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The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 4:53 AM
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Is lying poc
Kept on hearing how he crossed state line just to go there.
He drove 30 miles lol
Oh and his dad lives in Kenosha and he works there.
Media made it seem, and what I've believed this whole time, was he drove like 6 hours with a gun just to shoot up some people.
The media is so corrupt
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 7:23 AM
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Nobody said he drove 6 hours except for you. He is an Illinois resident and crossed state lines, period.
You go ahead and get your panties in a bunch anyway.
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 7:32 AM
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Aren't you against borders in general? Or am I thinking if somebody else?
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Yeah, in this case,
Nov 15, 2021, 7:58 AM
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it appears he is accusing someone (the "media"?) of lying by saying a true statement.
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It's times like this...
Nov 15, 2021, 8:06 AM
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I'm reminded that some people here simply can't be reasoned with due to ingrained biases. He literally called them lying pieces of crap for making a statement that he acknowledges to be true that he interpreted to mean something else.
You can't reason with someone like that.
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I think the error is the use of the word "lying".
Nov 15, 2021, 8:08 AM
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If they're saying something true, then it's not "lying". He seems to be saying that someone (again, he just uses the word "media") is implying something sinister about "crossing state lines". I can't comment on that, as I have not watched or read any such statements.
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Re: I think the error is the use of the word "lying".
Nov 15, 2021, 8:30 AM
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You guys are so full of chit. I'm not going to spend my time going to find all the videos of the liberal talking heads implying over and over the kid drove across the country, blah blah blah.
If you can't figure out that saying one thing, e.g., crossing state lines, while NOT saying another, his dad lives and works there, is manipulation then you all are dumb as a ufcking doorknob and deserve what you have coming.
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I'll speak for myself...
Nov 15, 2021, 9:02 AM
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I did not say that no one was implying anything, and I did not say that there was not manipulation.
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 7:33 AM
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Is lying poc
Kept on hearing how he crossed state line just to go there.
He drove 30 miles lol
Oh and his dad lives in Kenosha and he works there.
Media made it seem, and what I've believed this whole time, was he drove like 6 hours with a gun just to shoot up some people.
The media is so corrupt
His entire dad's side of the family lives in Kenosha.
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That makes everything okay then.***
Nov 15, 2021, 7:53 AM
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 7:52 AM
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So he indeed crossed state lines to get there.
You just assumed this: "Media made it seem, and what I've believed this whole time, was he drove like 6 hours with a gun just to shoot up some people."
Maybe the problem isn't the media lying but an error with the user.
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 8:03 AM
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Na the problem is with the media. You are ok with it because you want to see rittenhouse thrown in jail.
You've repeated all the media talking points. White supremacist, saying he went there to shoot people, comparing to much more egregious murders, etc. why don't you just sit this one out? You've already embarrassed yourself enough.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1458060865039749121?s=21
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dang what a bunch of lying ### losers
Nov 15, 2021, 8:07 AM
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and the ####### lefties eat it up.
Clearly the kid is innocent, but you never know with juries. Both sides do their best to get noting but idiots in the jury pool.
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oh he crossed state lines and committed a misdemeanor
Nov 15, 2021, 8:10 AM
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so what, fine him $100 and move on. He is still innocent of any form of murder, it was clearly self defense.
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Did ya read the OP?***
Nov 15, 2021, 8:20 AM
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Just lol. The intention was to make it seem
Nov 15, 2021, 8:36 AM
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Like he drove forever just to shoot people. I remember coming on here and y'all saying how horrible it was he drove so far with a gun. I didn't care enough about the story to dig into anything, like most watching the news
When you just say, drove across state lines, most will think he drove hours to get there. You know it. Just stop with the semantics.
I bet if you did a poll, most would think he shot back people too. Just.a guess. Because they kept calling him a racist
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Re: Just lol. The intention was to make it seem
Nov 15, 2021, 8:50 AM
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Like he drove forever just to shoot people. I remember coming on here and y'all saying how horrible it was he drove so far with a gun. I didn't care enough about the story to dig into anything, like most watching the news
When you just say, drove across state lines, most will think he drove hours to get there. You know it. Just stop with the semantics.
I bet if you did a poll, most would think he shot back people too. Just.a guess. Because they kept calling him a racist
100% on that. My wife and her friend thought he shot black people before I told them. The color of the people who got shot shouldn't matter, but it does. Because the "anti-racist" crowd are the ones that are really racist.
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So you think...
Nov 15, 2021, 8:51 AM
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That if you took a poll of the public, the majority of them would think Rittenhouse shot black people?
Did a major media source say this?
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I would...
Nov 15, 2021, 8:22 AM
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But when people can't even admit that telling a fact isn't actually lying to them, they may not be capable of handling just one reply.
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There you go again.....***
Nov 15, 2021, 8:26 AM
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Re: There you go again.....***
Nov 15, 2021, 8:32 AM
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He tries to convince himself the manipulation of the MSM doesn't exist by finding one sentence embedded in all the BS that is true and turning a blind eye to the rest of the brainwashing. Does it all the time.
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LOL, y'all are literally arguing...
Nov 15, 2021, 8:34 AM
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That the media are liars because they stated a fact that you all admit to be true but you interpreted a different way.
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like anything, the truth seems to be somewhere in the middle
Nov 15, 2021, 8:40 AM
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Opinion can be manipulated by stating a truth without additional logical context. No, it's not a lie, but it's also still manipulated data.
Sort of like if the media said someone were found with 2000 rounds of ammo in their car, and didn't mention that their job was a professional ammo transporter.
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Let's take it back to the OP
Nov 15, 2021, 8:49 AM
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X's complaint and overreaction was a silly one.
Also, X isn't actually watching/reading other media sources. It's another Fox regurgitated talking point.
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Once again wrong. I haven't watch Fox in over 2 yrs
Nov 15, 2021, 8:56 AM
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I have seen fox on clips on Twitter but that's about it. I have paused on their channel while channel surfing if that funny dude is on so maybe you got me there.
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In short
Nov 15, 2021, 9:53 AM
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Why can’t you and Quozzel ever condemn anything that the MSM and the Left do?
I have offered far more criticism of the "MSM" than most people on this board over time, except my criticisms boil down to the real problems and not "it's some grand conspiracy" or "it's state controlled media" or "they told me a fact but I don't like how they told me the fact".
X's OP was absurd. And no, I promise, he's not consuming multiple media outlets.
I'm not sure why you're asking about how I treat both sides (which doesn't apply in a media discussion) when you've said repeatedly that the leftist side is evil and the right are the good guys. That seems to be partisanship that's completely blinded to objective reasoning in these matters.
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Re: In short
Nov 15, 2021, 10:01 AM
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Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 10:06 AM
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I can't speak for Quoz (although I remember his long post history and he has actually leaned more right than he probably realizes), but why would I need to pretend to be something I'm not? I'm not known for mincing my opinions here.
I drive a ####### pick up truck and I own guns. I've voted for Dem in a presidential election once in my life and I regretted it. Most of my votes in my lifetime in all elections have been cast for Republicans.
Why do you want to label me as a leftist so badly?
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 10:16 AM
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Just stating what I and most others have observed from your posts. Obviously you can be whatever you want to be. I just think it’s bizarre to claim to be one thing but then most posts don’t support that.
That's because we're probably dealing with a bigger problem, and that's the mix-up about what traditional ideology stands for. Too many here believe Trumpism is being traditional conservative when actually the two don't mix, and an attitude has emerged among many who subscribe to the far right that if the opinion doesn't match theirs, it's labeled "extremist leftist". Too much has been created in America to believe "if it isn't like me, it must be the extreme opposite". And honestly, I would blame much of the media for that.
NC_Tiger is maybe our greatest example of this. How many times have we seen him label something as Leftist/liberal/Dem simply because he doesn't like it.
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 10:29 AM
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 11:52 AM
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I don't feel like much Trump talk happens here anymore. At least in OPs.
And yes, I agree with the Dems as well. There is definitely a very far-left contingent in Congress that does not fit with traditional liberal or Democratic ideology.
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 10:41 AM
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I criticize MSM sources all the time, you just never seem to hear me. I say all the time: "mainstream media leans too far left and this created the space for the so-called "conservative" media to get into." And I really, really hate how far too many outlets, especially cable news, have crossed the line from reporting into advocacy.
The problem you don't seem to be owning, though, is there is almost nothing in the conservative-media ecosystem that's credible. Conservative media, by and large, doesn't exist to report the news, it exists to blunt the effect of actual news. It lies, pathologically. And nobody holds it remotely to account. It has no journalistic standards because it's not composed of actual journalists, just misinformers and disinformers who don't care jack what the actual truth is. Their job is just to spew so much falsity into the information ecosystem nobody can tell what's true or what isn't anymore. (There's a handful of exceptions. The Bulwark is really good. Fox's own newsroom has some good actual journalists and reporters though the Infotainers down the hall don't listen to them, like, at all. Wall Street Journal, despite being owned by News Corp, has fought really hard to maintain its brand and journalistic standards and Rupert Murdoch's clearly been reticent to kill the one really highly-regarded paper he owns.)
But News Corp. Wow. Fox News was founded by Rupert Murdoch and News Corp - who has openly stated he doesn't much hold with democracy and is himself a third-gen English/Australian blue-blood, not an actual American (he's actually very contemptuous of us though he now holds American citizenship, to get around those pesky laws requiring owners of major media outlets in the USA to be actual Americans) - and by Roger Ailes...who was Nixon's former press consultant and who blamed the press (justifiably) for Nixon's downfall.
Well, Nixon deserved to fall. He was dirty. The press just held him to account.
But Fox News, under Trump, did exactly what Ailes and Murdoch created it to do. It successfully shielded Trump from the consequences of his own misactions. It didn't matter what Trump did, what new lows he achieved. Fox explained it all away, made his behavior and destruction of American norms and institutions normalized. He was impeached twice and deserved it...but the GOP wouldn't break with him because their base - misinformed by Fox News - would not allow it.
And this is where I parted ways, hard, with the Republican Party I'd always supported, because it's gone All In on lies and disinformation, on appealing to the worst impulses of its base in an attempt to drum up fading support...which is always going to be fading, as long as the GOP relies on demographics instead of actual principle. The only time I never voted for a Republican candidate until Trump was my first election, Perot in '92. Biden was the first Dem I've ever voted for...and I don't regret it, no matter how weak and incompetent he's been, because Trump was even weaker and more incompetent and he was literally tearing us apart from the inside. My hope - and it's a fading one - is that Biden can hold on long enough for this Trump Fever to break and for the GOP to regain some form of sanity. Tim Scott as a president wouldn't scare me at all; I'd actually prefer somebody like him. Chris Christie wouldn't scare me. Nikki Haley wouldn't scare me.
Give us a GOP leader who's not out to break the country and turn us on one another, and I'm probably back GOP. But given the savage and uncompromising nature of conservative media, which is basically Morlock TV, is that even possible anymore?
That's where I get really worried, that this "conservative media" beast is completely out of control now and is leading us inexorably to a disaster, Americans turning on one another in the street.
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 10:59 AM
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 11:43 AM
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"Conservative media" is a new thing. Most of these so-called "publications" have been around for less than 10 years. They're dumping on a profession that's got 200 years of history here in the US. The New York Times was established September 18th, 1851...170 years ago. They have won 132 Pulitzer Prizes. That's awe-inspiring.
In comparison Fox News - the father of conservative media here in the US of A - has only been around 25 years...it was established October 7, 1996. Fox News has never won an award for journalism of any kind. No Pulitzers. No Peabodies. No DuPont-Colombia awards. Not even a freaking Emmy.
The two are not even remotely equal.
The vast majority of conservative media is not run by journalists, or held to any sort of journalistic standards. Jack Posobiec is a fine example. He was one of the primary pushers of the QAnon PizzaGate theory, and his lies caused a guy to show up to Comet Ping-Pong Pizza with an AR-15 looking to "rescue" the kids the Dems had allegedly stashed in the basement. (You know, to molest and harvest the fear hormones from). That's a whopper. For that it's a fine thing for Posobiec we have freedom of speech because if anyone had died it'd assuredly have been at least partly on his head...and if he'd been working in actual media the sociopath would have never worked again and been reduced to a warning tale, like Jayson Blair from New York Times or Stephen Glass from The New Republic. More recently a guy from Der Spiegel - Claas Relotius - got caught cooking fake stories, mostly about the US, and he got away with it for awhile because stories about us 'Merricuns fell right into their readerships' own confirmation bias.
This is how Der Spiegel responded. By outing themselves, every lie, every fake fact. Because their credibility is their stock-in-trade.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/claas-relotius-reporter-forgery-scandal-a-1244755.html Claas Relotius Reporter Forgery Scandal A DER SPIEGEL reporter committed large-scale journalistic fraud over several years. Internal clues and research have provided significant evidence against reporter Claas Relotius, who has since admitted to the falsifications and is no longer employed by DER SPIEGEL. Other media organizations may also have been affected.
That's what journalistic standards look like. It doesn't mean you're right all the time. It doesn't mean you never tell lies. It doesn't mean you don't employ bad journalists or people who can indeed be lying sociopaths.
It does mean you do your very best to get it right, and when you get it wrong, you own it.
Conservative media has no such standards. End of story. For the most part it isn't real journalism. It's anti-media, it doesn't police itself, and most of its practitioners are self-promoting narcissists and sociopaths. And every time you click on Posobiec or O'Keefe or any of that ilk, because hey, they might be telling the truth this time, you're proving me right. Those guys have no more right to a viewpoint or to be called a "reporter" or "media" than Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass, or Claas Relotius do...but they're still working (because conservative "media" doesn't caree if somebody's a sociopath), and the disgraced fact-cookers from actual media aren't.
You get caught cooking stories for an actual news organization, you will never work in the field again. Ever.
And you won't own that.
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 12:12 PM
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Re: Maybe this is a better question
Nov 15, 2021, 12:45 PM
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I agree that the end of the equal-time laws started a leftward slide from the media, and that alienated a lot of its viewership and readership. As I said, this created the space that "conservative media" slid into. There's also a city-centric, anti-rural, and often, anti-Southern bias to the MSM's reporting. If the MSM wants to know where its readership and viewership went, it needs to take a hard look in the mirror. Its elitism and bias definitely opened that door.
But conservative media is not like the mainstream media. It has no journalistic standards or traditions, and being a misinformer or worse, a disinformer who deliberately peddles lies (misinformation is bad information, disinformation is deliberately bad information, often directed with malice for political purposes), is not punished.
It is still punished in the MSM. The MSM is hardly perfect and we can list its sins all day, but conservative media is a pure cancer. Jack Posobiec should have never worked again. Instead he's freaking thriving.
There is no universe in which this ends well. The misinformers and disinformers have to be stamped out, the mainstream press needs to be dragged back to center again, and we have to get on the same page about what is or is not media...or our society is literally about to end. January 6th was just a warning rumble; there's far worse coming.
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Re: I don't know how to explain...
Nov 15, 2021, 8:25 AM
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Technically he did. But don't you think some clarification should be thrown in there? Half of his family lives in Kenosha, he works in Kenosha, and is there all the time. Also, him driving 20 minutes to go there ha nothing to do with the fact that he got attacked by a bunch of criminals and pedos and used his rifle for self defense.
Also, nice deflection. No comments on all the embarrassing lies you repeated on here that were spoon fed to you by the mainstream media?
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Maybe you should "sick" someone on me.***
Nov 15, 2021, 8:38 AM
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Re: Maybe you should "sick" someone on me.***
Nov 15, 2021, 9:04 AM
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Another deflection! No comment on how wrong you've been on this the entire time, and more trolling. You are a sad and pathetic individual.
To be clear, can you admit you were wrong when saying the following:
- Kyle rittenhouse was a white supremacist
- Kyle rittenhouse went to Kenosha to shoot protesters
- The Kyle rittenhouse shooting is comparable to the antifa execution style murder.
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Re: Maybe you should "sick" someone on me.***
Nov 15, 2021, 10:17 AM
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"Cata won't respond to me the way I want so I'm just gonna call him names!"
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Re: Maybe you should "sick" someone on me.***
Nov 15, 2021, 10:26 AM
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No, you won't admit you are wrong because you are a gigantic baby and troll.
Here is most of our interaction
Me: you've been wrong about everything in the rittenhouse case from the start
Catadouchebag: NO I HAVENT LIAR PROVE IT TO ME
Me: well here is a thread where you said he was a white supremacist, said he went there to shoot protesters, and compared this case to an execution style murder from antifa.
Catadouchebag: inserts unfunny meme/gif
And won't acknowledge that he was proved wrong.
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Show me the post where I said he was...
Nov 15, 2021, 12:18 PM
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A white supremacist.
Ask CUintulsa® to help since he embarrassingly TUed this post like he usually does.
If I made an assumption that Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, show me so that I can correct myself.
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Re: Maybe you should "sick" someone on me.***
Nov 15, 2021, 10:29 AM
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Since you too dumb to "respond the way I want" maybe you can just respond with a simple yes or no.
- do you still think rittenhouse is a white supremacist?
- do you still believe he wouldn't there solely to shoot people?
- Do you still think this is coming moat able to the antifa execution style murder?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
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He didn't have a gun when he crossed state lines either.
Nov 15, 2021, 7:55 AM
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The entire thing has been a hoax. I don't understand why people believe anything the media says.
Guess what? It's not just this issue.
Big tech has silenced the alt-media who exposed these lies the day after the incident happened.
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 8:09 AM
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Re: The more I hear about Rittenhouse, the more the media
Nov 15, 2021, 8:54 AM
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Did you leave some of the complaint out?
He did in fact go across state lines.
I'm thinking you meant to add "with a gun." Because some media still repeated that over and over after it had been proven the gun wasn't taken across state lines. (Although it's been a couple weeks since I've seen that claim)
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Libs are going crazy bc of the word lie
Nov 15, 2021, 8:58 AM
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How bout this. Mass exaggeration.
What sound further
Going 30 miles to kill people
Or
Going across states lines to kill people
We all know the answer
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Re: Libs are going crazy bc of the word lie
Nov 15, 2021, 9:01 AM
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Yeah, I can see people taking "he drove 15 miles" vs "he drove across state lines" totally different.
"Across state lines" does make it seem like he went well out of his way to attend the protests.
But, in the end, it's still a fact that he went across state lines
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what does the state line have to do anything with the story?
Nov 15, 2021, 9:05 AM
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nothing at all. But it was repeated ad nauseam. It was used to specifically manipulate the listener.
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Re: what does the state line have to do anything with the story?
Nov 15, 2021, 9:10 AM
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Probably because in the beginning, taking a gun across state lines is a crime. Maybe that's why the across state lines story originated.
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CU Medallion [73569]
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watch the clips in this thread
Nov 15, 2021, 9:13 AM
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none of them mention the gun.
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We have witnessed the death of truth. The only thing that
Nov 15, 2021, 10:57 AM
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matters re the homicide charges is whether he was the attacker, or the attackee defending himself. IE, did he - in one instance - pull the trigger only after the guy grabbed Rittenhouse's gun while pointing his own pistol at Rittenhouse's head? (That guy answered that specific question, under oath, with a 'yes', btw.). Nothing else matters.
- His politics dont matter.
- The politics of the attacker dont matter.
- How he got there doesn't matter.
- Whether he legally had the weapon doesn't matter.
None of that matters. Some of those equal other charges, and he will face those, and should. But on the homicide charge they don't matter.
But the media has tried to define truth another way. They have tried to define his guilt/innocence as a matter of "he is a guy we hate because he is a fill-in-the-blank". The more the facts point to self defense, the louder is that message. Headlines and commentary became misrepresentations of court testimony. A POTUS called him a name before he knew anything (he doesn't know anything about anything anyway, but still), because that was the media narrative. This is where we are.
The fault is ours, because we choose to let them do it. We buy a fabricated version of events. We have no one to blame but us. But it is the media who decided to present a lie as reality. Truth, as an ideal, is dead.
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