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Let's talk firearms
Jul 30, 2020, 11:15 PM
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I saw this on fox and found it weird. Clearly, the implication is "we saw guns and were therefore justified in feeling threatened." Well I looked up Missouri gun laws, and let's just say it's a weird rabbit hole. Please correct me if there are some local statutes in play here, but essentially anyone in Missouri can carry (open or concealed) without a permit as long as they're 19 and not a felon or something. So the question now is, should you feel threatened by someone with a firearm who is otherwise not physically or verbally threatening you?
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6176860198001#sp=show-clips
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 30, 2020, 11:17 PM
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For the record, I doubt they actually saw anything, but it's a legal defense that would be difficult for the prosecution.
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The cops had body cams which recorded weapons...
Jul 31, 2020, 10:40 AM
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among the tresspassers.
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Re: The cops had body cams which recorded weapons...
Jul 31, 2020, 12:38 PM
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I don't really care about the actual couple. I would assume they get the charges dropped if they haven't already. I was more interested in the circular logic of the gun laws; I'm within my rights to draw my weapon because you have your weapon, which is perfectly legal...maybe even to protect yourself from idiots like me who carry weapons.
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 30, 2020, 11:28 PM
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I would feel threatened by an angry mob busting into a gated community if they were all carrying pom poms. That’s the point of THE GATE!
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 8:31 AM
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I think that's part of the problem, the standards shouldn't be subjective when there are people out there threatened by their own shadow.
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All-TigerNet [13029]
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 10:42 PM
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Angry mob with weapons shouting threats and damaging property ? Own shadow
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Oculus Spirit [93621]
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So you hate cheerleaders.
Jul 31, 2020, 10:41 AM
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Take the couch and let's chat about this.
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Re: So you hate cheerleaders.
Jul 31, 2020, 10:38 PM
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lol yes I do, they high kick and I think “sweet” only to realize they have on bloomers, not lingerie like I thought in my head.
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 30, 2020, 11:40 PM
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per the law in mizzu, they are on solid ground.
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 5:24 AM
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I side with the home owners. The charges should be dropped.
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 6:24 PM
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A blind hog occasionally finds the acorn.
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 7:28 AM
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Idiot! Duh!
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 8:43 AM
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Not unless he draws, which means you can draw too and shoot him dead and not have appear before judge Clancy.. I think we are talking about the same law Missouri has had on their books since 1843.
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After the tumbleweed clears the thoroughfare?
Jul 31, 2020, 8:47 AM
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Didn't one of them claim their weapon was unloaded? Seems like a poor strategy if they were pointing their weapons at other people with weapons.
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Re: After the tumbleweed clears the thoroughfare?
Jul 31, 2020, 10:32 AM
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the handgun was inoperable
not smart to present a non working firearm, just asking to get shot
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That's her story
Jul 31, 2020, 5:47 PM
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Nobody else will ever see the gun. She gave it to her attorney, so it gets the same treatment as the bag of bloody clothes that OJ gave his lawyer.
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Oculus Spirit [93621]
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How does that question apply to the situation in St Louie?***
Jul 31, 2020, 10:39 AM
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I don’t think it’s quite that cut and dry
Jul 31, 2020, 12:52 PM
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Re: I don’t think it’s quite that cut and dry
Jul 31, 2020, 1:50 PM
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Between them claiming that they saw firearms and that they heard threats, I don't see how you could successfully prosecute them. I'm seriously not interested in the couple, it just led me to look at the Missouri gun laws and I couldn't believe them. Once again, you can open or conceal carry as long as you're 19 (18 for military) and aren't a felon. Open carry comes up on the P&R board every so often and I am firmly in the "I can't think of a good reason to open carry" camp. Seems like a good way to get yourself shot.
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What a whack set-up all that was. If it was a private, gated
Jul 31, 2020, 6:24 PM
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community, not publicly maintained, then that whole lot of gatecrashers were trespassing just by being on that street uninvited, right? However, with the city's mayor's residence being there, there might be some gray area in terms of charging the marchers based around civil disobedience. No lawyer here.
As for the couple, pretty poor form for the DA to prosecute the homeowners for brandishing weapons on their own lawn and driveway with that going on. It only takes one sad sack in a bushel to poison the waterhole, so they are probably all fortunate that nothing out of hand unraveled.
Just move on and let everyone get a stern lecture and a warning for next time.
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Re: Let's talk firearms
Jul 31, 2020, 6:22 PM
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They are in good hands since they have secured the services of Lin Wood!!
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