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Student inequality protests set to begin at SCar
Nov 16, 2015, 12:26 AM
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Secret documents were leaked tonight on Twitter by the Columbia Drinking Ticket account telling students how, where, and why to protest perceived inequalities and transgressions against minority student groups. I'm not going to express an opinion either way right now, but this is something that will affect Clemson in some way - given that these protests seem to be organized behind the scenes on a national scale, I wouldn't be surprised to see some at Clemson soon.
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Not a lot of learning goes on at SCar
Nov 16, 2015, 12:33 AM
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So they have time to protest bs
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Clemson's hiring a Director of Diversity soon
Nov 16, 2015, 1:08 AM
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So expect more of this at Clemson, because people in these positions at other schools have used their positions to promote campus activism.
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All-TigerNet [11963]
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It'a chief diversity officer, and we have one since 2008
Nov 16, 2015, 1:43 AM
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So nothing new here. Any protests that happen will occur because the students feel the need to exercise their right, and have their voices heard, not because the CDO encouraged them to do so.
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There have been protests, rallies, and demonstrations
Nov 16, 2015, 7:03 AM
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at Clemson for the past year or two. The fact that they aren't as radical as what happened at Mizzou doesn't mean they're not happening; it just means they're happening under your radar. It also means that Clemson students (and faculty and staff) have chosen, as seems to be characteristic of South Carolinians these days, to handle their complaints in a non-disruptive way. I also think that Clemson's administration has attempted to give the complaints due attention although often their response has been tone-deaf.
For what it's worth, I asked a very close friend of mine, a black woman who is a Clemson alumna and employee, if the situations at Clemson are any better than what's happening at Mizzou. She said they definitely are not. I trust this person with my life and she loves Clemson dearly; if she says it's bad for minorities at Clemson, I believe it.
I encourage you to see beyond the "us vs. them" mentality that pervades so many of these discussions and instead put yourself in the shoes of those who are the receiving end of these inequalities. If it was your best friend, your spouse, your child who was affected, wouldn't you want something done to make the situation better? Or would you blow it off as entitled complaining?
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Re: There have been protests, rallies, and demonstrations
Nov 16, 2015, 7:27 AM
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^^^I'm not really sure how to answer some of your questions, as they are not really specific examples. But here's my take on things.
I was in the workplace for 40+ years and have worked at every position in IT from Operator to Director. I'm White, but I have personally witnessed some of the following:
- Whites promoted to a position only to have that person replaced by a Black person due to "The Race Card" complaint.
- White people's resume forwarded to HR only to never be heard from again by the Black HR pesonnel, and the White people were very qualified to get an interview for the position.
- When I graduated from CLEMSON in '75, I was PERSONALLY told that I was "Not Black and not female, so they were not even allowed to interview me for the job, even though I was very qualified for it". That still burns my butt. This was due to AA (Affirmative Action).
- I have seen White bosses terminated due to derogatory remarks towards Blacks.
Actually, I could go on for hours with this, as I have witnessed unbelievable things that I considered "Reverse discrimination", but I simply don't have the time or have a desire to waste my time preaching to deaf ears. IMO, there is a ton more "Reverse discrimination" than "discrimination" in the workplace. That is probably hard for some to believe, but it is happening.
And we won't even talk about sports programs (NBA, NFL, etc) as those programs are completely dominated by Blacks (but Black people stick their heads in the sand and pretend this is okay). Their quick answer is "Hey, Blacks are the 'most qualified', so that is okay". I'm not sure if Black people can actually see that as a problem since they seem to be so hung up on having the best of EVERY world.
And we won't talk about every thing that is labeled specifically as "Blacks only" while noting is allowed to be "White only" (Here's a few: Harlem Globetrotters, Miss Black America, FUBU, Black History Month, Black Entertainment TV (BET), etc). If Whites tried to have a "Miss White America", Blacks would be rioting in the streets.
So let them protest to their heart's content. Blacks seem to just see what they want to see, and continue to feel that the world is against them. I don't see it that way, but I see it the opposite.
Anyway, it's unfortunate that we can't please ALL Black people, 'cause there sure are lot of really nice Black people that the planet is grateful to know. In spite of all the issues and conflicts we continue to have, I'm glad America is what it is - a melting pot of many races that should just get along. Right now it seems that some Blacks are the only ones that have a problem with everything. I have the hardest time understanding that.
I guess you can flame away now. 
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I've seen attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion.***
Nov 16, 2015, 8:24 AM
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Like I said,
Nov 16, 2015, 8:31 AM
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I encourage you to see beyond the "us vs. them" mentality which comprises the entirety of your post. Lower your guard instead of raising it at the first sign of provocation, which is exactly what you just did.
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it'd be awesome if the crybullies did the same.***
Nov 16, 2015, 8:36 AM
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Namecalling is beneath you, don't you think?***
Nov 16, 2015, 9:57 AM
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Re: There have been protests, rallies, and demonstrations
Nov 16, 2015, 8:47 AM
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I was in the business world for 43 years and agree with your statements completely. More times than I can count I was forced to hire unqualified blacks to make quotas. It was frustrating to have to bypass a worthy employee to justify the law. Equally as painful for me was watching a male make 20-30,000 dollars more than me because they were male. The head of the household bull crap doesn't apply anymore with millions of working women lots of them as single parents . Discrimation in all forms sucks.
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Re: There have been protests, rallies, and demonstrations
Nov 16, 2015, 9:59 AM
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Well, seeing as I graduated recently, I'm pretty familiar with the protests on Clemson's campus, am friends with those involved in the protests, and have spent quite a bit of time discussing the issues at hand with the folks leading the protests at Clemson, I'd say it's a bit presumptuous to cast me in such a way that I'm attacking or demeaning anyone. I simply noted that the origin seems to have come from a top-down national level movement as opposed to more organic, community-level protests like those at Clemson. Nothing in my original post is incorrect. Like almost all Clemson students and alumni, I would like to see a Clemson University where students and faculty push each other to be better, instead of tearing each other down.
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Orange Blooded [4757]
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My intent was not to attack you
Nov 16, 2015, 2:10 PM
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and I apologize if it came off that way. I did not read your post as you were attacking or demeaning anyone; I was simply trying to add to the discussion.
FWIW I do not see the activity at Clemson as being orchestrated by a top-down national movement. But I also don't particularly see anything wrong with that, as long as it's with the blessing and cooperation of Clemson students and faculty instead of someone supplanting them from outside. As far as I can tell, the student body is not being pushed to the side.
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These "protests are" brought to you
Nov 16, 2015, 7:38 AM
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courtesy of your off-shore communist billionaire, George Soros.
33 million dollars he spent. In Furgeson alone.
How is this an American movement?
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Re: Student inequality protests set to begin at SCar
Nov 16, 2015, 7:43 AM
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I'll express an opinion. No country is more tolerant of and inclusive of "minorities" and minority viewpoints than this country. No education system tolerates and encourages minority and dissenting viewpoints than the American public and private university system. This alleged "inequality" is a bunch of BS. Are there pockets of inequality and exclusion? Sure, just like society in general, in which it has always existed and in which it will always exist. This broad-brush alleged "inequality" is a bunch of BS being foisted upon us by a bunch of whiny attention seeking crybullies by a relatively small but powerful bunch pulling the strings in the background, who are hell bent on the destruction of this country from the inside out. This is what the "hope and change" crowd, or at least those who really knew what they were trying to do, wanted from the start.
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Re: Student inequality protests set to begin at SCar
Nov 16, 2015, 7:50 AM
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Nothing more than manufactured rage meant to fire up the democratic base for the upcoming election. Expect it to be ramped up considerably after the ISIS attacks in France. The Democrats can't have possible issues of national security dominating the headlines leading up to an election. See the midterm elections for an example of why.
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Liberal here, these protests are ridiculous.
Nov 16, 2015, 8:41 AM
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I hate what is happening to my people (liberals). We're becoming soft sad sacks who cry murder at the sight of a sombrero.
One guy smears some poop swastika at Mizzou and the president is to blame? If I had to guess, it wasn't a white racist who smeared that crap. Does that sound like something a racist would do? Draw on a wall with feces?
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Re: Liberal here, these protests are ridiculous.
Nov 16, 2015, 8:51 AM
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Sounds like a crackhead. Only crackheads would smear poo.
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