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Legend [19900]
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Which Politician do You Trust?
Sep 21, 2021, 11:23 PM
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Please give reasons to support your opinion.
I don't trust any of them, so here's your chance to convince me.
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Lot o points [180966]
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Kanye***
Sep 21, 2021, 11:32 PM
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All-In [47754]
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My local SC Congressman.
Sep 22, 2021, 12:18 AM
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We are the same age and I have personally known him since I was like 12 or younger. Know what kind of person he is.
Federal? None.
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Which Politician do You Trust?
Sep 22, 2021, 6:10 AM
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Tim Scott. I called his office asking for some help for a young couple who had made a mistake with the IRS. The husband works full time in spite of a very limiting handicap.Both are also somewhat intellectually challenged. Tim Scott was on in within a couple hours and absolutely went to bat for them and helped correct the situation. Scott showed me something. He’s real.
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There are plenty...
Sep 22, 2021, 7:53 AM
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Including myself who have contacted his office for important matters, and it was just crickets. He cherrypicks like any politician, and he can be bought for any agenda.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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Well Tim Scott totally blew me off, and not in a good way.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:23 AM
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I contacted him with a very well written email, asking for his input on a community-wide issue. No reply for 2 months, THEN I got the most canned boiler plate email saying he appreciated my support.
What a worthless suit.
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Senator Scott is a representative of South Carolina
Sep 22, 2021, 9:27 AM
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to the federal government. Wouldn't a more local leader be more appropriate for a community issue?
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CU Medallion [64837]
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Oh for sure.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:46 AM
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I used the shotgun method and sent an email to county council rep, state rep, state senator, us rep, and us senator.
I was all riled up at the time. I'm over it now.
Senator Shane Massey actually drove up from Edgefield and met with us later that evening. That was impressive.
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Oculus Spirit [97702]
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None. There are a few I'd trust more than others
Sep 22, 2021, 6:50 AM
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But basically none I'd totally trust.
Politics doesn't attract or reward trustworthy people. They are sent packing.
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Oculus Spirit [78865]
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protip: nobody changes their mind on P&R bored***
Sep 22, 2021, 7:03 AM
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Legend [17909]
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Ron DeSantis
Sep 22, 2021, 7:24 AM
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Because he is a NAVY man...like me. And you can always trust a NAVY man. Except when you can't.
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Don't really trust anyone in the role of "politician"
Sep 22, 2021, 7:26 AM
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But in the context of the leadership role of individuals in government, I do place a measure of trust, that they are trying to do good things for the country. And then I vote accordingly in the corresponding election if I feel they violate that trust, or have a different view of what is good for the country than I do.
The reason I feel this way is Romans 13:3.
"For he [the ruler] is the minister of God to thee for good."
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Another way of saying that is...
Sep 22, 2021, 7:28 AM
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I trust them in the Senate chamber/Oval Office, etc., but not so much on the campaign trail.
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Re: Which Politician do You Trust?
Sep 22, 2021, 7:51 AM
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I don't give out trust easily, and I especially don't give it out to someone I've never met or gotten to know. So none of them, but that's the case with any person.
Politicians generally say what people want to hear, so that makes it hard to trust them. Some politicians do that AND also reveal that they are terrible people, so they aren't worthy of trust by anyone unless that person is also a terrible person.
Thus, anyone who trusted Trump = bad person. Yep. That's how it works.
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Strongly disagree with your last point
Sep 22, 2021, 7:55 AM
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I hope and suspect you're exaggerating for dramatic effect. I did not vote for President Trump, as you know, but most people I know and love did, and I would say most of them did and do trust him. Most of these people, I would trust with my life, or the life my daughter.
The attitude that anyone who feels differently on a political topic is broad-brushed as anything, much less a "bad person", is one of the primary things wrong with political discourse today.
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Prod, there's a distinct difference
Sep 22, 2021, 8:04 AM
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Between voting for the man and throwing your unbridled trust and adoration into him. He is a despicable, horrible person, and that evidence has been readily accessible to all Americans before he ever even ran for president.
I'm not going to mince my words: Those who adored him and blindly trusted him revealed their character. The hate he spewed toward others, well, if someone loved him and trusted him, that gives me a glimpse into their own heart.
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You moved the goalposts.***
Sep 22, 2021, 8:11 AM
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No, I didn't. But feel free to explain how you think I did.***
Sep 22, 2021, 8:11 AM
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Obvious to me, but OK...
Sep 22, 2021, 8:13 AM
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Post 1: "trusted him"
Post 2: "adored him and blindly trusted him"
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Ok, fine.
Sep 22, 2021, 8:19 AM
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I'll stick with trust. If a person trusts a racist man who mocks disabled people and attacks women who simply disagree with him or challenge him, that tells me all I need to know. We don't even have to get into his attempts to harm our country and that individual's view of democracy by trusting a man who took the actions he did.
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"That tells me all I need to know"
Sep 22, 2021, 8:27 AM
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I strongly disagree.
What it means is that they have a different view of the person than you do. They don't believe he is racist...else they wouldn't trust him. They don't believe he "mocks disabled people". They don't believe he harmed the country...if they did, they wouldn't trust him.
You can disagree with thim, strongly, and I'll probably be more on your side on it than theirs, but no opinion" tells you all you need to know" about anyone. That's the whole point. People are more complicated than that. No single opinion you have or stance you take defines you, Cata. You are defined by the totality of your behaviors in life.
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Re: "That tells me all I need to know"
Sep 22, 2021, 8:44 AM
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They don't believe he is racist...else they wouldn't trust him. They don't believe he "mocks disabled people". They don't believe he harmed the country...if they did, they wouldn't trust him.
And therein lies the problem. The evidence has been laid before them, and they choose to ignore it or refuse to believe it. Some of them, even when presented with the video of him mocking the disabled reporter, flat out denied that he was doing that.
If I judge a man too harshly for disregarding or denying these qualities in this man and putting trust in him, so be it. Maybe that's my character showing.
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For all my views on him, well-established here,
Sep 22, 2021, 8:49 AM
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I personally would not call President Trump racist. Do you believe I am willfully ignoring evidence to the contrary? Or is it possible that I see the evidence (it was always on the news, after all), and it leads me to a different conclusion? You will not offend me with your answer. I just wanted to bring it down to our level, and see if that changes anything, as opposed to talking about a nebulous group of people "out there".
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Joe Biden and Greta Thunberg
Sep 22, 2021, 8:51 AM
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Because they can turn any topic into climate change banter ...
What about the border? Climate change
What about the Taliban? Climate change
What about the Red Sox? Climate change
They keep their eye on the prize
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Re: Which Politician do You Trust?
Sep 22, 2021, 9:40 AM
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None. They are all guilty/corrupt of something in my eyes.
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The very idea of a trustworthy politician
Sep 22, 2021, 9:41 AM
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left the USA generations ago. When being a politician changed from a limited/temporary public servant to a lifelong career and a way to make bunches of money, trustworthiness was among the first things to be sacrificed. It is the rare human that is immune to the affects of power and money.
What is really disturbing to me is that generations of political nepotism and inbreeding has now yielded a separate elitist political class in our society who can do no wrong, break almost any law and lie with impunity with no accountability.
So understanding this I don't trust any politician. I simply vote for the ones that I believe will do less damage to my individual liberty and the Constitution.
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I think Rand Paul is basically WYSIWYG.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:56 AM
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But as most everyone has said...politicians lie a lot. Hard to say you "trust" them. There are probably some conservatives that I trust will ultimately lead the country in the ultimate direction, but are they doing it in the most forthright way? Highly doubtful.
It's like how companies have started to run the numbers on good customer service. Ultimately, the loss they realize by making you go through a mind-numbing automatic menu of options when you call in, followed (if you're lucky) with a customer service person who probably won't be able to help...ultimately that loss is less than the cost of providing good customer service, so the heck with you. They don't care. I suspect big-time political consultants have quantified the cost of lying...even if you get caught...against the opportunity to either get elected or remain in power and...the heck with ethics. They don't care.
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Re: Which Politician do You Trust?
Sep 22, 2021, 10:40 AM
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Ron Paul
Rand Paul
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Re: Which Politician do You Trust?
Sep 22, 2021, 11:18 AM
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Ronald Reagan and Miura Tiger!!!!
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