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The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 9:16 AM
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Is because high powered people in congress and the media encouraged and incited these riots when Trump was president. They took the rioters side over Trump’s and now they have become emboldened and enabled even more.
Some quick examples:
Kamala: she supported and promoted a bail fund for rioters. After months of riots she said they won’t stop and shouldn’t stop
AOC: She posted nice graphics on what you should bring to a “protest” included in these graphics said to wear clothing that hides your face and to turn off your phone so you couldn’t be tracked
Pressley: “there should be more unrest in the streets” after months of riots
The penguin Nadler: Antifa is a myth
Maxine Waters: her most recent comments inciting riots.
This is just off the top of my head and there are too many examples to count.
Here is an example of the media mocking and making fun of Trump when he mentioned they threw cans of soup. The democrat party chose rioters destroying American cities over agreeing with trump. This is why trump derangement syndrome is very much a thing.
https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1383980500734251014?s=21
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 9:52 AM
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You keep posting links from Jack Posobiec.
You know, the guy who invented Pizzagate. But no, you're not radicalized or brainwashed at all.
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The rioters are throwing something through those windows
Apr 19, 2021, 10:03 AM
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Perhaps it's just rocks - obviously a nice hardy chunky soup would work best.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Dude, he posted a video clip. Is the video not true because of the person who posted it? Is my post with factual information not true because it includes a video clip posted by him that’s real?
I didn’t follow him then and didn’t pay any attention to pizzagate. I don’t really know what that is.
Do you consume news on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NYT, The Washington post? Because they promoted and covered the Russian collusion hoax conspiracy theory that was incredibly easy to debunk.
I know you don’t think the media has enabled these riots because you are a complete dunce. And you are part of the problem. You sided with the rioters over trump because you have TDS.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 10:58 AM
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Then where the eff are you getting those links?
It tells me which end of the sewer you're swimming in, for sure. Dude couldn't even hold a security clearance...under Trump.
Nothing wrong with the clip itself, just where you linked in from. Tells me pretty much everything, because it's getting to be pretty much habitual with you...and you seemingly don't even know this about yourself. And then you turn around and froth at the mouth about objectivity.
Lordy. Forgive me if I decline to take your intellectual capacity seriously. You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, for sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec
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Why don’t you quit complaining about sources
Apr 19, 2021, 11:03 AM
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:13 AM
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You are a complete idiot man. I follow the guy ON Twitter. I curate my Twitter follows to give me the best news coverage. I follow this guy, I follow left wing crazies, I follow moderates, and I have my set 5-6 Twitter follows that shoot it straight. Do you not know how Twitter works?
You are taking maybe 2-3 posts by me that contain a tweet from him and trying to say I post his tweets all the time. Go back 4 years of my posts and let me know how many of his tweets I have shared. And then show me if said tweets are false. And then kindly ####.
You are arguing sources instead of facts because you don’t like the facts. You don’t like that when trump is proved right because you are a crazy person with TDS.
Do you not think the media/left wing radicals have enabled this rioting?
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:30 AM
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FWIW, I do. I think there's way too many far leftists in the party who seems confused about their oaths of office and the fact that they represent all Americans and they raised their hands and pledged to uphold the laws and Constitution of the United States. Kind of hard to do that when you're also telling people to go out and show out on the street out of the other side of their mouths. Those people, IMHO, should be stripped of their committee assignments, in much the same manner as Marjorie Taylor Green was, and if they won't knock it off, they need to be removed from Congress.
That doesn't change the fact that you're full of sh!t. You're a radicalized, indoctrinated mind who no longer remotely seems to believe in the concept of Democracy anymore, and you believe more than 55% of Americans are an actual enemy. Given the chance to take franchise away from us, I think you absolutely would.
You are a dangerous fool. My own opinion. You have a lot of company.
Do I believe the "mainstream" media has played a role in that, especially cable news like CNN and MSNBC? Also yes. (Not nearly as bad as "conservative media", which has clearly zapped you and a bunch of others truly loopy.) But yes. They continually blur the line between advocacy and straight reporting, between opinion hosts and anchors, and IMHO we desperately need to return to the "equal-time" laws that we got away from in the '80's that started the leftward drift of the media...and allowed Fox and even more vicious offshoots like OAN/Newsmax to get into the media ecosystem. So yeah. Won't give the "media" a free pass either.
Hope that clears things up.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:33 AM
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:44 AM
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This paragraph is actually insane.
“That doesn't change the fact that you're full of sh!t. You're a radicalized, indoctrinated mind who no longer remotely seems to believe in the concept of Democracy anymore, and you believe more than 55% of Americans are an actual enemy. Given the chance to take franchise away from us, I think you would”
I believe in democracy, I don’t believe that 55% of Americans are the enemy. I don’t want to take anything away from you, you clown.
What are you even talking about?
The radicalized and indoctrinated people are the ones destroying American cities in the name of racial justice. They are the same ones that the media and YOU have covered for during the last year because you aren’t capable of agreeing with trump. Do you live in the same world that I do? Holy crap, you are incredibly dumb and brain washed. Wow.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:47 AM
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You cannot be a culture warrior and a Trumpist and live on the same planet with the rest of us, man.
You just can't.
The whole essence of Trumpism is conflict, p!ssing off - and usually, p!ssing on - others. How is it you somehow missed that?
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:51 AM
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 12:12 PM
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At some point folks collectively have to take a breath.
Right, left, black, white, brown.
I see the left pointing fingers. I see the right pointing fingers. I see everybody competing for the position of Biggest Victim.
I don't see a lot of people advocating solutions. I've proposed several neutral solutions, myself. Reversion to equal-time laws, appointment of Justices every two years, using open source software (not humans) to generate Congressional districts.
https://www.districtbuilder.org/ DistrictBuilder | The Free and Open Source Redistricting Tool DistrictBuilder is a free redistricting tool that empowers the public to draw better maps. Pick any state, draw your map, and make your voice heard for fair districts. Down to block level. All with an intuitive interface powered by a decade of redistricting experience. DistrictBuilder | The Free and Open Source Redistricting Tool DistrictBuilder is a free redistricting tool that empowers the public to draw better maps. Pick any state, draw your map, and make your voice heard for fair districts. Down to block level. All with an intuitive interface powered by a decade of redistricting experience.
I'd explore re-weighing the Senate; it's outdated and doesn't reflect our current society; Wyoming should not have the same number of Senators as Texas or California, sorry. We should definitely make our elections ranked-choice to get rid of this vicious binary obliterate-the-opposition mentality we have going and turn our politics into more of a marketplace.
Fake news is a plague. We need to seriously explore some real solutions for getting rid of it. Regulating the Internet and Social Media fairly is also a must; the Santa Clara principles are a good first start, IMHO:
https://santaclaraprinciples.org/
Anyhow, those are my own ideas. oldmountainmike just seems to want to rage on and on about endless culture war crap, doesn't even seem to know I'm not a lib, and can't get beyond raging at the media and the left and re-tweeting freaking Jack Posobiec. It's tiresome. It's like: dude.
Freaking evolve. Are you, like, twelve?
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 12:21 PM
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 12:41 PM
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Chuck the earmarks too. All in favor.
The riots and violence are symptoms. It's a sign stuff is broken and isn't being addressed, and people are acting out.
Keep in mind, the Senate was a compromise, and one that was enacted several hundred years back. We got the Senate because it was a way to guarantee that small states wouldn't be overwhelmed by the big ones once they got into the Union.
The problem is, it's actually worked the other way around. It's actually given the small states too much power. If you doubt it, driven through Kentucky sometime. The roads are amazing. Our man Mitch MConnell has parlayed his position as Senate Majority leader into quite a lot, for the citizens of Kentucky, lo these last eight years. I'd say West Virginia is about to enjoy a similar windfall.
Some of that's healthy - I mean, you don't want to turn America into Hunger Games, the outlying districts all slaving for the Capital - but man, when Vermont (population 623,347) has the same two Senators as California (population 37,368,078) and Wyoming (population 563,626) has the same two Senators as Texas( population 29,360,759) something isn't working, there. That isn't a well-crafted legislative body, you know? Especially when the District of Columbia (population 712,816), and Puerto Rico (population 3, 189,068) have no Senators at all.
So something's amiss there. Clearly that is a broken system, and again, it has contributed to the vicious, stalemated partisanship that's not serving anyone, and so bitterly divided this country. Again...put aside the "R" and "D" labels...and start asking, in a total neutral system, how might a Senate actually be better constructed, to better represent everybody, and more fairly weigh the bigger states against the smaller ones?
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 12:50 PM
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 1:17 PM
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Oh, it's broken. It's just that the argument isn't necessarily what people think it is, if you follow.
People think the issue is about "racial justice."
I think the real problem is actually that "racial justice" isn't about "sides" or "struggles". I think the real problem is that what we've actually got is these sort of self-sealing hermetic bubbles of culture...and sort of instilling a tribal us-and-them mentality on those in and out of that bubble. Foxworld is a lot more obvious about it but CNN/MSNBC, in their own haughty, subtle way is doing it too, portraying themselves as the "right-thinking side of history" and the "enlightened part of society".
The left has always liked to make things about race. Up until Donald Trump, the right has always tried to insist they were color-blind. Donald went the other way, leaned hard into first wink-and-nudge white supremacy, and later on in his presidency, almost outright and in the open unapologetic white supremacy. His almost stated reason for his alliance with Russia: because they're white. And Fox went right along with him.
Bad, bad, bad. That's a great way to lose that argument, if you're the GOP. Marjorie Taylor and Matt Gaetz tried to outright launch themselves the Anglo-Saxon Caucus yesterday for a minute.
Whatever, that's split America right down the middle in a way we haven't seen since the Civil War. We really need to knock that crap off, IMHO, and stop allowing the more divisive voices to stop feeding it. Because what CNN/MSNBC are saying is basically "you dumb rednecks"...and we need to get them to stop...and see the 40% of the country for whatever reason they stopped seeing a good ways back. And what Fox is saying is, well, that other thing...and we don't need that either. Because that doesn't lead anywhere we wanna go either.
Again, I think equal-time laws would help us, here.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 1:45 PM
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 2:07 PM
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The left has plenty of hosts that people are listening to...in the rare twenty seconds a day they trouble to tune in for news at all. Their names are Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Andrew Cuomo. They have plenty more amplifying them on social media. That's probably small potatoes compared to their cultural amplifiers - hip-hop, movies and movie stars, pop stars, influencers, late-night comedians like Jimmy Kimmel, James Corden, and especially John Oliver and Trevor Noah. You want to do a culture war, you're always going to lose that battle, because the other side has so many more force multipliers and they're frankly better at it than the right is because they have so many more naturally creative-minded people. The artists are almost all liberals.
Trying to fight that is like trying to push back the tide with your hands. Equal-time helps the right a lot more than it hurts, I promise, because it gets it more air time in key demos where it's actually heard.
Right now the right isn't being heard at all with most key demos. It's just plain off the air completely. The right just exists in its own little bubble...and only in its own little bubble.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 2:57 PM
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"They also win the Twitter crowd that doesn’t have two
Apr 19, 2021, 3:01 PM
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nickels to rub together."
That's an interesting distinction.
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Re: "They also win the Twitter crowd that doesn’t have two
Apr 19, 2021, 3:04 PM
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LOL
Apr 20, 2021, 9:19 AM
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Most of Twitter are millennial and gen z losers who serve lattes at the Starbucks or are just unemployed.
I'll assume you have some great data to back this one up.
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Re: LOL
Apr 20, 2021, 9:53 AM
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I just shook my head at that point and quit.
Those are votes. Stats indicate the GOP's basically losing a percentage point a year by demographics. In 2022 the GOP's position is going to be 2% worse from a standing start than it was in 2020; in 2024 it's going to be 4% worse. America's getting browner. The GOP's increasingly becoming a party of angry white grievance, pandering to an increasingly older and older demo.
But no, eff equal-time. Things are going great for the GOP.
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 20, 2021, 5:44 AM
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So Trump is a white supremacist? I try to avoid the name calling but that is a foolish statement and a disgusting lie!!
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Re: The reason BLM and Antifa are still rioting
Apr 19, 2021, 12:10 PM
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This sentence might be even more insane.
“ You cannot be a culture warrior and a Trumpist and live on the same planet with the rest of us, man.”
Who said I am a “culture warrior”? So me wanting journalists to act like journalists instead of political operatives (both sides) makes me a culture warrior? Me not wanting Riots in every major city makes me a culture warrior? I think you are just a confused little boy.
And you continue to call anyone that supported trump a trumpist. I wouldn’t consider myself that. In fact I kind of wish he would go away and not try to run for office next election.
Coming from someone who voted for sleepy joe is laughable. He Is a racist, senile, corrupt, and a creep. Much more so than trump.
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More peaceful protesting
Apr 19, 2021, 11:04 AM
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That guy didn't bring soup to throw. He practiced that bit
Apr 19, 2021, 12:57 PM
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for 2 days, showed up on site, found the CNN "journalist", and then did his bit for the camera.
He's just looking to get more hits on his SnapTok or FaceChat pages so he can profit off of folks.
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Came here to say this. This was a joke that went over
Apr 20, 2021, 8:54 AM
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some folks' head. It was literally viral last week.
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