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Still bamboozled why FSU not #1
Dec 2, 2014, 11:41 AM
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Alabama and Oregon, both having lost a game and being taken to limit several times are ranked higher... Why ? That makes about as much sense as, well, wait, it makes NO sense.
28 wins in a row ? Check
Defending national champs ? Check
Undefeated in 2014 ? Check
Began season ranked #1 ? Check
Answer me why this playoff committee has FSU # 3. The simple fact they are the ONLY undefeated teams means nothing, is that what our new committee thinks. I am embarrassed for college football. It reeks of stupidity and exemplifies the bias toward a certain conference and the lack of respect for ours. 4-0 is all I can say, undefeated just like FSU.
So, while I dislike them with all my being, FSU deserves #1.
I do think GT has very good chance to take them down this weekend. And what about this, if Mizzou beats Bama then what a massive blow that would be to the SEC. They will make sure that does not happen, they being league officials and refs, but what a nice thought.
Anyway, this whole argument about FSU being tested almost every week by less than premier teams is nothing more than a spin from those who have an agenda. Sure, they are full of low moral and low character coaches and players, but I have not seen them lose this year while everyone else has!
Go Tigers!!
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Re: Still bamboozled why FSU not #1
Dec 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
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Last years stats are irrelevant. They're 12-0 in my eyes and that's it. But yes, they should be #1.
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Yes, 12-0 but why does SEC get to claim last 8 or 9 years
Dec 2, 2014, 11:48 AM
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but we cannot reference FSU being unbeaten for 2 years. Just making the case my friend and my case is Skrong!!
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Re: Still bamboozled why FSU not #1
Dec 2, 2014, 11:43 AM
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I couldn't disagree with you more.
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I couldnt agree with you less Dantzler
Dec 2, 2014, 11:51 AM
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refrain for time being...
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you think ACC refs and officials have protected FSU?
Dec 2, 2014, 11:45 AM
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Notre Dame game in particular
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That wasn't a bad call at the end of ND game.***
Dec 2, 2014, 11:47 AM
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Nope.
Dec 2, 2014, 11:49 AM
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It was a bad play by the WR. He gets away with that 100% if he doesn't extend his arms and make it obvious. It's a well designed pick play that is run a bunch and never called as long as the WR isn't being obvious about it.
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The fact they called that blows my mind, best call all year
Dec 2, 2014, 11:54 AM
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showed they were now bowing down to anyone or giving in to any pressure...clearly was the right call. What is your point is all I ask ? Clearly FSU is #1, give me a reason you do not agree and we can banter on with our thoughts.
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it was technically a good call but had nothing to do with
Dec 2, 2014, 12:00 PM
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the play. My point is accusing the SEC of protecting Bama but not considering the same with ACC. They have a vested interest in keeping FSU unbeaten as well.
I think as long as they are still unconquered, they should be #1. However, I dont think they will squek by a TCU, Oregon, or Bama
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the pick was what got the receiver open
Dec 2, 2014, 12:05 PM
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It had everything to do with the play. I agree with the rest of your post, though.
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I can agree with that statement, but they seem to manage
Dec 2, 2014, 12:09 PM
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playing to the level of competition but find way to win in the end. While that is playing with fire, they have continued to come out with a W each time which is crazy. Bama just gave up over 600 yards and 44 points to a team with 4 losses and yet get #1 rank, what a pile of BS!!! That makes me so angry I could stick a nail in my eye but yet FSU keeps winning and loses ground...... I could care less that its a rivalry game, Bama was obviously the better team and struggled to contain an Auburn team having a poor year.
Go Tigers!!
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Because the committee, thank God, is using the eye
Dec 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
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test.
From watching FSU, Oregon, and Bama, I think most would concede that Bama or Oregon would handle FSU.
I'm glad they are using the eye test and not giving an undefeated team the #1 ranking by default.
FSU hasn't handled hardly anyone in any kind of decisive win but to their credit, they keep pulling out the Ws. I think they should be #3 right now at best.
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Re: Because the committee, thank God, is using the eye
Dec 2, 2014, 11:49 AM
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This is the biggest problem with college football currently. Absolutely nothing is truly decided on the field. You can't use the eye test because everyone has bias. Do you know what isn't bias? 28 wins in a row. That is why conference champions only should go to the playoffs. Wins are what matters. Everything else is subjective.
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Re: Because the committee, thank God, is using the eye
Dec 2, 2014, 12:36 PM
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Most people are sick of Jameis and Jimbo. All of the off field distractions are an embarrassment to all of CFB. The playoff selection committee members are human and they are hoping FSU will just lose and go away. I can't say I blame them. I just have this scene in my mind with Jameis, the all alleged rapeist and Jimbo, his enabler standing on a platform holding up the NC trophy and it makes me sick! They are bad people and they don't deserve to win. Maybe GT beats them in the ACCCG and they will just go away!
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Re: Because the committee, thank God, is using the eye
Dec 2, 2014, 12:39 PM
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Tgrlvr1989, I did mention this in my original post that while they are comprised mostly of low character, low moral, no ethics coaches and players, they are still unbeaten and the only team that can say that. I totally agree that the image is poor and I am certainly glad our Tigers are a representation of all that is good with College Football.
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Re: Because the committee, thank God, is using the eye
Dec 2, 2014, 1:18 PM
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Dkmoore you certainly did mention all of that and my post wasn't meant in anyway derogatory to your post. It was just my guess as to why FSU isn't #1. I do tend to wear my feelings on my sleeve with regards to that mess in. Tallahassee. Sorry if it was a little overboard.
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I concur, did not mean to offend you either
Dec 2, 2014, 1:25 PM
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FSU should be ridiculed for defending the actions of a young man who does not seem to understand his position which is directly a reflection of coaching him in this area. Winston needs help and all that FSU wants to do is act like nothing is going on, win at all cost regardless of the tarnish it puts on the image of our institution...by the way, with all do respect to FSU, the image is already very low.
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I really dislike this line of thinking
Dec 2, 2014, 11:51 AM
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If winning isn't enough then we're right back to the "guess who is the best team" model. The eye test should only come into play when you're talking about equal records. FSU has won every game. That should be enough when other teams have lost, and when they've played a major conference schedule.
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everyone of those teams has struggled at some point
Dec 2, 2014, 11:51 AM
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This session more than once.
The difference is. .
1. fsu won all of the games they struggled in. Those teams lost at least one.
2. Fsu has struggled more times than those other teams.
The committee seems to put more emphasis on. 2.
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But those were SEC teams, you're silly.***
Dec 2, 2014, 1:15 PM
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Hmm, the eye test shows 12-0 while others LOST
Dec 2, 2014, 11:57 AM
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sure they have not dominated like 2013. They win, sometimes ugly(cue our Tigers give them a game), but they win. Can you imagine how upset we would be in here if we went undefeated and were not ranked #1 while everyone else in the nation has lost as least 1 game ? It would be civil unrest, earthquake inducing rage from within, TNET may literally crash the internet all over the world!!!
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Re: Because the committee, thank God, is using the eye
Dec 2, 2014, 12:09 PM
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Rankings should be based on results first, and not if you think one team would beat another team. Let's say Bama scores 1 less point vs LSU, and 2 less points vs Arkansas. Now they have 3 losses but they are still the exact same team and eye test would be the same, so I assume you still think they would beat FSU. So you'd rank a 3 loss Bama ahead of FSU. You probably wouldn't, but that's the logic you're using.
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If FSU wins the ACC...
Dec 2, 2014, 11:53 AM
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They'd have beaten 5 teams that were ranked at the time they played, and 3 teams currently in the top 20. I know some other teams have more top 25 wins, but that's hardly a schedule crappy enough for an undefeated defending champion to fall down to #3.
I think the folks doing the rankings have just been dazzled by the stuff going in in the SEC West and the PAC-12 South. They failed to take notice that the ACC Atlantic was actually a pretty good division this year, too (3 top 20 teams and NC State and BC at 7-5).
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They don't want SEC getting trounced by Oregon in the 1st rd***
Dec 2, 2014, 12:10 PM
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That's due to the slight amount of influence ESPiN has on...
Dec 2, 2014, 12:12 PM
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the process.
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Re: Still bamboozled why FSU not #1
Dec 2, 2014, 12:31 PM
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This is the manner in which the committee can justify dropping a 1 loss FSU team out of the
top 4. All the while leaving 4 other one loss teams in the top 4.
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Yes, there you have it orangetiger, precisely
Dec 2, 2014, 12:35 PM
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Now, what happens when Mizzou beats Bama...yes, Bama will lose to Mizzou ..... will they then drop out of playoffs ? I say hell yes as they should be no higher than #6 as they are not that good, just the truth.
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honestly I think it's because of Winston
Dec 2, 2014, 12:39 PM
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And Jimbo. I honestly think that FSU's image took a big hit this year and the voters are kinda sticking it to them. I really do. They r still in if they win out but people are just not into blatant conspiracy.
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So you would have been ok with Marshall being #2 until last
Dec 2, 2014, 12:53 PM
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weekend then? If being undefeated is all that matters, then they should have been number 2, correct?
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Hmm, considering they are not a power 5,then NO
Dec 2, 2014, 1:13 PM
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unfortunately for some you are unable to reason with a cohesive though...if you can name a single team that Marshall has played, then your opinion is null and void.
My case is to bring to light the obvious neglect for the accomplishments of FSU, while overlooking and only pin-pointing the highlights of other teams like Bama, Oregon, and everyone else. I will take it you do not agree with FSU at #1 and that is fine, but bringing Marshall into the mix leaves is basically laughable.
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But many here are saying wins and losses are all that
Dec 2, 2014, 1:49 PM
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matters, and the rest is subjective. So is that the truth, or does strength of schedule play into it? If strength of schedule and other "subjective" measures, such as margin of victory, and the "eye test" play into it, then FSU should not be #1. #3 is fine with me. In the end, it really doesn't matter where you are in the top 4, as long as you are in the playoffs. If you are the best team, then you will win the playoff no matter where you are ranked.
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