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All-In [46822]
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I just don't understand why Trump HAS TO BE right
Jul 14, 2021, 11:55 AM
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to MAGA's.
They will fall all over themselves or just completely lie to ensure that Trump is right.
Why can't Trump be wrong to these people?
Edit: ITT, Lakebum proving my point
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It's a zero-sum, binary game.
Jul 14, 2021, 12:07 PM
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If Trump is WRONG, then conversely, the other side must be RIGHT. Which simply can't happen.
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CU Medallion [73569]
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why you still talkin about Trump?
Jul 14, 2021, 12:07 PM
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y'all are obsessed.
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All-In [46822]
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How long did yall talk about Hillary?
Jul 14, 2021, 12:10 PM
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and she didn't try to overthrow the government
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CU Medallion [60038]
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she did call him an illegitimate President and that
Jul 14, 2021, 12:13 PM
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the Russians got him elected......so she played the same game.
Trump didnt try to overthrow the Government, actually no one did. A couple thousand rednecks had a field day at the Capitol and are now being charged, some with Federal crimes. Your assertion is completely off base.
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broke into the Capitol to murder Pence and stop
Jul 14, 2021, 12:15 PM
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the election process.
But it was only a few Trumpers. Nothing to see here. Carry on.
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CU Medallion [60038]
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yeah they were going to accomplish that
Jul 14, 2021, 12:16 PM
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with literally ZERO firearms and a bunch of flags. You are right. My bad.
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Yeah, nothing bad happened at all
Jul 14, 2021, 12:17 PM
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carry on. Nothing to see here.
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Stupidity on stage here^^^^^***
Jul 14, 2021, 12:27 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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But they had zip ties!!!
Jul 14, 2021, 12:28 PM
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I want my $1 for calling it at the time how wildly blown out of proportion Jan 6th would become.
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Heisman Winner [137880]
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Angry mob invades Capitol for express purpose of
Jul 14, 2021, 12:30 PM
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disrupting the process of democracy. Wildly blown out of proportion, because they didn't succeed.
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I only tried to kill somebody. Since I missed, who cares?***
Jul 14, 2021, 12:32 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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Nobody tried to kill anyone, y'all have concocted this
Jul 14, 2021, 12:34 PM
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entire fantasy around what happened and it's really bizarre. Particularly when (I can't believe we have to rehash this over and over) most of the same people whining about it were the same ones falling over themselves to make excuses for antifa and blm for almost the entire duration of 2020.
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Making a comparison
Jul 14, 2021, 12:39 PM
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"They didn't stop the certification even though they were trying so it's no big deal"
"He didn't kill the person even though he shot at him, since he missed, it's no big deal"
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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Where were your awesome comparisons during the Kavanaugh
Jul 14, 2021, 12:44 PM
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hearing protests?
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Re: Where were your awesome comparisons during the Kavanaugh
Jul 14, 2021, 1:22 PM
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Republican senators were literally cornered in elevators while leftists screamed in their faces and threatened them if they voted to confirm Kavanaugh. They were banging on the chamber doors while they were holding hearings. Last summer, Rand Paul and his wife were assaulted outside the White House, and Trump had to be evacuated into a bunker (much to the chortling delight of the MSM) when mobs of violent leftist protestors - who had just attempted to burn down the church across the street, and had been throwing bricks and bottles of urine at capitol police - looked to be in danger of breaking through the gates.
This was all fine, according to the MSM and Democrats. Just patriotic protest.
It's all been memory-holed now so they can push their "insurrection" narrative and pretend like 2 hours of unarmed conservatives putting their feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk and waving flags in the halls of the Capitol while AOC cowered in a bathroom 2 blocks away was the worst thing since Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
I'm ####### tired of this ####. Democrats spent all summer publicly praising and encouraging rioters and directly raising funds to bail them out, and none of them were censured for it. Meanwhile, Trump gets de-platformed for "encouraging violence" despite calling only for peaceful protest, our worthless GOP can't be bothered to even mention the political prisoners who have been unconstitutionally held in solitary confinement without trial for going on half a year now, and any attempt to raise funds for their legal defense gets shut down by every major platform.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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Yep, and it's how you know there's no coming together with
Jul 14, 2021, 1:52 PM
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these people. Only thing you can do is watch the tension build until...
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There was clear intent to apprehend members of congress
Jul 14, 2021, 2:33 PM
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and/or the VP, and following who knows what. Once a single member is held hostage - it's game over. Martial law, democratic process overturned.
You are simply lying to yourself if you believe otherwise, and to others saying otherwise. Or maybe you are just too blind to acknowledge, which is certainly part of the territory of many adherents to the Trump neofascist GOP.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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No, there wasn't. This is part of the fan fiction you guys
Jul 14, 2021, 3:21 PM
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have made up. I don't even recall people at the time attempting to claim they were trying to apprehend members of congress, this is all pure fantasy that was written weeks after the fact.
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People that have been arrested posted that as an objective
Jul 14, 2021, 3:38 PM
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prior to coming to DC on Jan 6th to "Stop the Steal". They shouted such, and directed actions toward such, at the time of the assault itself. There are numerous examples of this. Talk about revisionist history - wow. Today's GOP should have its right to the elephant revoked. Memories are as long as the next spin cycle and new distraction. It's an insult to those proud pachyderms.
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Good lord. This is incredibly revisionist.
Jul 14, 2021, 3:48 PM
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Why in the world do you believe tens of thousands of people made the journey to D.C., for a Stop The Steal rally, hosted by a lame duck President who propagated the stolen election myth?
An estimated crowd of 30,000 people. Were all 30,000 of them intent on actually invading Congress and stopping the certification? Of course not. In fact, it's likely that most of them weren't intending anything of the sort. But that still leaves you with multiple thousands of people, many of whom were organized and had communicated on internet sites and other back channels about what they were actually trying to do.
Look at this peaceful gathering of tourists, casually strolling through Capitol halls and snapping pictures.
Not cops:
It's fine to go ahead and admit that you're completely minimizing this because of the team you're cheering for. Millions of others have already accepted it.
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Are you purposefully adding the "assassinate" and
Jul 14, 2021, 4:25 PM
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"capture / kill" twist away from just the sole kidnapping / capture element we were discussing? Also, from that article and others from the time, Feds were simply backing away early in the process from the claim and waiting for more evidence. To date, I don't believe any has been shared that there was a plan to kidnap and then murder, though conspiracy charges are just beginning to come out from investigations. Kidnapping, or capturing, alone would have ended the game as we know it, though, and that was certainly being discussed prior to and during.
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Didn't say that either now did I?
Jul 14, 2021, 4:51 PM
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Of course not, and you know that also. Reactionary diversions can only get one so far.
This article you keep turning to was written one week after the incident where Feds are stating at that time there was no "direct evidence" of a capture/kill plot or kidnapping plot. Your reactions to my post have all centered on a statement made 8 days after the fact by the investigators. We do know that since then there have been indictments of conspiracy, which began to come out just over a month ago, and continue to develop.
My argument was, and is still, that kidnapping and capture was ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY on the minds of many there, enough at least, where it was a real, and likely, possibility, had the chamber itself been breached and members accosted, which according to accounts was perhaps one mere minute away from happening. Stop the Steal fanatics had made statements online to that effect prior, and the noise and shouts at the time from the MAGAts on site echo that as well. Spin, span, spun at your leisure.
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I’ll be waiting with bated breath for those developments
Jul 14, 2021, 5:42 PM
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I feel pretty certain if they had any evidence of a legit kidnapping plot it would be plastered all over every news network in this country, but continue on with the fantasy.
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I was told damaged property was what insurance was for
Jul 14, 2021, 4:01 PM
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It's not actually violence.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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For the millionth time, by 2020 standards it was simply a
Jul 14, 2021, 12:36 PM
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peaceful protest that got a bit out of hand. You're characterizing it like it was some sort of Braveheart-esque charge into the capitol and that's not at all what happened. This idea that they tried to kill Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi, etc. is all pure fan fiction.
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There's literally film of them chanting
Jul 14, 2021, 12:40 PM
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"Hang Mike Pence"
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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Nobody tied to kill Mike Pence
Jul 14, 2021, 12:42 PM
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Even you can't be this stupid.
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Then what were they trying to do?
Jul 14, 2021, 12:47 PM
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have an afternoon stroll?
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Re: Then what were they trying to do?
Jul 14, 2021, 12:53 PM
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protest illegal votes
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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A little strolling, maybe some protesting. If you actually
Jul 14, 2021, 12:53 PM
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watched the real time video, it was evident to anyone with a brain many of them just went in to get a look at the place when they realized the doors were open.
That's not to excuse what happened, but in the context of 2020 it was a pretty mundane ordeal.
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And I'm the one in a fantasy world
Jul 14, 2021, 12:56 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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You're more than welcome to go back and watch the
Jul 14, 2021, 1:02 PM
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livestreams and form your own opinion. If, of course, they haven't been memory holed by Google. For every clip you have of "violence" there's about 1000 other ones showing people meandering around harmlessly. And if I recall, there were only like 2-3 instances of "violence". And I use the term violence very loosely.
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So you agree a handful of violent actors does not
Jul 14, 2021, 1:03 PM
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characterize a whole protest
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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Sure, and if the Jan 6th protesters had caused over a
Jul 14, 2021, 1:06 PM
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billion dollars in damage I'd look at them just like I do BLM.
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Most of which were charged with some variety of trespassing,
Jul 14, 2021, 4:00 PM
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disorderly conduct, or damaging govt property.
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Re: You're more than welcome to go back and watch
Jul 14, 2021, 5:11 PM
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Holy crap, to say "there were only like 2-3 instances of "violence". And I use the term violence very loosely." is just pure DELUSION and wanting to believe something totally contrary to the actual video EVIDENCE. 146 cops injured, some greatly injured and only "2-3 instances of violence". Wow! Here is just a sample of the the visual evidence and some more delusion from IDIOTS wanting to rewrite this history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KCUu4H8o94
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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nothing like an msnbc clip to prove your point
Jul 14, 2021, 5:44 PM
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I have no doubt every officer that had so much as a stubbed toe are counted in those stats. Remember the officer that got killed by protestors but really didn’t? LOL
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Re: nothing like an msnbc clip to prove your point
Jul 14, 2021, 5:49 PM
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Sure seems like a lot of defending of a riot for someone accusing others of defending riots
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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I believe you were one of the ones laughing at me for
Jul 14, 2021, 5:56 PM
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Saying they’ll act like it was comparable to 9/11….here we are, aren’t we?
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Can you point to anybody here saying it's comparable
Jul 15, 2021, 9:44 AM
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to 9/11, besides yourself? Over 2000 people died on 9/11. The completely unrelated event on Jan. 6 was an assault on democracy. Or, as you put it, "No big deal, those BLM people were doing the same thing."
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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9/11 was initially what I said it'd be compared with
Jul 15, 2021, 11:07 AM
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The Biden administration is saying it's the worst attack since the Civil War, so they're actually going even further with the absurd hyperbole.
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Re: 9/11 was initially what I said it'd be compared with
Jul 15, 2021, 11:13 AM
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Do you know that "domestic" attack means?
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Yes***
Jul 15, 2021, 11:15 AM
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Re: Yes***
Jul 15, 2021, 11:43 AM
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Domestic as in American citizen on American citizen violence?
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Yes, I know what you're talking about
Jul 15, 2021, 12:38 PM
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Now you've got me excited to hear how it was actually a worse attack than anything the KKK, Weather Underground, etc. had ever put together, or how it was actually more violent than something like the OKC bombing or more recent Vegas shooting.
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Re: Yes, I know what you're talking about
Jul 15, 2021, 12:47 PM
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Great, glad your excited! Easy, it is because it was a direct attack on the Article 1 branch of our government and presented the greatest danger to our democratic republic since the civil war.
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And that's completely ludicrous.***
Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM
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Re: And that's completely ludicrous.***
Jul 15, 2021, 1:02 PM
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Would expect nothing less than a true Trumper answer like that. So, please tell me how those other events/attacks presented a greater danger to our government than the civil war?
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I don't think I can explain it to someone this whacked out
Jul 15, 2021, 1:11 PM
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in fantasy land. Our system of govt was not in danger Jan 6th, that's just pure craziness. And if you think it was, what do you say about the Kavanaugh hearings shenanigans? How about Steve Scalise getting shot by a Bernie Bro? Many of you have totally lost your minds.
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Re: I don't think I can explain it to someone this whacked out
Jul 15, 2021, 1:19 PM
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LOL, whataboutism & ditto. This shows you how far even people that belong to the same party can be nowadays. Peace Bro!
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Re: nothing like an msnbc clip to prove your point
Jul 14, 2021, 6:19 PM
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WTH? Do your eyes fail to see what's on tape just cause of the MSNBC label? Even they can't modify what is happening. Here is another one with an interview of one of the (former Pub btw) cops so you can hear about his own injuries. Do his words not enter your brain just cause of the MSNBC label?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By1OUYKoncw
Oh, and I have seen no comment on this thread comparing this event to 9/11, except yours
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Re: A little strolling, maybe some protesting. If you actually
Jul 14, 2021, 1:10 PM
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I saw police officers getting beat with hockey sticks and windows getting smashed with riot shields that were taken forcibly taken from the Blue. LOL at just wanting to look around since the doors were open.
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Hahaha, "a little strolling."
Jul 14, 2021, 4:35 PM
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I legit spit my drink out reading that. It's incredibly bizarre to see otherwise intelligent people completely fall over themselves to rewrite what happened on January 6th.
The power of your echo chambers and propaganda is incredible when you step back and look at what you're saying in comparison to the reality of what happened.
"A little strolling"
"A little strolling"
"A little strolling"
God, that's funny.
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I'm not the one rewriting anything
Jul 14, 2021, 4:38 PM
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I'm glad you thought it was funny, it was meant to be. I'm basing my opinions off of my own observations, can you say the same?
I'll put it this way, I remember saying at the time, on this very board, that in a few months Dems would spewing their propaganda that Jan 6th was as bad as 9/11. I was generally laughed at for saying that, because at the time it seemed ridiculous. Well, here we are with all sorts of fun conspiracy theories and hyperbole surrounding it. So I don't really see how I'm the one falling prey to propaganda or an echo chamber.
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Oh, so you were trying to be funny. Gotcha.
Jul 14, 2021, 4:43 PM
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The line between parody and authentic opinion is tough to discern. I think many in this thread think you've been seriously downplaying what happened on January 6th, instead of parodying that insane argument.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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As I've explained many times before, I'm merely putting it
Jul 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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into context with the rest of the 2020 riots/protests/whatever you want to call them. Many seem keen on sensationalizing Jan 6th while downplaying the others, and I find that ludicrous. If Jan 6th had happened in say, 2012 with Obama's election, I could probably get on the outrage train with y'all.
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See, that's a common argument on right wing websites
Jul 14, 2021, 4:53 PM
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to 'whatabout' what happened on January 6th like it wasn't as bad or worse than the protests/riots in other cities. This is so on the nose of what is pushed out by the right-wing echo chambers, that again, if it's meant to be parody, it's good, but almost too good.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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Amazing how I was able to come up with it the same day
Jul 14, 2021, 5:39 PM
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It happened then. I think, more likely, it’s just the logical conclusion many have come to that are not completely eaten up with anti Trump emotion. Frankly, you seem to be quite the expert on “right wing websites”, much more so than myself.
You simply cannot look at Jan 6th in a vacuum like so many of you want to do.
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Sure you can, unless you have to try to downplay it
Jul 14, 2021, 6:02 PM
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Quick question: Does what happened on January 6th have anything to do with any of the prior riots in the other cities? If not, what is the purpose of bringing it up except to create a 'whatabout' argument.
There is an argument to not look at Janurary 6th in a vacuum, in that it was the culmination of Trump's rhetoric and propaganda about the election being stolen (that continues), white rage, and the descent of the Republican party into an authoritarian-friendly ethos that has no platform other than the attainment of power.
But, I don't think that's the vacuum you were referencing...
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Of course it does, it’s simple human nature
Jul 14, 2021, 6:20 PM
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If a bunch of people angry about politics watch other people who are also angry about politics riot, loot, and assault people with little to no repercussions for the better part of a year, you don’t think they’ll think about doing the same? Some of Trumps rhetoric was out of line, no doubt about it, but the rioting precedent had already been set.
Republicans are, and have been largely spineless do nothings. This caricature of them being these horrible hitler like authoritarians is silly. If anything, it seems like pure projection from Democrats. Republicans have been coalescing with dems for decades.
Your use of the term white rage is very telling, that’s the slick new term being thrown around, huh?
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Legend [18021]
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...and there it is, the circle is complete.
Jul 14, 2021, 6:28 PM
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"First they deny something is real, then they accept it but try to obscure what's really happening, then when reality becomes too obvious to ignore they just flat out blame it on Republicans."
-Lakebum1
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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You aren't very good at comparisons
Jul 15, 2021, 11:18 AM
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I do hope you'll keep me updated on the latest buzzwords from the progressive think tanks, you seem quite in tune with all the fun new vocabulary.
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Re: There's literally film of them chanting
Jul 14, 2021, 2:41 PM
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"Hang Mike Pence"
OMG BLM PROTESTERS WERE CHANTING "KILL ALL COPS, AND ACAB, PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY THEM LIKE BACON."
THOSE RIOTERS WERE ON A
MISSION TO MURDER EVERY COP IN AMERICA!!!!
Do you see how dramatic this sounds?
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Re: broke into the Capitol to murder Pence and stop
Jul 14, 2021, 2:37 PM
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Good thing they weren't successful! We are lucky the quanon shaman isn't president right now. They were so close!
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Re: How long did yall talk about Hillary?
Jul 14, 2021, 2:36 PM
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and she didn't try to overthrow the government
FB coach is a dramatic pansie. How did trump try to overthrow the government?
I'm actually not a huge Trump guy despite what the snowflakes believe on here. I didn't vote for him in 2016 and don't want him to run again.
But Trump didn't try and overthrow the government
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All-In [34486]
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"Dramatic pansy" seems like you throwing stones.
Jul 14, 2021, 5:00 PM
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Have you ever posted on this board without frothing at the mouth with emotion and outrage?
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Question for you:
Jul 14, 2021, 12:12 PM
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who gets the Republican nomination in 2024? Do you genuinely believe Trump will allow anybody to steal that spotlight from him? If so, what indication have you gotten from Trump that would lead you to this conclusion?
The unfortunate truth for you is that Trump IS the Republican Party now, and will be until he decides to relinquish control, or gets put in prison or dies.
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let me get my crystal ball...just stay by your computer all
Jul 14, 2021, 12:19 PM
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day.
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shakin' that jar like a good useful idiot
Jul 14, 2021, 12:46 PM
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blue v red
black v white
vax v antivax
gay v straight
all a ####### game man haha...played by the ####### morons
you're the exact same as a Trumpkin and you don't even realize it. you're doing the exact same ######## just wearing a different color shirt.
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Re-election has always been a 365 thing, but this has become
Jul 14, 2021, 1:04 PM
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unsustainable. Congress spends 24/7 doing nothing but power mongering for themselves. It has become a completely artificial sandbox in which highly paid people conduct a very expensive reality show. Even what little legislation they do get into - and I am very much "the less, the better", so there is that - is all about gaining power. They get elected to go to D.C. and get re-elected. No one, literally no one, is steering this ship, and when I look at the clowns there now I figure that is better than the alternative. Aside from Dan Crenshaw (and maybe Tulsi?) I can't think of anyone I trust to make rational decisions. We will not survive this. I mean that seriously. We will not, not in any form we currently recognize.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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IMO, we've got a decade or so before we're dealing with
Jul 14, 2021, 1:12 PM
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a variation of what South Africa's currently going through. Obviously there are other factors at play over there, but I'm referencing the total ineptitude and breakdown of government. Their police forces ran out of ammo. They brought forth more man power to keep people locked down for COVID than they have to protect their own gas/water/food supply chains.
That is the kind of leadership, or lack thereof, we are finding ourselves with these days, and I wouldn't be surprised if in the next decade we find our country in a similar state of chaos.
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A decade or so is about what I had in mind. The floor could
Jul 14, 2021, 1:28 PM
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have been a growing economy with capital and resources, but stability has to come from somewhere. China has autocratic masters the citizens complain about but obey. I wouldn't have it, but if you are looking for a floor, they do have that as the economy grows. Europe has a somewhat homogeneous culture: Scandinavians are Scandinavian. Immigration is causing some chafing, but the culture remains united in direction.
Then here we are, the most diverse culture the world has ever seen, and we have decided we can't stand growing success. As each group looks at the past and adopts a 'burn it down" mindset, I don't see what the floor might be. Capital will still grow, but fewer and fewer people will have more and more. You mentioned S America, and I agree, but I think of Africa, which is frozen in poverty by its tribal wars. A few have money, the rest fight each other. We seem to be headed there, in some form.
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Re: A decade or so is about what I had in mind. The floor could
Jul 14, 2021, 1:43 PM
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You do not believe the intellectual capital afforded to the left by FBCoachSC® and BirminghamTiger® will ultimately thwart USA's regression towards S. Africa's state of affairs?
Me neither.
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Re: A decade or so is about what I had in mind. The floor could
Jul 14, 2021, 7:04 PM
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It was the 81 million Americans that gave you and Donald Trump the middle finger last November that will thwart USA's regression towards S. Africa's state of affairs.
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