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Clay Travis - Fri Mailbag Perspective on DW4 Situation
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Clay Travis - Fri Mailbag Perspective on DW4 Situation


Apr 16, 2021, 6:32 PM

Subscriber Question: “Is it possible that Deshaun Watson demanded a trade earlier this year thinking if he moved, the lawsuits wouldn’t follow him? He couldn’t possibly be that dumb, still…”]

Clay Travis Perspective:
"I don’t think that was the reason Watson demanded a trade. I think his feelings were hurt over how the Texans went about hiring their new general manager and coach. As the franchise quarterback, I think he believed he should have been consulted on these hires and when he wasn’t, he pouted. Demanding a trade was just evidence he was caught up in his feelings.

I don’t think it had anything to do with the sexual assault allegations.

The bigger issue here is this: Deshaun Watson got disastrous advice from his agent, lawyers, and sports representatives when the initial demand for payment from the first masseuse arrived from plaintiff’s attorney Tony Buzbee. For $100,000, Watson could have made this entire story go away.

Given that he’s presently signed to a $156 million contract and stands to make hundreds of millions more from future deals in his career, that settlement’s a rounding error for him. He should have negotiated a settlement to make this first case go away.

I understand that Watson may have believed he’d done nothing wrong, but you can’t tell me that he could have been having hundreds of massages, mostly from different women, and none of his representatives knew this was going on or that it was a risk for him once the first complaint arrived. Given the frequency and volume of these massages, it would have been virtually impossible for him to hide. Now they may not know what was going on during the massages, but let’s be honest, this is strange behavior. Something was up here, just based on the sheer volume of massages Watson was getting.

Put it this way: how many 25-year-old men do you know who are getting around 120 or 150 massages a year? I mean, that’s an absolutely insane number of massages. Most people don’t even go to the gym that many days in a year. And if an athlete really needed that many massages for therapeutic reasons, especially during COVID, they are likely going to the same masseuse over and over again.

It doesn’t take a genius to believe that Watson was after something other than a therapeutic massage. So Watson’s representatives needed to have an uncomfortable conversation with him when the first allegation arrived. And even if he claimed he’d done nothing wrong, they needed to consider and explain to him what would happen the moment this first woman went public and advised him to settle. It’s worth $100k, way more than that, in fact, just to have this first accusation never go public.

That’s especially the case because any good advisor would have immediately realized that once one woman went public, there was a decent chance, given the fact Watson was having over a hundred massages a year from a wide variety of women, that eventually other women were going to go public too. In other words, once the first accusation was made, it was eminently foreseeable what would happen next — that other women would see the first woman had come forward and there was a strong likelihood others would follow. That first lawsuit effectively acted as an advertisement for other women.

So you needed to prevent that first advertisement from ever going public.

Yes, Watson should have been smarter than to put himself in this situation, but this is just awful management by Watson’s advisors. They could have potentially eliminated any of these stories ever coming out for $100k, and now Watson’s entire career is in danger. I mean, seriously, he could end up in jail over these issues. Not to mention, he’s going to have to pay, at the absolute minimum, tens of millions of dollars to settle all these cases now.

He should fire everyone who advises him for being awful at their jobs.

And if I were advising him now, I’d tell him to pay whatever it takes to settle these cases now and pray that keeps these women from deciding to cooperate any more fully than they already have with the Houston police. Because once criminal charges are filed, and I think that could happen sooner rather than later, Watson is in even more legal jeopardy.

Forget playing football. Watson could end up in prison for years, if he’s not careful here.

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So if he settles with the first accuser for 100k,


Apr 16, 2021, 7:31 PM

Doesn't that just provide further incentive for the other women to come forward and expect $$$ ? I don't understand why Clay thinks paying off the first woman fixes everything.

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Re: So if he settles with the first accuser for 100k,


Apr 16, 2021, 7:43 PM

Because there would have have been a NDA, and it would not have been publicized. What Travis is saying is exactly what I said a few weeks ago.

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Talking about giving bad advice...


Apr 16, 2021, 7:43 PM [ in reply to So if he settles with the first accuser for 100k, ]

but i'm really not surprised, he full of opinions that don't amount to much anyway...

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This answer seems pretty reasonable from Travis


Apr 16, 2021, 8:09 PM

which shows that he is capable of reasonable discourse when he wants to be but instead often sells out to sensationalistic one sided framing to generate clicks for his base. He tried to make this Watson issue a woke race thing for a while, claiming that ESPN wasn't covering it as much because Watson is black. Just stupid stuff like that drags him down.

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When you play


Apr 16, 2021, 8:44 PM

With fire, you increase your opportunity to get burned. There is a reason a young,wealthy athletic guy is visiting massage parlors almost daily. If you think it’s therapeutic you’re kidding yourself. These ladies are in the business to make money and this group is going to hit home runs like Miami is doing right now,,,

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Very reasonable response from Clay..


Apr 16, 2021, 9:22 PM [ in reply to This answer seems pretty reasonable from Travis ]

And I think hes right about Watson...just odd behavior and even though he may feel he is in the right, he's a public figure on the modern day of media and things like this don't go well.

Now, as to your other point on Clay selling out, that's BS and likely you don't agree politically with his takes? I will say he drives the narrative a little too far at times on some topics bit he is usually spot on and a welcome voice in the sports media world. He makes his case better than anyone I've ever listened to. He's a smart guy, who has built a mini empire within the sports media world...his own brand is so big now that he can survive on his own apart from a network name.

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Exactly


Apr 17, 2021, 12:57 PM [ in reply to This answer seems pretty reasonable from Travis ]

Don't forget, Clay Travis is a lawyer; he knows how to twist & heat up stories & content to make people participate. He's a wizard at pushing buttons that create clicks & drama.

But he's still capable of incredibly rational, intelligent thought. I think that's what bugs me about him; his business model makes obvious sense, but it's disingenuous by nature (again, often a lawyer-esque mentality by nature).

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Why was that advice bad, specifically?***


Apr 17, 2021, 12:39 PM [ in reply to Talking about giving bad advice... ]



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Paying 22 women 100K is still a Hell of a lot cheaper than


Apr 17, 2021, 12:35 PM [ in reply to So if he settles with the first accuser for 100k, ]

what he is going through now, if he misses this year, he's out 20+ million

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Re: Paying 22 women 100K is still a Hell of a lot cheaper than


Apr 17, 2021, 2:55 PM

I think they thought Busbee would come back with a lower figure when asked for another number. Busbee had Big $$ in eyes and was going for the moon. He has apparently run this with at least 1 other NFL player.

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