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Topic: The Biden Economy
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The Biden Economy

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:14 PM
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Took a few months but it’s finally kicking into gear.

- no people for jobs because of the extra unemployment

- cities with double and triple crime rates and about 75% of the police they used to have

- inflation through the roof which is also driving rates up and bonds down

- no gas for the east coast during what should be the start of prime months for the economy

- ME and other hot spots firing up

What next?

Can’t wait for us to start making solar panels. That should fix everything.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:21 PM
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Exactly, under Trump these situations combined would have literally caused civil war. No way the MSM and social media could have kept from sparking a revolution given what has happened in only a few months...

But, alas. All is well in the echo chamber.

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"Echo chamber" lol

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:01 PM
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how many posts saying similar/same things as OP has been posted on this board today?

And how much of it is a reflection of what the right-wing media/social media is saying?

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Re: "Echo chamber" lol

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:04 PM
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Deweather you have zero credibility. Remember when you were arguing there was no way that the sars-cov-2 came from a lab because Nature said so?

It’s looking more and more each day like I was right and you were wrong. Perhaps another WHO investigation will help lol.

No, some people on this board have critical thinking ability and others not so much. I won’t stop trying to help you though.

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Thank you for your valuable input.***

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:12 PM
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Re: Thank you for your valuable input.***


Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:15 PM
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Well you’re on my thread and you were wrong before (a lot) so just trying to be helpful. ??

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More responding to NC_Tiger than being 'on your thread'

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:19 PM
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but I appreciate you trying to help. The relevancy and validity of your posts brought me comfort from the elucidation ;)

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Re: "Echo chamber" lol


Posted: May 14, 2021, 3:01 PM
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No, some people on this board have critical thinking ability and others not so much. I won’t stop trying to help you though.

You say anyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoints is a "lib" or a "fake independent". That's not exactly flexing a critical thinking muscle.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 6:15 PM
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the working man's $$$ and blaming everything bad on Trump or Bush.

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Bruh, all you do is live in an echo chamber.***


Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:59 PM
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It's moronic to rate someone's economy after 4 months.***

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:41 PM
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Oh don’t worry

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:48 PM
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I fully believe it has potential to get much worse

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I just don't see it with the ending pandemic which

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:56 PM
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will be a lucky break for Biden.

Presidents don't affect the economy much, and timing/luck affect their legacies.

Clinton was lucky. Dubya was unlucky. Obama was lucky. Trump was lucky. Carter was unlucky.

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I dunno if you can call Carter's economy "unlucky"

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:59 PM
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when the fed chief insisted on raising interest rates to double digits to kill inflation...and the economy.

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Fed Chair

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:07 PM
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Paul Vockler raised the rates to 15.8% during, gasp, Reagan's administration.

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###### if you do and ###### if you don't. The things


Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:10 PM
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that caused the inflation were in effect when he took office. Pretty good read here.

https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/january-2005/volckers-handling-of-the-great-inflation-taught-us-much


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I hope you’re right


Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:00 PM
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We’ve got a stock market bubble with people speculating on digital currency and SPACS and a housing market that’s way overblown.

Add inflation and an economy struggling to get back on its feet...it’s not a good recipe.

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Re: I hope you’re right

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:14 PM
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you want to see an overblown housing market, a 1200 foot starter costs 300k in my town, but that trend started last fall.

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Even the Dow30 cracked yesterday


Posted: May 13, 2021, 8:28 AM
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Prepare for the slide

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My adult son says men over 50 are bigger drama queens

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:20 PM
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than adolescent girls. My adult daughters say that’s being disrespectful to the teenage girls.

Seriously not sure what affliction has Boomers so prone to overreacting to every tidbit of information. Many friends are so prone and candidly I’m not immune to the occasional symptom. But good grief to drawing conclusions on “the Biden economy”.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:33 PM
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How many years have either one of them worked in the financial industry and dealt with economic data?

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Might be surprised the financial insights others have.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:43 PM
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I won’t diminish yours but at this time it may be premature to evaluate this administration’s economic policy. Not to mention uncontrollable external factors often play huge roles. On Biden’s policies, Q3 2022 will be a fair time to judge with an early read in Q4 2021 _ provided one takes a long term view.

The elections in 2022 will be a good reflection of how Main Street and Wall Street are doing.

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Re: Might be surprised the financial insights others have.


Posted: May 12, 2021, 8:10 PM
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You are correct that external events, when they happen, often overwhelm everything else an administration does. Things like 9/11, COVID-19, ...

And, I agree that we can't judge Biden after this short amount of time, especially with COVID and trillions in stimulus (stimuli) ongoing.

IMO without one of these black swan type events, the Biden economy will not be good in a year or more.

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Why does that matter?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:04 PM
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He didn't claim they were financial experts; he said they were pretty good at pointing out the snowflakishness and sensitivity of a lot of older men.

Seems the assessment is pretty spot on.

We get it. You know finances. Still too early to judge a president on this economy four months in. ####, it may be too early to accurately judge Trump on the overall end result.

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I am doing great.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 4:50 PM
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We went over the bones of my partnership offer yesterday, how much I get, how much that will cost, how long I have to pay off the principle on my buy-in. I am getting in at wholesale. I will be living on the water in no time.

thanks, Biden.

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Did you put balm on that?


Posted: May 13, 2021, 3:10 PM
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Who told you to put balm on that?

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Re: The Biden Economy

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:35 PM
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Are really trying to blame Biden because a private company got hacked and had to shut down their pipeline?



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Re: The Biden Economy


Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:38 PM
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Not blaming about that even though Homeland Security under Trump warned about this a year ago in Feb and gave specific recommendations.

I do blame Biden for the other stuff as well as his lack of response to this. His response so far has been to talk to Colonial and loosen restrictions on truckers...

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:53 PM
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Then why did you put this in there

"- no gas for the east coast during what should be the start of prime months for the economy"


So how is "Biden's economy" to blame for conflict in the ME? Dis gonna be gud.

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Re: The Biden Economy


Posted: May 12, 2021, 6:11 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/re-the-biden-economy-28943086#28943086


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Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:40 PM
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Re: The Biden Economy


Posted: May 12, 2021, 8:14 PM
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I will blame Biden all day long for it because every liberal in the country blamed Trump for everything that happened and a lot of chit that didn't happen.

The current POTUS was stupid enough to say "everyone would still be alive if the President had done his job" about Trump. Did you believe it? Millions did I am sure. Tens, hundreds of millions.

Do I really believe it is Biden's fault (the pipeline thing)? #### no. Colonial Pipeline is a private company and the government is not responsible unless the govvies knew about it before hand. I only suggest silly things like that to make a point.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 10:30 PM
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At least your honest that this is just a snowflake/feigned outrage thread.

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Lol. Libs have really taken to Trumps terms


Posted: May 13, 2021, 8:32 AM
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Fake News and Snowflakes

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

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Is that a selfie?***


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Re: Is that a selfie?***


Posted: May 12, 2021, 11:31 PM
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That's you doing what you normally do when I challenge your narratives.

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Re: Is that a selfie?***


Posted: May 13, 2021, 12:02 AM
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I answered your question, as usual, in my first reply. Then I linked it for you again. Go back and read. You seem to have a problem with that. Probably why you’re sitting on 57%.

I’m waiting for you to start a new thread with that same question next.

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Re: Is that a selfie?***


Posted: May 13, 2021, 6:11 AM
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Try again Bah. You have yet to explain how "Biden's Economy" is responsible for conflict in the Middle East. I'm giving you an opportunity to strengthen and prove your point. Let's hear it.

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Re: Is that a selfie?***

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 10:57 AM
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Guy are you really this dense? I know you’re annoying but you can’t be this slow...unless you’re just trolling.

Biden and the Dem’s signaled support for the Palestinians enabled Hamas to do stupid things. They would have never tried anything like this under Trump.

Any time there are high tensions in the ME, it’s bad for the markets and US economy...not as bad as it used to be though thanks to more energy independence under Trump that Biden is now trying to undo.

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 1:52 PM
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Do you have links to back any of that up?

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I don't think you want to get into arguments about


Posted: May 12, 2021, 6:05 PM
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warnings to the President and lack of response. Trump holds the trump card there.

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Re: I don't think you want to get into arguments about

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 6:08 PM
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You mean the President that is responsible for the 3 vaccines that are pulling us and the rest of the world out of this? Nice try.

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Lol if you believe Trump is responsible for that....then


Posted: May 12, 2021, 6:56 PM
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there's no reason to argue. Like most Trumpies...you're clueless and brainwashed.

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Re: Lol if you believe Trump is responsible for that....then

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:00 PM
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Oh did Operation Warp Speed start under Biden or Obama? I can’t remember.

Remember when Trump said a vaccine would be available by the end of the year and Dems and the MSM laughed at that?

Also which other countries have produced and distributed 3 vaccines?

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That mouth piece President literally had nothing to do with


Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:09 PM
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the vaccine. Like most things with Trump, he likes to claim other's success as his own.

Anyone in office during the pandemic would have gotten the vaccines around the same time because....science.

But he DID delay many of the protocols that could have saved us a lot of heartache and many lives.




Look bottom line is I believe Trump doesn't have the IQ, mannerism, know-how, personality, and professionalism to run a local Walmart....let alone be President of the supposed greatest country in the history of the world. What an embarrassment.

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Re: That mouth piece President literally had nothing to do with


Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:11 PM
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Nice deflections.

Answer my questions.

I’ll add another one:

When has a vaccine ever been approved for use in under a year?

Your opinion of Trump is irrelevant to any of those.

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You do realize why it was done in under a year right?


Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:14 PM
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What specifically did Trump do to make that happen and what makes you think it wouldn't have happened the same for any other administration?

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Also, we both know the answer to you questions.


Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:16 PM
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They just don't help your argument.

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Re: Also, we both know the answer to you questions.


Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:19 PM
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Apparently you aren’t able to write them down.

I’m taking that as you don’t have any answers. You just want to complain about Trump.

It makes you look foolish when you can’t even give the guy credit for that. Many Dems including Biden and his advisors have.

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And yet the majority of people refusing to take the vaccine


Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:23 PM
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are his followers lol.

I know the answers to your dumb questions. They're irrelevant to the facts of his failures to act early on and to engage with the science on masks and social distancing.

Cost my uncle his life.

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Re: And yet the majority of people refusing to take the vaccine

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 7:40 PM
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I’m sorry about your uncle but I’ve known the guidance all along. I’ve done what I’ve needed to protect myself. I’ve also gone out a good bit too. I don’t look to the President or any other politician for health advice.

If his actions or lack thereof were so bad, why are there countries that did worse than us in terms of cases and deaths per million? These are countries with supposedly far superior healthcare systems too like the UK.

So I get you don’t like Trump. As I’ve said, there are a lot of things I could have done without too. Calling Liz Cheney a bitter loser today kinda reminded me of all that.

I still think some of his policies were decent. The vaccine program was one of them.

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Any other president would be worshipped and lauded

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 8:28 AM
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non-stop for what Trump did regarding getting the vaccines up and rolling. If Obama had done the exact same thing, good Lord, the media and celebrities and all Lunge leftists would be swooning and coddling his #######, but Trump? NO! He had nothing to do with it, in fact, HE HINDERED IT! Because big bad orange man.

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Are you kidding?


Posted: May 13, 2021, 2:13 PM
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You trying to say Trump wasn't worshiped and lauded? For that and plenty of other stuff?

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Are you serious?

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 11:52 PM
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Trump was despised and villified by the media, entertainment industry, and vast majority of opinion shapers.

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Re: Are you serious?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 10:13 AM
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And worshiped by right wing media, his followers, and evangelical leaders.

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Of course, I should have specified, worshipped and

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:01 PM
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lauded and supported and had his nutscack coddled by all MAINSTREAM MEDIA, ENTERTAINMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA, AND OPINION SHAPERS outside of rightwing media. That would be NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, 90% of major newspapers and news outlets, 90% of hollywood and the entertainment industry, and 99% of those who control social media. Outside of that, Trump got some credit.

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You know...


Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:48 PM
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Maybe if that many people say you suck (including the overwhelming majority of America), maybe the problem isn't actually them.

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That's just it, Half of Americans say Democrats suck,


Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:56 PM
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in spite of 95% of the opinion-shaping propaganda machine being controlled by them.

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Is this gonna be one of those times where...


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:05 PM
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You say the news media is somehow controlled by Dems and they spew propaganda for them, but when asked what extensive reading/viewing on the media you do, you say you avoid it?

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I watch and read enough to see the obvious, almost


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:23 PM
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gleefully unapologetic bias.

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Sounds like a pretty scientific case study.***


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Case study?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 7:04 PM
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You have completely lost your mind.

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Re: Are you kidding?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:07 PM
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This is completely normal behavior.



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Re: Are you kidding?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:15 PM
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Wow yeah. Look at those people out having a great time on the water sporting those American flags. Crazy.

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Re: Are you kidding?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:17 PM
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Look, we’re going to have to agree that this, while hilarious, is some really odd redneck behavior

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Re: Are you kidding?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:12 PM
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It is hilarious and that’s part of the point of it.

I’m not sure why the need to label as rednecks. That’s a pretty superior view. Many of those people, as evidenced by some of their boats, are wealthy business people, retirees, and professionals. This happened all over the country too, not just red states that you would probably consider backwards and redneck.

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Re: Are you kidding?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:14 PM
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I don’t necessarily use redneck as a pejorative term, being a proud 12th generation South Carolina redneck myself. It’s like our N word, only we can use it to each other.

Flying a bunch of flags for a politician on your boat is weird, no matter where you live or whose name is on the flag.

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Re: Are you kidding?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 3:21 PM
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Never really understood flags for politicians - disgusting.

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Re: Are you kidding?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Looks like more Trump flags than American flags, which pretty much succinctly sums up the problem with Trump fans.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:07 PM
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I realize neither one of you get this but it’s not about Trump. Trump was just the one leading the movement. I couldn’t care less about Trump as an individual. I’m equally happy to support a DeSantis or anyone similar.

Those people all share the same ideals which is mostly limited government, respect for the country, law enforcement and the military and America first. They are having fun because they don’t engage in the continuous self-hate and nonsense that is the Dem party. They believe in freedom and equality (not equity) for all. Those seem like pretty decent concepts to me.

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It was about him.


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:15 PM
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Never in my lifetime has there been a president where so many people made it about loving him over loving America, from all the flags to the parades and such. Do you remember Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, or Carter parades? Were people flying Reagan flags from their boats and cars during his presidency?

It was always about him and their worship of him. We've never seen it, and that's why he was dangerous and had to be removed. I'm sure I don't have to give you a history lesson of what happens when the populous adores a political leader too much.

-They didn't support limited government because Trump didn't. He supported big government and more spending.
-They didn't respect our country. They cheered on the Capitol (or helped raid it), they poo-pooed any thoughts of Russia's meddling in our business, they didn't mind weakening relationships with our allies, and they didn't mind trampling on the Bill of Rights.
-They only respected law enforcement and military if those people in law enforcement and military also adored Trump. If they didn't support Trump, or stood in their way at the Capitol, they turned on them.
-They do not believe in freedom. Anyone who adores Trump does not support our Constitution or freedom. Full stop.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:21 PM
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I agree but never before had the partisan politics reached such a fevered pitch on both sides. People were sick of 8 years of Obama...just as they are getting sick of Biden. Yes he has support now (partially helped by the MSM coverage or lack thereof now) but things seem to be turning for him for the worse and the people that dislike him, really dislike him. When I say him I mean the whole Dem leadership. You are seeing some of that in the “mini-revolt” the past few weeks by some Republican governors.

I think Dems see the writing on the wall that 2022 will be a bloodbath. That’s why they’re trying to push all this stuff through now by whatever means they can.

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Re: It was about him.


Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:30 PM
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But you don't see people waving Biden flags from their porch or having Biden boat parades. The Trump adoration was dangerous and unhealthy.

That really isn't surprising regarding agenda and 2022. History says the minority party will make big gains in the midterm, so it's not shocking they're pushing their agenda. I would be surprised if the GOP doesn't make big gains in 2022.

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Re: The Biden Economy

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:54 PM
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I agree. That’s about as dumb as blaming a president for a virus.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 5:40 PM
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migrant border encounters went from 17,000 this time last year to 178,000 in April. Yes 10 times. Flooding the country with low wage labor.

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Posted: May 12, 2021, 8:16 PM
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There is no border crisis.
- Nadler

Haha.

But this is another opportunity to point out the Biden lie when he said what has happened at the border since February happens every year.

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Re: Let me add to this


Posted: May 13, 2021, 8:26 AM
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Nothing to see here

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 12:03 AM
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We need smaller solar panels that can attract as much energy as large solar panels


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Like Joseph said...


Posted: May 13, 2021, 2:03 PM
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You can't judge a presidency on an economy this early UNLESS that president has done something that very clearly screws it up.

Really, you don't get a true full picture until after the person leaves office. People foamed at the mouth over "Trump's economy," but much of it was an extension of the Obama era. Where Trump did it right that saw immediate effects was A. not doing something stupid to screw it up B. allowing some deregulation that boosted confidence.

But unemployment numbers were already trending up when he took office as well as other factors.

We can't really blame the COVID economic slump on Trump that much, can we?

Too much credit and blame are placed on presidents for the economy. The best thing a president can do is just not #### it up.

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Re: Like Joseph said...


Posted: May 13, 2021, 2:12 PM
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1-3 are him and the Dem Congress directly ######### it up.

4 and 5 are due to both his perceived weakness by overseas actors and his poor response.

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How?


Posted: May 13, 2021, 2:21 PM
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1. Unemployment. How exactly did he and Congress mess it up? The rate hasn't changed much since October.

2. Crime rates in cities? How is that on the federal government? That's on the cities themselves or the counties. What specifically did they do to raise crime and lower police? There isn't any real good data on this yet.

3. The inflation rate is mainly due to our economy and country bouncing back into gear from COVID after last year's slump. Spending is on the rise and thus prices are too. Look at the housing market now. It's nuts. It took a hit last year and now the public is responding. Houses in my neighborhood are going well above what they should and sometimes site unseen.

4. C'mon... how is Biden responsible for a private company getting jacked for ransomware? That's someone taking advantage of a weak system, and they'll do that no matter who is the president. That has nothing to do with the White House.

But if we want to argue it's because we have been soft on Russia lately, I think we know who we can blame for that if we want to blame a White House...

5. How in the sam #### could a decades-old conflict in Israel have anything to do with Biden and the economy? Ain't no one over there saying, "Hey, I'm gonna shoot some rockets now cause Biden!"

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Re: How?


Posted: May 13, 2021, 2:34 PM
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I’ve already explained this multiple times in multiple threads. You can either choose to believe it or not.

1) Biden and Dems deny the extra unemployment is the reason people aren’t going back to work. They also want to provide even more stimulus.

2) Biden and Dems have supported by proxy the defund the police movements in these cities and condemned police repeatedly with DOJ investigations. It is clear that Dems do not support law enforcement. More crime equals people leaving and less tourism.

3) Inflation by definition is more dollars chasing fewer goods. We have fewer goods because of 1 above. We have more dollars because of the ridiculous amount of stimulus and lack of Fed raising rates even though it’s clear that inflation is here. 4.2% is the highest rate we’ve had in years by far. Trump was barely given time to get the economy going when Powell immediately started jacking rates up on him. Obama had zero rates for almost 8 years.

4 & 5) The world knows Biden is a senile old puss who isn’t going to do anything. Same way Russia thumbed their noses at Obama before in Ukraine. When did the Ukraine border build up start again? Same with the Palestinians and Hamas who are supported by Iran...Biden’s new best buddy. Yes there has been conflict in the ME forever but there was relative calm there and even some peace agreements under Trump...even when he recognized Jerusalem the capital of Israel. Hamas didn’t do anything like what they’re doing now.

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Re: How?


Posted: May 13, 2021, 2:51 PM
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1. Ah, you meant the benefits. I guess we can debate that back and forth, but shouldn't businesses provide better compensation and benefits than unemployment if they're wanting workers?

I saw someone post a great example of a brewery that hires people for competitive wages. They had 30 people apply to be a bartender. People want good work. Not just work.

2. No, they haven't supported any "defund police" on the federal level. Biden's admin has been clear from the start they don't support that. And the federal government wouldn't have any hand in that anyway.

Those DOJ investigations are over bad cops doing bad ####. This is all conjecture with no evidence. Please show me concrete proof.

3. Demand can cause inflation but that doesn't necessarily mean lower supply. If demand is high and growing, price will always rise. Again, our production is rocking again after getting stalled last year. That's a major factor.

4. Again, just conjecture with no evidence. To blame the problem in Israel on Biden is silly. This is an ongoing problem. Seriously, man, turn off the Tucker. Biden isn't buddies with Iran.

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Re: How?


Posted: May 13, 2021, 3:14 PM
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There’s no debating the extra unemployment benefit. If you’re receiving $700/wk tax free, that’s equal to $36k year and more if that household actually owes taxes. That’s about $18/hr which is $3 more than the min wage that libs are crying for. Still don’t think it matters?


While the Feds have not and don’t have authority to defund police, Harris and Congressional Dems have certainly advocated for it. The DOJ stuff is just unnecessary bs just like Ferguson was. The cases have mostly already been tried and adjudicated, civil awards made, and leadership changes made. This is just the DOJ micromanaging and causing good cops to leave...as they are in record numbers.

I stand by what I’m saying about inflation. I have over 30 years of education and experience to know what I’m talking about.

You can believe what you want about Russia and the ME. The fact remains none of that stuff occurred under Trump.

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Re: How?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:11 AM
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While the Feds have not and don’t have authority to defund police, Harris and Congressional Dems have certainly advocated for it.

Link to Harris advocating for it? And is this just a few fringe Dems or is this the set policy of the Democratic Party agenda in Congress?

Either way, you're drifting more from your claim that Biden has caused crime to go up. You know it's not true.

Okay, on inflation, name the exact specific policy put out by this administration--not Congress---that has led to what we have now.

You can believe what you want about Russia and the ME. The fact remains none of that stuff occurred under Trump.


That doesn't automatically mean Biden has caused it. Did Bush cause 9/11? Did FDR cause WW II?

Russia didn't happen under Trump because he was Putin's lap dog. And the Middle East is a problem regardless of who is in office. They've acted up plenty under multiple administrations.

It was a dubious and false claim, and you knew it was.

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Re: How?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 3:22 PM
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Still waiting for some links backing up that Biden is responsible for a private company getting hacked and how Biden us responsible for the ME.

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I take issue with #1....


Posted: May 13, 2021, 3:24 PM
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most companies do pay better than unemployment. The fed gov increased unemployment by $600/week...then to $300/week. I could even get behind the initial idea, but the last round wasn't needed...or at least not needed everywhere and we're seeing the results.

Wages should be based on the competitive market. Employers should be competing with other employers for good workers. Employers should not be competing with the government for good workers...and by extension...the government using the employer's money (taxes) to compete back with them on wages.

This debate, especially with COVID in the mix, is complicated. Not all of the people sitting out are doing so because they can make more money on unemployment than working...but enough are were it is a big problem when added in with the people happy to sit home and have money given to them...even if it is less than they were making before.

We pay more than what the top earner would be making on unemployment with the COVID extra in GA...and that's not including benefits, which include company paying 80% of employee health insurance premium, paid vacation, PTO, 401k with employer match, long-term disability, life insurance and on and on. And we can't get people to even come to an interview. There are people happy to sit home and make $15/hr with others paying them and go to work and make a bit more than that - plus benefits.

I'm glad Kemp announced that COVID UI payments would be ending in June. Wish it was in May.

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Re: I take issue with #1....


Posted: May 13, 2021, 4:03 PM
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I’m not talking about electrical manufacturers. I would hope you pay more than $18/hr. The extra unemployment is on top of what states already provide. So people were making about $900/week tax free prior to the extra unemployment being reduced some. With both state and the federal now it’s about $700/wk.

I remember Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott saying this would happen when it was first proposed and many of you laughed at them. It was common sense then and it is now.

Yes it was started under Trump. It was argued against in the last COVID relief because the economy was already recovering.

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Your #1 might be true, but that's isn't a direct....


Posted: May 13, 2021, 3:30 PM
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cause for anything else you list below that reference #1.

We don't have fewer goods because the administration doesn't think COVID benefits are keeping ppl out of the workforce and that they may want to give more benefits.

We have fewer people in the workforce because COVID benefits exist now. That started under Trump and was extended in December by Trump and then again more this year under Biden.

Trump and Senate republicans made a big mistake in leaving in the moratorium on having to be looking for work to claim the unemployment benefits in December. I remember it being talked about and the WH seemed to be the ones on the right pushing for that to be left in. Big mistake. And SC and GA made big mistakes in accepting those funds into 2021.

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Executive Order's


Posted: May 13, 2021, 3:09 PM
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Border wall, Keystone Pipeline...Here, look them up. Sippy cup Joe is a disaster, and Hoe-mala isn't any better.

Thanks God the Senate is split 50/50 or Hellmeet handbasket.

https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021

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So which specific EO that was issued caused immediate...


Posted: May 13, 2021, 3:12 PM
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damage to the economy/economic growth?

I didn't care for much of any of his EO's, but to say that they immediately impacted the economy is baseless, imo.

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Okay, help a brother out.


Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:34 AM
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Tell me exactly how each specific EO did what T3 claimed.

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