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CU Guru [1630]
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The bottom line is Dabo has mismanaged the program this year!
Nov 28, 2022, 5:13 PM
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Dabo, to his credit, has the lifetime protection of 2 NC’s from 4 trips to the CFP Final. He’s a made man.
However, he has mismanaged the program and a less tenured coach without those titles would be feeling the heat right now. At this rate the ten win seasons are gonna dry up if drastic changes aren’t made so the “we have another 10 win season” argument is null and void
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I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 5:14 PM
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we should be 7-5 or 8-4 probably
I don't think most fans have a clue
No doubt Dabo needs to make some adjustments
but we are still 10-2 and going to the ACC champ game and a good bowl for the players and seniors ...
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This is rational.
Nov 28, 2022, 5:16 PM
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TY
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Re: This is rational.
Nov 28, 2022, 5:20 PM
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Controversial thinking for some apparently! I wish my boss based my current year performance on only my best years
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Oculus Spirit [82044]
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I'm sorry for your dropoff.
Nov 28, 2022, 6:04 PM
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 5:21 PM
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Playing in the ACC changes the performance metric significantly. We would be lucky to win 8 in the SEC or Big 12. The ACC is improving, and we are regressing. We need some NFL help on offense. It may just be that the NIL money truck is pulling away and we will never catch up, but We have to do better than Saturday.
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 5:27 PM
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I'm just an alumni fan -- but I do think we should have some very very savvy NFL experience on stafff
like QB coaching, OC etc. even if we promote young coaches and give them a chance we shoud have a BEVY of white haired analysts etc helping scheme etc. Dabo can always shave some money off his salary for that if needed .......
for sure the NIL is changing things rapidly - and our small Alumni base compared to schools who graduate 2x, 3x, our alumni per year are at a numbers disadvantage .... for contributing ....
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 10:29 PM
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Out of all of the posts since Saturday, you make the most sense. I have been thinking similar thoughts that we were ill prepared in both planning and execution in that game. In short, we looked like amateurs against a 2nd year coach with a transfer quarterback.
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So will those issues only get worse as NIL era matures?***
Nov 29, 2022, 6:52 AM
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 5:58 PM
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Most fans can clearly see the fact that DJ will never ever have the ability to get this team back to the playoffs…..not even if he was allowed to stay at Clemson for 20 years and Dabo kept telling us “DJ is our guy”! Most everyone except our coaches could see this last season. Now he has started for an entire second season and this guy is just not mentally or physically fast enough to be successful on a potential college playoff caliber team. The ACC is so weak so our 10 - 2 record is not a true indicator of how good or bad this team is this season. Notre Dame is having a down year but destroyed us. Coots were destroyed by a bad Florida team but beat us at home as 14 point underdogs. Without a mobile QB you will never ever sniff the playoffs. I don’t care how weak your conference and schedule you play. As I mentioned above DJ is not fast enough mentally or physically to successfully compete and win against the top teams. And Notre Dame and Coots are both very far from being top teams!
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 7:23 PM
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Bingo.
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 7:29 PM
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We are 10-2 but both our losses are to 2 horrible out of conference teams. Winning 10 games is not hard playing in the ACC, especially when you out-recruit every single team.
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Please explain how we should be 7-5 or 8-4
Nov 28, 2022, 9:00 PM
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when we have considerably more talent than every team we played this year.
We should be 12-0 right now based on our talent level, but unfortunately our coaches are squandering it.
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^^ Troll Alert ^^
Nov 28, 2022, 9:02 PM
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No feed Troll.
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Re: I would say he has out performed by a lot
Nov 28, 2022, 9:06 PM
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10 wins in the ACC with our talent is a below average season. Thats the unfortunate truth. We are the weakest conference in football this season. Another poster compared us to VT under Frank Beamer. Celebrating 10 win seasons until we were too far gone to recover. We aren't there yet without changes that outcome is still very possible. Also, not a coot. Proud Alumni callin' it like I see it.
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it didn't just start this year.....
Nov 28, 2022, 5:15 PM
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cracks in the foundation were shown starting in the 2019 LSU game
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Re: it didn't just start this year.....
Nov 28, 2022, 5:22 PM
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Or even the Ohio State game before the massive come back. We almost lost that one badly
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Re: it didn't just start this year.....
Nov 28, 2022, 5:47 PM
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That 2019 LSU game was Streeter’s OC debut. He failed miserably and yet was still made OC when Tony Elliot left.
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Re: it didn't just start this year.....
Nov 28, 2022, 6:00 PM
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I though Streeter was the OC during the Sugar bowl when Elliott tested positive for COVID.
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Re: it didn't just start this year.....
Nov 28, 2022, 9:28 PM
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You’re right! I dont blame him for mixing up the trips to NOLA! I was at both and left heartbroken both times. Streeter took over vs Ohio State revenge match in super dome the following season. LSU was the NC prior year
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Re: The bottom line is Dabo has mismanaged the program this year!
Nov 28, 2022, 5:15 PM
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Yeah 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15-win seasons always put you on the hot seat.
Just stop!
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Re: The bottom line is Dabo has mismanaged the program this year!
Nov 28, 2022, 5:18 PM
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I said this year! No reason why we aren’t undefeated. Had we lost both games because the opponents were better I’d be ok with the 2 losses
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Orange Blooded [3655]
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NIL has changed the whole landscape - start contributing to
Nov 28, 2022, 5:17 PM
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Clemson NIL programs and we'll see what happens
Put your money where your post is
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I'll evolve to NIL when Dabo.........
Nov 28, 2022, 5:20 PM
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evolves to the portal and stops treating this program like a job factory for his underqualified friends, family, and former players.
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Re: I'll evolve to NIL when Dabo.........
Nov 28, 2022, 8:11 PM
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Yeah. I want me one of them Transfer Portal Watcher jobs
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The Obvious Issues we have now have been brewing for 3 yrs
Nov 28, 2022, 5:29 PM
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The warning signs have been:
QB development has been poor for 3+ years. Trevor did not improve from his freshman year. Deshaun barely improved from his freshman year. In general, for last two years our overall team performance did not improve throughout the seasons.
For the talent level we have, we have underperformed for 3 years. Our rankings are based on team performance/brand from 2015-2019. This is on the coaching staff, not just one player or one position. Starts at the top and works it way through the coordinators and position coaches.
Of course, the on field performance by each player/coach determines the outcome of each game, but the foundation must be solid and it needs to be re-examined.
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^^one of very few that gets it^^^***
Nov 28, 2022, 5:31 PM
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and probably would've been after his freshman season
Nov 28, 2022, 5:57 PM
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if that was allowed. So that argument doesn't hold water when it comes to did he get better while he was at Clemson. He was as good his freshman year as he was when he left.
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Re: The Obvious Issues we have now have been brewing for 3 yrs
Nov 28, 2022, 5:57 PM
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He excelled in college on pure talent is the argument, in spite of the coaching. Trevor and some NFL QB gurus have talked about all the bad habits Trevor had entering the NFL. Trent Dilfer is one who really took a shot at Streeter and how poor QB coaching is at Clemson. It's all opinions, but worth considering coming off a game where your QB completed less than 30% of his passes and you didn't break 100 yards passing, at Clemson.
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110%er [8984]
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Dabo is extremely loyal
Nov 28, 2022, 6:01 PM
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hard to moan about that
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Re: The bottom line is Dabo has mismanaged the program this year!
Nov 28, 2022, 7:18 PM
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Dabo has to hold his coaches accountable for the performance of their players. He has to make some major changes in off-season.
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Re: The bottom line is Dabo has mismanaged the program this year!
Nov 28, 2022, 7:36 PM
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Coaching, recruiting, talent evaluation, player development, game management, playbook. We have fallen short in all areas. Dabo has some serious soul-searching to do in the off-season and some tough decisions that need to be made.
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Re: The bottom line is Dabo has mismanaged the program this year!
Nov 28, 2022, 8:58 PM
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What an imbecilic comment.
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Brent Venables and Jeff Scott
Nov 29, 2022, 6:17 AM
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made Dabo
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Re: Brent Venables and Jeff Scott
Nov 29, 2022, 6:46 AM
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Tony Elliott gets no credit?
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