. Just read an article on him and did not realize Wichita St had let him go due to some investigations. Always thought he was a good one.

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I see Cliff Ellis all the time; he isn't leaving Coastal


Jan 17, 2022, 3:03 PM

He has a great house on deep water, plays golf all the time. Demand isn't that great where he coaches and he loves it here. A good person and a better coach.

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Re: Rick Barnes


Jan 17, 2022, 1:17 PM [ in reply to Re: Rick Barnes ]

Barnes did more with less than was humanly possible. His “slab five” were unbelievable.

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The Slab Five year was great.


Jan 17, 2022, 1:40 PM

An outstanding coaching job for sure.

The Sweet 16 year was really good too, obviously.

I felt that he underachieved his last two years here though. There was no excuse for losing in the first round with Buckner and McIntyre in my opinion. Those two years felt more Purnell-esque in that we were talented but ran out of steam at the end of the year.

Rick saw the writing on the wall: Buckner was graduating, McIntyre had only one more year left, and there were some key recruiting misses. He knew he was going to have a decline at Clemson, so he left while his value was high.

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That beats running out of gas in the middle of the 2nd half


Jan 17, 2022, 3:04 PM

of the game. Giving up the lead in multiple games suck!

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Re: Rick Barnes


Jan 17, 2022, 1:41 PM [ in reply to Re: Rick Barnes ]

I was a freshman the year of the Slab Five. Merl Code, Andy Kelly, Iker Iturbe, Bruce Martin, Ihsan Scott. Buck was the only legitimate ACC level player on that team, but Barnes took them to the NIT that year and brought in some talent the next year (Big O, T-Mac, Tony Christie, Jurkunas, Wideman). Okay so maybe a couple of those guys his second year didn't qualify as "talent" but they were upgrades over most of the slab five.

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Re: Rick Barnes


Jan 17, 2022, 1:31 PM

That ship has sailed. Move on.

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Nah - he tee-teed upon Clemson as he left. Basically said he


Jan 17, 2022, 1:34 PM

had to get his kids into a school system that wasn't filled with inbred hillbillies (or something like that).

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Tennessee pays Barnes roughly double what we pay Brad.


Jan 17, 2022, 1:34 PM

Are you willing to increase our basketball budget by about $3 million a year to pay Rick Barnes?

This is assuming that Rick Barnes would be okay knowing that he would be taking over a program with much less funding than his current program at Tennessee receives. He would have to piece together a staff while paying them much less than he pays his staff at Tennessee.

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Re: Tennessee pays Barnes roughly double what we pay Brad.


Jan 17, 2022, 1:52 PM

The way Rick left, I wouldnt want him back. But I'd like to have a coach that can recruit and get the guys in to win consistently.

This year Ive been impressed with Hall, Collins and all others but they lose a game to BC like we did hurts. I feel for the players and coaches. We needed to win that one...had the fans, home court, weekend game, and had a big lead.

Man, that one hurt!!

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ALL coaches should be paid on what their product is.***


Jan 17, 2022, 3:06 PM [ in reply to Tennessee pays Barnes roughly double what we pay Brad. ]



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Great, so we can agree that Brad is paid fairly.


Jan 17, 2022, 3:29 PM

Average ACC finish the last four years = 6.25

His raise a few months ago pays him tied for 6th in the ACC (tied with Pitt’s Jeff Capel).

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Rick Barnes *quit* on Clemson because he didn’t think he


Jan 17, 2022, 1:58 PM

could get the job done in the ACC.

When a coach or a player quits on Clemson, they need to stay gone.

Rick Barnes would be just another Mac Brown without the “nice guy” gene. In fact, he’d probably be more like Bobby Petrino.

No “do-overs” ...

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Re: Rick Barnes *quit* on Clemson because he didn’t think he


Jan 17, 2022, 2:26 PM

That's the closest I have seen of anyone mentioning "Rally Cat" with regards to Barnes's exit. Nice comparison to Petrino. :)

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Speaking of Rally Cats


Jan 17, 2022, 3:33 PM

Poor Bruce Martin.

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