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Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..
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Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 10:31 AM

I hope all of you are brave enough to say the same.


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Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 10:36 AM

one. Similar to that stupid paw symbol the students tried to initiate last year. Don't go creating or changing the gameday traditions just because.

I have many other pet peeves that I can't explain, but this one just seems like change for the sake of change...and it sounds stupid IMO. I am sure many will disagree, but many will agree. Fire away!

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:00 AM

But the Paw itself hasn't been around even 50 years yet . Is that tradition?
We were still wearing orange and blue as fans well into the 90s and people still complain today that purple should never be worn on the football field. A lot of people.
I am not an alum as I have stated in the past , but my daughter now is ...and she loves the woo-hoo so I am in support.
I said what I said.
I am prepared to accept the slings and arrows.

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:09 AM

One point of correction. The Tiger Paw has been around more than 50 years. The Clemson Tiger Paw was introduced to Clemson people in July of 1970.

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:23 AM

You're correct , I forgot how old I had gotten ?? @ 52.
Anyway , not so long ago the paw wasn't in our vernacular as being tied to the university.

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:13 PM

That’s 52 years.

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:39 AM

Curious as to why "people still complain today that purple should never be worn on the football field"?

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The paw is an official logo

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Feb 4, 2022, 2:50 PM

A bunch of random students or fans didn't just force it on us. The University actually paid a marketing firm to come up with that.

I am an alumnus, my son is a 4th generation alumnus, and my daughter is a freshman. I hate the woohoo and how they feel about it doesn't really concern me. I graduated in 1990 and never heard the woohoo once as a student. And I dispute your claim about blue vs purple. But we can disagree.

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Re: The paw is an official logo


Feb 4, 2022, 6:09 PM

I just remember orange and white in the early 80s. That’s even what the chant at the game was. And the spring game was the orange/white game. I remember seeing some blue fan gear but at that point I don’t think blue or purple were recognized as school colors.

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:00 AM

Don't change tradition. Go back to 4 yards and a cloud of dust.

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I don't think "three yards and a cloud of dust" was any more


Feb 4, 2022, 2:52 PM

sanctioned by the University and "official" than the woohoo is

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:48 PM

You do realize that someone started every tradition?
Let me do what they want to. If enough people like it then it will become tradition and if not then no one will remember it!

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Sorry, responded to your post below...my bad


Feb 4, 2022, 2:55 PM

Sorry, ecsguru®

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Re: Because it was a change to a tradition, and not an official

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:51 PM

Traditions have to start somewhere. I hate the woohoo, wife loves it.

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Of course I do, but this takes an established tradition and

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Feb 4, 2022, 2:53 PM

bastardizes it. We won't agree. I hate it and will never do it. You won't change my mind.

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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 10:51 AM

He is a youngster and they are the ones that started that stupid yell. History and tradition mean nothing to young people which is one reason our country is in the mess it is in today.

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:02 AM

This is an extreme take. Sounds like what the old folks were saying about Elvis in the late 50s.

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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:18 PM

Yeah, if it ain’t the way we did it in my day, it is EVIL.
No let’s go try to find an RC and a moonpie…good luck to you.
As an old fart, I’m sick of old farts limiting young people due to the tradition argument.
Let’s line up next year in the single wing ala Johnny Majors, without face masks, with slow small white guys as players…
It is tradition guys, it must be done.
I suggest TN add a short Alzheimer’s test prior to posting - sorry, but I refuse to act or think like I’m old…not sorry.

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:50 PM

I was with ya until you made it racial with the small white guys comment

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I guess you aren't one of those (like me) who gripe


Feb 4, 2022, 2:57 PM

about musicians making the National Anthem "their own"? Seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

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Re: I guess you aren't one of those (like me) who gripe


Feb 4, 2022, 5:14 PM

I agree with you in not liking the woohoo, but I don’t agree with this analogy. Tiger Band hasn’t changed Tiger Rag. (well actually they have made subtle changes if you listen carefully how they play it now vs. how they played it in the 70s and 80s, but overall the notes and rhythm are the same.)

The woohoo is just a bunch of silly fans. While I don’t care for it and don’t participate in it, I remain pretty indifferent at the end of the day.

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Feb 4, 2022, 3:48 PM

The woohoo predates Aamir by many years. I'm sure he is genuinely confused about why we hate it.

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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 10:55 AM

If that’s as controversial as he gets, I can live with it.

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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:11 AM

He is young.

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It’s a good day when this is a subject of debate.

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Feb 4, 2022, 1:49 PM

Means things are going well.

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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:24 AM

Come on Aamir! The woo hoo is terrible

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If the woohoo is pumping up the players

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:25 AM

I will change my position to indifferent of the woohoo.

We need a vote from the football players

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We're doing pretty good if this is all we have to worry over

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:45 AM

I'm not a woohoo supporter, but every now and then I find myself doing it. I apologize to those I have offended.

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I am brave enough to say that if he is a WooHoo'er, He is

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:46 AM

DEAD to me.


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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 11:52 AM

If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always got.

Think about how great things would be today if Henry Ford had just been content riding a horse. Life would be much simpler these days and we wouldn't be dealing with a computer chip shortage that prevents horses from being able to walk.

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Wow, that's some leap!


Feb 4, 2022, 2:58 PM

I bet Henry Ford didn't woohoo

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Clemson traditions have evolved over the years from

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:08 PM

uniforms to helmets to cheers, even to attire for games.

Death Valley has evolved into some spectacular venue that I never imagined. Look how the game, teams, staffs have evolved.

Heck, if someone had told me we'd build an Oculus, I'd have asked, "What the he1l for?" lol

Thus, I've taken the attitude of deferring to our younger folks on their preferences, as they'll certainly have to live with the changes longer than I. I will admit to deferring from performing the "Woo Hoo" and still like the "Fight Tigers Fight Dammmmmit, Fight" in the C-L-E-M (or now 1-2-3-4) cheer, AND I do miss our old, beloved "Rat sh*t, bat sh*t" cheer!

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So bring back the paw hand sign?***


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Re: So bring back the paw hand sign?***


Feb 4, 2022, 3:59 PM

I don't care. Let people do it if they like.
I never will.

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Feb 4, 2022, 3:04 PM

People in the stands look at me like I’m crazy when I yell fight Tigers, Fight dammitttt, fight, fight, fight!

I didn’t even know what an oculus was until they started building it.

I don’t mind the woohoo. Doesn’t make a difference one way or the other to me. Now where I draw the line is when some in the student section have started adding expletives during the pause between the “O” and the “N” at the end of Tiger Rag. That crosses a line for me. Big time. It has been around for a few years but thankfully hasn’t caught on much. I find it embarrassing and totally inappropriate. It has been captured on TV a few times and it makes me cringe. Not a good look for Clemson.

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:34 PM

Love Amir and still do but the woo-hoo is awful. I bought the long sleeve and the short sleeve "ban the woo-hoo" T shirts that some group put out years ago. I think Plyler may have been involved in that organization but when they teach it to the freshman students (brain wash them) it is here to stay. Anyone using my tickets and sitting with me is warned up front, don't do the woo-hoo in my presence.


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Re: Still an Aamir Simms fan, despite this controversial tweet..

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Feb 4, 2022, 1:32 PM

I don't understand why so many people are against something fairly innocuous that seems to give young children such great happiness...

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I didn't like it and still don't for the most part

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:40 PM

but people have been trying to kill it for 20 years and it hasn't happened. It's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

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Amari Simms is now dead to me.

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Feb 4, 2022, 12:44 PM

RIP Amari

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Touching hot iron with that one!***

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The “Whoo-hoo” is way, way down my list of concerns.

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Feb 4, 2022, 1:37 PM

I’m 72 and I’ve followed Clemson football almost all of my life.

I gave up on traditions when kids added that extra “fight” in the CLEM Cadence-Count cheer.

It’s hurts my ears, but I’ve decided just to live with it ??

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I don’t like it but it’s better then the mfin N from

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Feb 4, 2022, 2:53 PM

The student section.

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Re: I don’t like it but it’s better then the mfin N from

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Feb 4, 2022, 3:13 PM

Miss the Tiger Band playing the Budweiser jingle or the "where oh where" tune.

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I cannot stand the woo hoo

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Feb 4, 2022, 3:19 PM

But not because of tradition. It just sounds so cheesy and corny!! Pathetic and embarrassing ?? If I was a fan of another team I would make fun of it.

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Re: I cannot stand the woo hoo


Feb 4, 2022, 4:03 PM

You summed it up well.

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Are we sure he is talking about the “woohoo”?


Feb 4, 2022, 5:21 PM

Could be talking about the wooooo at the end of fight tigers fight tigers fight fight fight

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Feb 4, 2022, 6:13 PM

Fight Tigers, fight dammmmitt, fight , fight, fight.

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Feb 5, 2022, 12:14 AM

Nope, only 2 fights. It's a march the extra fight would have you land on the wrong foot.

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Why does one have to be brave to disagree, but still like an


Feb 5, 2022, 1:02 AM

athlete from Clemson? Makes no sense. Like zero. Nada.

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