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Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 22, 2022, 11:53 AM
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That phrase was never coined to mean, if we aren't #1 and the best in the country every year, then we're not achieving the "standard".
Best is the standard applies to both the program and individual effort. Put forth the best every workout rep, every practice, every play, and every game. It means applying yourself to the best of your ability. Play to your best, as the target.
Standard and target are synonymous here. Just because we're not #1 in the country doesn't mean we're not playing the best we can. I see players and coaches busting their tails in the pursuit of victory. Nobody is slacking and they're giving it their best. That is the standard. Nothing below giving it your best is acceptable.
Reaching for the best as a program is a never ending journey. Only if we win a national title in any given year, then we can say the program is the absolute "best", but whether or not we actually win a national championship every year doesn't change the fact "best" is still the standard for every coach, player, and play.
Win or lose. 10-3 or 15-0. At 10-3 after 4-3, I would say we got the best out of the program last year, and obviously. Regardless of wins and losses, to be the best we can be is still the standard.
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Re: Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 22, 2022, 12:19 PM
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Well said.
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Re: Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 22, 2022, 12:27 PM
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I agree 100% and have wanted to write something similar every time I see the posts you reference
Thank you for saving me the time
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The players, generally, are doing their best.
Nov 22, 2022, 1:35 PM
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Some coaches, though, are not meeting that standard yet they are not replaced. Thus, doubts begin to seep in on that “standard”. I can’t speak for others, but the overall performance, regardless of wins and losses, each year is how to measure that standard as you have stated. However, I differ from you in believing that some of our coaches have met that standard for a few years. Our decline in performance, regardless of wins and losses, will continue with no changes in the coaching staff.
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Please provide examples and details.***
Nov 22, 2022, 4:09 PM
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It has been said repeatedly and I’m sure you know who
Nov 22, 2022, 7:56 PM
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I am talking about, but we can start with Grisham. Great guy, Clemson alum, but he has had multiple years to recruit or develop or coach his WRs into respectability and he is falling short of a “best” standard.
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Freshman [-79]
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Oh ok. You did say "some" though.
Nov 23, 2022, 1:41 PM
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And all you really did there was mention a name.
This is Grisham's 3rd year as WR coach.
We had the most productive receiving season in Clemson history in his 1st year.
In his 2nd year, we had a completely dysfunctional QB. You cannot blame the lack of receptions on WRs. We completed 228 passes for 2,485 yards and a 55% completion rate. We were 99th in passing offense.. The QB struggled mightily, but that had nothing to do with WRs.
In 2022, TGs 3rd season, we have more receptions (231) and more passing yards (2,511) in 11 games than we had in 13 last year. We're up to a 64% completion rate. While only rated 69th, this is based on yards per game. Most everyone realizes we are having to utilize mostly the short game because it's what the QB can handle.
Did we have a Justyn Ross or Tee Higgins for the most productive passing season in program history? Nope. Cornell Powell went from 15 catches in 2019 to 53 in 2020, and Amari went from 30 catches in 2019 to 77 in 2020!
What was the only difference in 2020? Jeff Scott was gone and TG was coaching these guys to the incredible improvement in receptions. That, and we had some dude named Trevor Lawrence throwing dimes all over the field, and he wasn't scared to gove his receivers a chance to get the ball on 50/50 balls.
Therein lies the discernable difference... the QB. Love DJ, but he's not an elite QB. Insert a great QB, and ALL of the receptions and yards per pass go up by a large chunk. The QB is the difference. Again, we don't have a WR on Tee Higgins level, but we do have (5) top-20 WRs and a top-50 guy on the roster. The main issue? QB.
You can't coach WRs to make a topped-out QB any better. The WRs are making plays when given a chance.
Long story short, saying Grisham isn't targeting, "best is the standard" isn't accurate at all. Maybe you didn't understand the OP?
We don't have any coaches who aren't striving for "best is the standard". We have a great staff that's busting their tails for our university. And by the way, we're 10-1 and 8th with an outside shot at the CFP. Who in their right mind would say the coaching staff of that team isn't giving their all and striving for best is the standard. Simply put, you don't have 10-1 teams if the coaches are doing a great job.
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Re: Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 22, 2022, 5:48 PM
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Here comes the crowd that’s literally been saying this to scream “NoBoDy iS eVen SaYinG tHiS”
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Re: Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 22, 2022, 5:57 PM
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Anyone who thinks “the best” showed up in South Bend needs their eyes checked. We could have pulled a Noreville and saved half a million bucks and hid under a balnkie.
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Freshman [-79]
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Welp,, that was a whoosh for you.
Nov 23, 2022, 1:48 PM
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You're one of those dudes who think we need to win every single game and look good doing it, otherwise, somehow best isn't really the target.
You're confused. And to when someone says we'd be better off with Norvell over Swinney, we'll, nothing else needs to be said about that line of thinking.
Best is ALWAYS the standard (target). No teams ever plays their best every single game.
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Re: Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 22, 2022, 6:31 PM
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We're 10-1 and have a bunch of young men on our team that we can be proud of. Dabo does it right.
Go Tigers!!! Beat USC jr.!!!
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it’s an impossible standard
Nov 22, 2022, 6:41 PM
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I think it’s supposed to be; it’s something that always necessitates striving, that requires constant self examination, something that comes from within and therefore cannot be judged or confirmed from the outside. I love it. It’s a great message for kids and competitors.
In a world of infinite possibilities, the best version of yourself is impossible to “know.” If that’s the goal, there’s no room for complacency or self satisfaction. Definitely a lot of faith baked into the whole idea. Not surprising it’s Dabo’s mantra.
We can think whatever we want, but our judgment doesn’t really amount to anything as far as where the coaches and players are at in terms of “the standard.” Only they can decide.
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Re: Seen it a few times now.. people saying we aren't living up to "best is the standard".
Nov 23, 2022, 10:27 PM
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If our fans must have #1 every year then just close down football...But if folks have real concerns about players and coaching then this is what the website is for...nobody here gives a #### about your Turkey recipe or giving a 'Chicken' a hysterectomy! Everyone who has ever played competitive football has seen issues with the Tigers forgetting the tight ends or throwing too many wide receiver screens and not any longer crossing routes! Nobody is even close to perfect...have seen DW4 have a raunchy game a time or two and TL made some bone head plays but mostly good and we recovered when we needed too! One thing we can all agree with is that Dabo is trying to make better young men, give them a great education and send them out into the world with the desire to succeed! I can't really ask for more!
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