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Skip Wise scores!


Nov 24, 2016, 9:12 PM

It's not much, but I've been looking for some footage of Skip Wise for years, and stumbled across this out of the blue. Easily the best ever at Clemson, at least in my lifetime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQZsEq8tMOA

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Thanks for posting- it was my freshman year and he was a


Nov 24, 2016, 9:18 PM

special player.

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Smiling -- Completely agree with you on Skip


Nov 24, 2016, 9:30 PM

He was the best CU player in my 50+ years! I remember how he absolutely ate Phil Ford's lunch every time the Tigers played The People's Republic of Chapel Hill. Thanks for posting.

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Yep - and consider this . . . Phil Ford was a consensus


Nov 24, 2016, 10:27 PM

first team All-American in 76, 77, and 78. He was the consensus college player of the year in 78. He was the second overall pick in the NBA draft, and was NBA rookie of the year. Skip Wise was objectively and without question, better than him, and beat him out as a freshman for all-conference honors.

Brad Davis of Maryland was also a freshman guard in 74-75. He also starred as a true freshman for a very powerful Lefty Drisell coached team. He left after his junior year for the NBA, where he was drafted in the 1st round and went on to play 12 seasons in the league. Skip Wise was objectively better than Brad Davis.

Skip Wise was truly Jordanesque (or maybe LeBronesque, for you young'uns). What a tragic story when you think what could have been.

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To tell you how good he was is this.........


Nov 24, 2016, 9:42 PM

He was a 1st team All-ACC player his freshman year at Clemson when we NEVER had any 1st team All-ACC players - I remember watching him play against the star players from Duke, UNC, etc. and he was as good as any of them.

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He was the first freshman ever to make 1st team All-ACC.***


Nov 24, 2016, 10:02 PM



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Re: He was the first freshman ever to make 1st team All-ACC.***


Nov 24, 2016, 10:06 PM

Superb player without a doubt!

Go Tigers!

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Honey Dip !!!


Nov 24, 2016, 9:42 PM

Skip Honey dip Wise was certainly a special talent. Wish he would've stayed around longer.

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I believe that was his 2nd game and he went for 36


Nov 24, 2016, 10:09 PM

The old Iptay Tournament

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If you still have any pull over there, maybe you could


Nov 24, 2016, 10:35 PM

ask around to see if there isn't some old film stashed away somewhere? Maybe Tim Bourett? ;)

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That was the old IPTAY Tournament and it


Nov 24, 2016, 10:13 PM

Was the first time Skip as a Clemson player got on the floor. He didn't even start, but I'm pretty sure he started evey game afterwards. I forget exactly how many points he scored in his short time on the floor that game (the leading scorer?), but for all of us there, his play was the only topic of discussion. With Rollins and Croft controlling the boards, the future looked very bright with an unstoppable guard out front.

The details are all true...Wise was the 1st Freshman to make 1st string All-ACC (Phil Ford was a freshman at unc that season also)....but 6 months later, Wise was gone, Locke was rightfully fired, and we got put on 3 years probation after getting caught up in the Moses Malone bidding war (as did Maryland and New Mexico). Malone's uncle--who wanted him to play for Lefty--testified to the NCAA that Locke had offered Malone's family a new house. Locke claimed that was a low end figure of what Malone was offered by other coaching staffs and school representatives.

A lot of us who'd screamed our heads off in brand new Littlejohn that season with visions of an incredibly bright hoops future dancing in our heads were understandably devastated

Btw---this day and age, Skip would be called for "palming" every time dribbled

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I'm pretty sure palming was eliminated as a violation some


Nov 24, 2016, 10:29 PM

time ago! ;)

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A Clemson guard was called for "carrying" the ball (the


Nov 24, 2016, 10:33 PM

Exact same infraction) early in the last game

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I would have fallen out of my chair!


Nov 24, 2016, 10:40 PM

But you are right - the years he spent playing on the streets and playgrounds of DC "carried" over to his college game, and it was obvious in every aspect of his game including his dribbling.

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Forgot to mention Penn was ranked 11th nationally


Nov 24, 2016, 10:58 PM

prior to that game.....even in retrospect so many years later.....it's still amazing how deeply so many Clemson fans were affected by that game in a half-filled arena, but everyone who was there speaks of that performance with reverence...someone above mentioned Skip scored 36 in that game in limited play---I think that figure is correct..been a while

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Re: Forgot to mention Penn was ranked 11th nationally


Nov 25, 2016, 7:44 PM

I don't remember how limited his playing time was , but you're right on the 36 pts . Penn was collapsing on "tree" and skipped kept knocking down the jumper . And this was before three pointers and dunking .

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Amazed if there isn't more footage somewhere ...


Nov 24, 2016, 10:15 PM

His one season would make a great highlight reel.

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I know - there has to be old film somewhere. I look for


Nov 24, 2016, 10:30 PM

clips online from time to time and have never really found anything until this.

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Nov 24, 2016, 10:24 PM

an old article.. but gives those who never saw skip lay a little idea.

The greatest who never made it
by Seth "Soul Man" Ferranti / September 3, 2005


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When dudes talk of the best ballers out of Baltimore, cats like Carmelo Anthony, Sam Cassell, Juan Dixon and Muggsy Bogues are brought up. These B-More natives all made it to the NBA and enjoyed success. From Carmelo's superstardom to Cassell's rings to Dixon's solid play and NCAA chip to Muggsy's stature and playing in the land of giants, each of these players are unique to the league and unique to the city. And just like Dunbar's famed high school basketball program, the playgrounds and streets of East Baltimore are famous for breeding awesome basketball players.

Some say the greatest ever to come out of B-More was Allen Harper Wise Jr. aka Skip Wise.

"He was one of the best dudes to come out of East Lafayette projects," says Choke, Skip Wise's homeboy. "I was like 13 when I met him. He was like one of my idols when I came up playing ball."

Skip wasn't just some hood legend. The dude had pedigree. The Street Basketball Association lists him as one of the 50 greatest streetballers of all time – next to legends like Doctor J, AI, Pee Wee Kirkland, The Goat, Sweet Pea, Curt Smith, Sleepy Floyd, AO, Future, Rafer Alston and Connie Hawkins. He led Dunbar High through two undefeated seasons and a No. 1 nationwide ranking in the early 70s as a teenager.

"In 1971, DeMatha High School was the No. 1 team in the nation led by Adrian Dantley," says DJ, another B-More native and hoops historian. "Skip Wise and Dunbar knocked them off. Skip had like 47 in that game. Adrian Dantley, the future NBAer, said that Skip was the toughest person he ever played against. A special player with exceptional talent, unlimited range and speed."

High school glory wasn't the end for Skip. In 1974, he took his game to Clemson.

"He was the first freshman to ever lead the ACC in scoring and make All-ACC," Choke says. "He averaged 27 points a game. He was playing against John Lucas at Maryland and killing him. When he made a move, they would say Skip or Honey Dip. He was the purest shooter I ever seen in my life in person."

But this 6-foot-4 combo guard with NBA game was already fooling around with drugs. Drugs that would lead to his downfall.

"He was already a dope fiend shooting 40s to 60s of dope at Clemson," DJ says.

"He starting getting high. He was involved in the street life," Choke says.

And like so many other talents from the hood, he wasted his opportunities.

"He left school and signed with the Baltimore Claws, an expansion ABA team in 1975. But the city didn't have enough money to finance the team and they folded," DJ says.

"Skip had already signed, so he couldn't go back to school. He signed with the Golden State Warriors to be their starting point guard but coach Al Attles caught him in preseason shooting dope in the locker room and cut him. Golden State went on to win the championship that year. A lot of people said that if he just went back to the hotel, he could of had a nice career."

Skip could have been feeding the ball to Rick Barry, Butch Beard and Clifford Ray. He fell off the radar instead.

"In the 80s he came back to B-More and was in jail for the 80s and the 90s. Back and forth. State cases, fed cases," says Choke. "There’s penitentiary legends that say he was outdoing Pee Wee Kirkland in USP Lewisburg, dropping 50 on him."

But even after jail, Skip Wise was still in the streets.

"Skip hung out with dudes like Marty Gross, Peanut King and Melvin Merideth – all big-time ballers," DJ says. "They were the dudes he hung around. The biggest drug dealers in East B-More."

"Skip hung out at the HighHat, a bar on Wolf Street in the heart of East B-More," DJ says. "Skip was the man there. Can't just anybody hang there."

Skip still loved basketball, though. He resurfaced in the local street ball tournaments.

"He was playing in the Dome and streetball around B-More," Choke says. "He just got out of Lewisburg. He went head to head with Sam Cassell at the Dome when Cassell had just won the NBA championship with the Rockets. Gunshots stopped the game in the third quarter, but Skip had almost 40. Nobody on the court could check him and he was forty something. He was a bad motherf... in '94 so imagine him in '74. He was in the caliber of Jordan. Of Magic. But it all went to waste."

Choke has a lot of fond memories, though.

"I remember when he used to shoot jump shots, they would holla layup before it went in. When they asked him where his shooting range was at he would say, 'as soon as I step on the court.' He would shoot the ball and run into the stands and sit down and turn and ask the spectator, 'Did that go in.'"

So not only was he a great basketball player, he was an entertainer.

"He shot a lot. He probably shot 60 percent from the floor. The ball cocked behind his head. As soon as he would shoot he'd holla, 'Get back, get back.’ They said he wasn't serious because he'd be laughing and having fun on the court. He was like a George Gervin that played defense. They called him Honey Dip because when he dipped the ball on the finger roll it looked real sweet."

Choke thinks a minute.

"I haven't seen Skip for a while. I don't think he do nothing with basketball now."

But DJ says, "He lives in East B-More still. He stopped getting high. He was smoking coke. I've heard a lot of different stories."

Still the legend lives on. Even Sam Cassell mentioned Skip Wise and gave him his props in a Slam article.

"Those that know him know Skip Wise was cold," Cassell said "He was my hero."

The hero who could have been but never was.

Still in the neighborhoods of B-More, he is a legend. One of the greatest to ever come out of B-More. Or as Choke puts it, "The greatest who never made it."

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Great article - thanks for including. I'd seen it some time


Nov 24, 2016, 10:33 PM

ago but I'm sure many have not.

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Unfortunate, but a good read... +1.***


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