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Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 26, 2021, 11:35 AM
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If the Alliance votes to only expand to 8 teams (not 12) with only conference champions +4 at large and no more than 2 teams from a conference for CFP or they vote to keep everything the same, the OU/Tex road to the playoffs will be substantially harder. I believe the Alliance caught the E$ecPN folks off guard.
From what I've read, the voting block will try to keep the collegiate model in tact and will try to level the media playing field. E$ecPN has a strangle hold on college sports, hopefully by banding together the Alliance can loosen that choke hold. The ACC lawyers should be exploring ways to get out of our contract or find a way to force renegotiation.
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 26, 2021, 11:48 AM
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Why would they block 12? 12 would help any league get another team in. With 8 Texas and OU could still get in if they think they can compete in the SEC. personally I see Texas and OU dropping more games than usual.
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Legend [15787]
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Nobody wants to see a 12 team playoff w/ 4 SEC teams...
Aug 26, 2021, 12:27 PM
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other than the SEC. Texas/OU could still get in but they'll have a much harder road in the SEC than in the now defunct Big12.
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FOUR! That would be considered a down year by the SEC...
Aug 26, 2021, 11:32 PM
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if they were to get what Skanky and crew proposed! Go back and look at the final rankings of the playoff era, and see how many times the SEC had five or six in the top 12! There were to be six at large teams, and the SEC would be shooting to get four or five of them, plus their automatic for their champ!
Hopefully, the alliance says "Hail NO" to that idea!
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Exactly...rememberr when Georgia lost to a 4 win South
Aug 28, 2021, 8:20 PM
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Carolina team and went from maybe #4 to #6...and they lost at home...
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 26, 2021, 12:33 PM
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Texas A&M was one of the worst teams in the big 12. They won 11 games for the first time in 12 years the first year in the SEC. A&M's win average has increased by 2 games from the previous 9 years in the 9 years since they've been in the SEC. Missouri also win the east twice in their first 3 years in the league. I think Oklahoma will tear it up and Texas will remain about the same if not get slightly better.
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 26, 2021, 10:43 PM
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Disagree. More losses for Texas as currently constituted and OK drops 2 to 3 a year. They already lose 1 to 2 a year in the B12.
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No way. Texas just bumped itself into the top 10 of
Aug 26, 2021, 12:17 PM
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Every ESPN preseason/ power index poll for the next eternity years.
The Mississippi schools just got booted.
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Re: No way. Texas just bumped itself into the top 10 of
Aug 26, 2021, 1:19 PM
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Their sudden attainment of SEC size and SEC speed is nothing short of miraculous.
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 26, 2021, 12:20 PM
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Also, lets not forget that this is more of a money thing than making the playoffs. The move to the SEC is about the $30mil that is gonna be added to their end of year check. Not about competition.
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They said it wasn’t about money***
Aug 26, 2021, 12:31 PM
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Re: They said it wasn’t about money***
Aug 26, 2021, 12:35 PM
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Darn! I was fooled by the internet again!
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Athletic Dir [865]
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The alliance has major problems
Aug 26, 2021, 12:36 PM
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The teams in the Big Ten get twice as much tv money as the other two conferences.
The path to a play-off (if conference championships remain part of the equation) is easier for the ACC and Pac 12
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Nope.***
Aug 26, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Not Financially! Competition speaking - yes
Aug 26, 2021, 1:01 PM
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I do not think they will be able to finish much better than Ole Miss when they are good! Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley - if he gets the right combo on offense could cause serious issues! If they have at least a decent defense.
Monetarily speaking - they will love it.
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The suits ... No. The fans ... Yes.
Aug 26, 2021, 1:18 PM
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Still only give out one trophy.
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Re: The suits ... No. The fans ... Yes.
Aug 26, 2021, 1:22 PM
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Good point.
Social equity dictates that everyone should get the same trophy.
The current situation is very problematic.
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 26, 2021, 6:00 PM
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Probably not, the SEC isn't that monster they want people to believe, not since the 90's anyway!!!.
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Orange Blooded [3639]
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It's more than about just making the CFP Playoffs
Aug 27, 2021, 2:25 AM
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The revenue increase for both schools will be massive. IMO, there is nothing that will make them regret this decision.
If this was only about winning the most games on the football field, I'd say OU was making a bad decision and UT would be neutral.
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Re: It's more than about just making the CFP Playoffs
Aug 27, 2021, 6:42 AM
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The question that keeps coming to me is what does all this money get you? Alabama is gonna be Bama regardless. UGa hasn't translated this money into anything they didn't already have. Tennessee has been worse. So has Florida. The rest are still also rans with LSU somehow winning titles only when played in the Sugar Bowl. OU and UT may get more money but OU has already been making the playoffs and UT is gonna UT. Let them spend money on facilities and the like. The money aa far as I can tell still has to be spent properly and that still only seems to translate into wins with proper coaching and program stability. I say quit chasing this silliness and let them miss spend at their leisure.
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It funds their entire athletic budget, not just football
Aug 27, 2021, 11:06 PM
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You have to look at the bigger picture. Both UT and the Aggies have great football facilities that recruits love. But they also have a boatload of other sports to support. This is where the extra money makes a huge difference.
This sounds weird, but the revenue generated by CFB allows schools to have balanced and expansive athletic programs all around, particularly in women's sports. SEC schools have the reputation of just throwing all the money back into football. But UT & A&M don't do that. Not really sure about OU, who IMO, probably fits mold of the SEC perfectly.
For the record, I was born, raised and went to college in the B1G and have lived in Texas the last 35 years. I dislike both UT & A&M. However, I respect both schools far more than any SEC program.
The SEC represents the absolute worst in college sports.
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Re: It funds their entire athletic budget, not just football
Aug 28, 2021, 6:20 PM
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I get the money all schools want for their budgets. I'm speaking specifically to the SEC and their football spending. Still doesn't get them anything other than Bama with the occasional uga and lswho. Other than that all that extra cash doesn't seem to be buying any other schools better football teams.
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Orange Blooded [3639]
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Nick Saban coaches at Alabama
Aug 29, 2021, 11:34 PM
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Only one team at a time can win the 'chip and Saban is just better than the others. SEC teams are fine if any of them win the CFB championship. They like it more when two of their teams make the playoffs. They get REALLY happy when two of their teams meet in the championship game.
They have intense rivalries, but their mentality about the conference exists nowhere else, which is why they chant "SEC SEC SEC". What other conference does that? My jaw hit the floor when I saw Aggie fans do it for the first time. They have drunk the Kool Aid.
Let's judge how well the other teams spend their money after Nick moves on. In recent years, their top 4 are usually better than the top 4 of any other conference. So I wouldn't say the extra money hasn't bought them better football teams. If UNC and Miami continue rising, maybe the ACC can change this.
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 27, 2021, 8:54 AM
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ESPN controls all of the cards. The ACC gets too much money from ESPN to vote against their interests.
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Re: Will OU and Texas end up regretting their decision?
Aug 27, 2021, 9:01 AM
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My point is exactly that. They don't hold the cards if the alliance negotiates a deal with another network. Is there a "buyout" clause if the ACC walks out for another network? And if it truly is locked in then it doesn't matter if we go against the evil network. Either way Espin does NOT hold the cards they think
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I don't think the ACC will object to breaking...
Aug 27, 2021, 11:09 PM
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the monopoly ESPN has on the CFB playoffs. Diminishing ESPN's power is one of the main reason's for the alliance. If the ACC objected, this alliance would have aborted early and never happened.
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No because the TV $$$ will be too good.***
Aug 29, 2021, 8:54 AM
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