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The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...
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The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

as we know it. All they had to do was enact a P.R. war with the NFL: point to the league as the reason kids can’t “get paid” due to the three years removed rule, and force them to start a minor league system instead of using college as their free system. That would have saved the system and there would be no name, image and likeness battle, as there is today. Just like college basketball. The big difference is that most top talent for football isn’t ready for the NFL and college- and a free education- is a much better option than $40k per year to play professional minor league football.

But the NCAA did not act. They waited for the system to crumble, and it inevitably will in just a few years. They are a slow, short-sighted, and dull organization that missed the opportunity to preserve an incredible game. We have them to thank. College football will soon be a professional entity, with boosters as the defacto owners and the schools with the biggest and most powerful boosters and largest alumni and fanbases dominating the game.

Pandora’s Box is open and there is no turning back.

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I suspect this is right...***


Oct 31, 2019, 12:07 AM



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Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 31, 2019, 12:19 AM

Well at least we should be ok , because we are able to afford having the highest paid coach , highest paid coordinator , and the best facilities in the country.

I think we’re going to be alright .

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Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 31, 2019, 9:23 AM

But as it is now, momentum brings the money. The way it will be is that money will buy momentum. The Michigan, Ohio state, Southern Cal, Texas, and Notre Dames of the world will spend to no end to dominate the league.

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Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

I agree with almost everything you say, except this is the best case scenario for returning to the collegiate model

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after it goes thru the ringer, I'm saying. Sorry***


Oct 31, 2019, 2:11 AM



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Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 31, 2019, 3:30 AM

The NCAA didn’t act because they couldn’t figure how to make money out of letting kids go to the NFL early.
If they can put themselves in charge of laundering all the “amateur” trust funds or whatever, they’ll be rich.
I mean richer. .

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The NCAA are


Oct 31, 2019, 6:04 AM

The member institutions. If they want a NCAA, they have one. If they'd rather go in another direction, they can.

Like the newest technology, it's not always best to own the first iteration...or first few, even. In this case, the current route is designed to do two things:
1. Consider solutions within the priorities of the institutions
2. Quiet the howling 'crowds'.

It's likely premature to wail or chime in over this...and certainly premature to drive a nail in collegiate sports coffin. The finish line is a long way off and at this point, opinions are vastly over-rated...a lot like AP polls and PF's sputum.

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Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 31, 2019, 7:52 AM [ in reply to Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football... ]

The NCAA does not "let kids go to the NFL early" or prevent them from doing so.

The NFL, in conjunction with the collective bargaining agreement made with the NFL Players Association (the player's union), has age limit rules.

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You misspelled


Oct 31, 2019, 7:02 AM

corruption.

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Re: The NCAA’s incompetence will end college football...


Oct 31, 2019, 7:44 AM

Also, the NCAA should have stood up for their own rules and said: "California...any athlete that gets paid for their likeness or endorsements, or who hires an agent, is a professional athlete and therefore ineligible for NCAA participation. That goes for the rest of the state who've said it as well. P.S. we have the exclusive rights to TV coverage for all your sports for the next 20 years."

I'd like to see how that game of chicken plays out.

Remember, the NCAA does not prevent ANYONE from getting paid anything they can get paid for, except that if you get paid in certain ways you cannot play in their NCAA games.

Wanna get paid and not be limited by NCAA but still play football before you meet the NFL age limits?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_and_Canadian_football_leagues

Professional outdoor leagues:

United States National Football League, 1920–

Originally American Professional Football Conference, American Professional Football Association (1920–1921)
Merged with the American Football League (1960–69)

Canada Canadian Football League, 1909–

Formed from Interprovincial Rugby Football Union (1909) and Western Interprovincial Football Union (1936).

Mexico Liga de Fútbol Americano Profesional, 2016–

Professional arena/indoor leagues:

United States Arena Football League, (6 active teams and 1 on hiatus) 1987–2008, 2010–
United States Indoor Football League, (10 teams) 2009–

Formed from United Indoor Football and Intense Football League

United States Champions Indoor Football, (7 teams) 2015–

Formed from Champions Professional Indoor Football League and Lone Star Football League

United States National Arena League, (6 teams) 2017–
United States American Arena League, (10 teams) 2018–

Formed from Arena Pro Football and Can-Am Indoor Football League

United States American West Football Conference, (4 teams) 2019–

Current semi-professional leagues

Canada Northern Football Conference, 1954–
United States Empire Football League, 1969–
Canada Alberta Football League, 1984–
United States New England Football League, 1994–
United States Northeastern Football Alliance, 1997–
United States Rocky Mountain Football League, 1997–
United States Central Football League, 1999–
Canada Maritime Football League, 2002–
United States Minor League Football Association, 2003–
United States Big Northeast Football Federation 2007–
United States Florida Football Alliance, 2007–
United States Oklahoma Metro Football League, 2007–
United States Regional American Football League 2007–
United States Five Star Football League 2010–
United States Gridiron Developmental Football League 2010–
United States Atlantic Football Association, 2011–
United States Atlantic Coast Football Alliance, 2009– [1]–
United States The Spring League, 2017–
United States East Coast Football Alliance, 2011–
United States American 7s Football League, 2014[2]

Developmental leagues

The Spring League, 2017–
Your Call Football, May 2018–

Amateur to Professional Developmental Football League

Amateur to Professional Developmental Football League is an amateur developmental American football league primarily in the Southeast based in Dothan, Alabama of 35 teams. Players are not paid to allow them to keep their college eligibility.[3] The league is a nonprofit corporation. Their season starts in March.[4]

Bernard Hunt and his wife has purchased a franchise in another developmental league, but were disillusioned with the lack of carry through by the league. So in 2012, Hunt founded the Amateur to Professional Developmental Football League.[3]

In 2018, the P-Town Wreckaz Semi-Pro Football Team moved to the league from the X-Treme South Football League. Also, two other teams were added to the league.[4]
Gridiron Developmental Football League

Gridiron Developmental Football League is a developmental American football league using the franchise model. The league has almost 32 teams.[3]

The Gridiron Developmental Football League was developed while the founder, Charles Thompson, was recovering from a traumatic work injury. In 2010, he thus founded the league in Memphis, Tennessee. [3] After playing 2017, its first season, in the Middle Tennessee Football League and the Mid-South Football Alliance, the Middle Tennessee Bulldawgs moved to the Gridiron Developmental Football League for the 2018 season.[5]
Rivals Professional Football League

The Rivals Professional Football League' is a developmental semi-pro American football league owned by Quentin Hines and consisting of eight teams. Quentin Hines is the grandson of Willie Horton and briefly played football for the New England Patriots.[6]

The Rivals Professional Football League' was founded by Quentin Hines in 2012.[3] A Toledo team was considered for the initial set of teams, but could not come to term to lease the Glass Bowl with University of Toledo. The league expect attempt to get a team there for season two in 2015.[7] As of February 2014, Hines had announced his league with five teams: the Akron Blaze, Chicago Kings, Detroit Cougars, Indianapolis Racers and Southern Michigan Mustangs. At the time, Hines indicated that he was sole owner and would continue as such before selling franchises.[8]

The league planned to be operating in April 2014 with four teams, two in Detroit and one each in Ohio and Illinois.[6] The league held tryouts in April 2014, held a draft of those that made the cut on April 26 at Mount Clemens High and begun play in May.[9] The Akron Blaze selected Marquelo Suel, a 24-year-old Akron University receiver, as the first pick of the draft.[10] Only two teams played in the first season, the Macomb County Bearcats and Detroit Cougars. The Cougars had Anthony Baskins straight from the Indianapolis Colts and Daunte Akra, a 2011 Detroit Lions player, also played for the league in the first season.[11] The first year championship game was broadcast on WADL-TV 38 with ESPN Radio (105.1 FM) broadcasting other games.[12] The Detroit Cougars were first season champions under Coach Wendell Jefferson.[13] 14 league players end up getting the attention of the NFL or CFL with three trying out with a NFL team, one signed with a NFL team and 10 getting CFL workouts.[14]

In April 2015, the league indicated more Michigan teams, the Pontiac Generals and Oakland County Racers, with two stadium as game sites, Mt. Clemens High School and Wisner Memorial Stadium in Pontiac.[11] The Generals and Racers would share Wisner as their home field for at least the 2015 season with the Racer looking for another location.[15] Jefferson was named the General's head coach.[14]

Later the league added four teams in Miami. Pontiac Generals player Keith Franklin was signed to the CFL Saskatchewan Rough Riders.[3]

Players are paid based on performance with base salaries of $500 to $1,500 for veterans. The league is targeted for those that have exceed their college eligibility or had no opportunity to play at the college level.[3]

The league owns all teams[6] with a 50 slot roster plus practice squad.[12] The league has four teams in Detroit who play a fall season and four teams in Miami who play a spring season.[3]

Planned leagues in North America

United States National Gridiron League (United States), proposed to begin in 2020 (Indoor)
United States XFL, proposed to begin in 2020
United States Freedom Football League, proposed to begin in 2020
United States Pacific Pro Football, proposed to begin in 2020
United States America South Football Alliance, proposed to begin in 2020 (Semi-Pro)

Spring League of American Football

Spring League of American Football is a proposed spring league of American football expected to consist of eight teams to start play by 2019 or 2020. Executives involved in forming the league included former Madison Square Garden media executive Rex Lardner[17] and Chief Financial Officer Robert Pollichino.[18]

Spring League of American Football (SLAF) was announced by September 2016 with an expected 10 teams.[18] By January 2018, the league was looking for an investment of $100 million thus pushing its first season with eight teams back to 2019 or 2020.[17]

The league had originally split the country into 10 zones for the franchise based in the zone which would draw player from the colleges and high schools in the zone to have ready rivalries. Players must have their college eligibility expired to try out. Team owners would be able to place their team any where in the zone. The season would run from April to July for 10 games plus playoffs. Rules would mirror the NFL's except for overtime rule for which they will use college's.

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By 2021 Clemson won't even have a football program


Oct 31, 2019, 8:04 AM

Sounds like you've got it all figured out.

Thank goodness that folks like you are willing to share your opionions so we can be well informed. :)

It's been fun logging into Tigernet these past couple of days to see all of the usual hysterical-personalities coming out of the woodwork.

Honestly, it's been an informative a roll-call of the kind of people you don't want in a supervisory postion at work, who's not an effective leader, who not to follow into battle, and who not to sit in a fox hole with. It's been informative.

The hypoteticals out there are endless, and the hysterical assupmtions people are making based off their worst fears are downright hilarious.

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And a minor league football system wouldn't ruin CFB?


Oct 31, 2019, 8:15 AM

I think that would be far, far worse than whatever solution they come up with to compensate players for their likeness.

The alternative would mean the best players NOT playing CFB which would severely damage the quality of the product and likely result in G5 quality players at the P5 level.

On top of that the college baseball recruiting system is awful. Recruiting players for 2 years and gaining their commitment only to have them drafted and go pro right at the very end just sucks. The baseball model is OK beyond recruiting, but college baseball is also an afterthought in the sports world and I wonder if at least part of that is due to the majority of the top MLB prospects not being involved. Would CFB eventually suffer a similar fate?

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Re: And a minor league football system wouldn't ruin CFB?


Oct 31, 2019, 9:02 AM

You missed the point. It wouldn’t ruin college football because they don’t work. It’s been proven over and over (I.e. XFL and USFL) that Americans are interested in one entity per level of football. So, provide the option for public relations battle...no top talent will take advantage of it. The reason it’s never happened is because the NFL doesn’t want to pay for it and they know it will be a failure. Now, it doesn’t matter because the NCAA has showed their hand and they plan to professionalize college football.

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Re: And a minor league football system wouldn't ruin CFB?


Oct 31, 2019, 9:21 AM [ in reply to And a minor league football system wouldn't ruin CFB? ]

The minor league baseball system is probably older than college baseball and the ones choosing that route over college are generally receiving huge contracts. When they go to play they will be playing against quality competition.

College football is the established standard for competition. It is a large, extremely visible platform for these young men to showcase their talents. I believe that any minor league system would generally be filled with sub standard competition and nobody would know who these guys are. The last effort for a new league lasted less than a full year. Yes it would be more viable with NFL support, but viable does not translate to visible.

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