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TNET: ACC media predicts Clemson basketball to finish 11th
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TNET: ACC media predicts Clemson basketball to finish 11th


Oct 19, 2021, 9:23 AM

 
ACC media predicts Clemson basketball to finish 11th

GREENSBORO, N.C. (theACC.com) – Duke was chosen as the preseason favorite to win the 2021-22 Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball Championship, as selected by media members at the 2021 ACC Tipoff event. The Blue Devils earned the distinction for the seventh time in the last nine seasons and we Read Update »


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Let's give BB another extension and a raise...

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Oct 19, 2021, 9:35 AM

He's clearly earned it (rolling eyes).

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Don't be surprised if that happens. I can't see why that...


Oct 19, 2021, 9:42 AM

guy's still our coach unless our administration has completely given us on us ever being a factor in the ACC.

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And we have a winner!


Oct 19, 2021, 2:08 PM

NM

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Re: Let's give BB another extension and a raise...

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Oct 19, 2021, 9:45 AM

BigCUFan® said:

He's clearly earned it (rolling eyes).




Its too bad that you comment without actually following the basketball program. Almost every year CBBs teams are picked to finish in the bottom quadrant of the conference and every year he does better than the prediction.

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Thirty year season ticket holder here...

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Oct 19, 2021, 9:51 AM

I can count on one hand the number of games I have missed during that time, so I think I am in a pretty good position to fairly and objectively assess the men's basketball program.

How about you?

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Your silence is noted.***


Oct 19, 2021, 3:39 PM



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I mean...don't hate the player, hate the game

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:22 AM

As frustrating as it may seem at times, you can't say he's not finishing above expectations most years. Y'all should beef more with the media for setting expectations low if y'all have a problem.

Clemson's BB tradition has been beat to death here - we typically were a bottom dweller outside of a handful of years here and there.

Does it mean we can't expect or hope for better? Definitely not.

I'd love to see us compete for conference titles and make the big dance most years.

IMO Clemson BB is at a point where it's mostly going to be a group of upperclassmen making noise with okay years in-between. (Easier said than stomached)

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Sounds like a bonus if not a contract extension is in order!***


Oct 19, 2021, 12:53 PM



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I bet JK is getting all giddy about being in the top 67% of

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Oct 19, 2021, 9:42 AM

ACC schools. So excited about that preseason 11 pick!

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Oct 20, 2021, 4:23 AM

If we finish 10th - he will brag about beating expectations.

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Oct 19, 2021, 9:43 AM

Yawn. Sky's blue, water's wet,..blah blah.

Just makes for a better story once we finish 4th or 5th. Not going to be delusional and expect us to finish first or second but I stand by my original prediction, Clemson bball gonna shock some ppl this year. I'm actually excited. Less than a month away.

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We should have an excellent, veteran backcourt

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:35 AM

that still means a lot in college basketball. I think we're better than 11th. Where we finish, who knows? College basketball is almost impossible to predict anymore with all the turnover most teams have every year

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Re: We should have an excellent, veteran backcourt

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:53 AM

I’ll give you veteran but I’ll wait and see on “excellent.” We’ll be relying heavily on 2 transfers who have never played against ACC caliber competition on the regular to be major contributors. Any amount of growing pains by those two and we’ll be outside looking in on the tournament by January strictly playing spoiler in the ACC. Given that’s generally been our role under Brownell I see it way more likely. But hope I’m wrong.

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Q: Where did they pick our fb team to finish?

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Oct 19, 2021, 9:43 AM

Nm

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Whatever choice(s) you make makes you. Choose wisely.


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Oct 19, 2021, 10:02 AM

So if we finish 10th, Judge will declare it a great season and marvelous success.

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No I won’t.

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Oct 20, 2021, 12:27 AM

But you better believe that if we finish fifth or sixth, many of you will call it a failure - just like you did last year.

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The tournament, Judge... it's about winning games in the


Oct 29, 2021, 12:34 AM

NCAA tournament. It's not about finishing 5th or 6th. Not making the tournament, or making it and losing in game 1 ...that would be a failure. Agreed?

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Exactly. Basketball is all about tournament time.


Oct 29, 2021, 7:14 AM

The regular season is nothing but jockeying for position in the tournaments.

He hangs his hat on finishing in the middle-5 of the conference.
Like it doesn’t matter how bad we flame out in whatever tournament we’re in.

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:32 AM

Thats good. They won't see us coming.

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:43 AM

teams turn over so much now with the portal it is tough to tell who will be good even among the most established programs. i think we will be better than 11th but who knows

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Oct 19, 2021, 11:16 AM

Wonder how much BB pays all of these media members to predict such low expectations so that he can "overachieve" every year?

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Oct 19, 2021, 11:37 AM

No, most have Clemson 11th to 13th this season including predictions outside the ACC area. I am actually surprised Miami is predicated higher with a great player like Isiah Wong on the team. They also brought three good transfer players instead of just two that Clemson brought in.

I just hope we get some good news on the recruiting trail soon. 4 star top 70 recruit Vet

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Oct 19, 2021, 11:39 AM

sorry, cont.

Ven Allen Lubin has us in top 4 with Ga Tech, Va Tech, and ND and should be making decision soon.

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Oct 19, 2021, 1:35 PM

Me say take it to the bank, he'll be a Tiger. Where's JK. He hasn't had much to say about bball lately. May be just baby steps but I actually see more enthusiasm with the program this year. Had the 5* list us as a potential etc. A pretty good class so far. Chas classic will be fun.

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I like our team this year.


Oct 20, 2021, 12:34 AM

Excited about both guard positions, and swingman as well. Lots of talent and versatility there.

We will shoot the ball better than we did last year.

We will get after it, defend hard, and be able to push tempo more at times than in previous years.

Hunter Tyson is going to surprise some people this year, with his play and his leadership.

As others have said, the key will be how we manage minutes down low. Hall has to play smart. Bohannon is rock solid and will play a lot. Middlebrooks will provide some minutes when needed. He’s doing to develop into a good player.

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Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Heard Terrence Oglesby on 'The Roar' the


Oct 21, 2021, 8:24 AM

other day, and he has us missing the tourney...for whatever that's worth.

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Lucky Johnson


Let's be honest about the Clemson basketball program.


Oct 19, 2021, 1:38 PM

BB is entering his 12th year. His only real success is one Sweet 16 appearance. How many Clemson fans honestly believe BB will win the ACC tournament and/or reach the NCCC Final 4 in the next 3 seasons? Not me. If you are honest with yourself and fellow T-netters, I seriously doubt there is anyone who truly believes either will happen in the next 3 seasons. That will be BB's 15th season. Giving him 15 years is a gracious plenty amount of time to take Clemson to a higher level. Since it is most likely not going to happen, the only relevant question is "Why BB is still the Clemson head men's basketball coach?"

The answers are twofold. First, the majority of the Clemson fanbase does not care about Clemson basketball. I have a friend who is an alumnus and diehard football fan. Concerning basketball, he told me he would not know (or care) if Clemson was in the Final 4 or had lost every game.

Second, knowing the above and Clemson's completely average (some might say below average) historic basketball results, the Clemson administration (fat D-Rad, Clements, and the Trustees) have zero incentive to pay what is necessary to obtain and KEEP a coach who can take Clemson to the next level. They are, sadly, completely satisfied with an average coach producing average results at bargain basement prices. The financial bottom line is more important than trying to reach the next level.

I generally watch or listen to every basketball game, as long as I can stand the score. So I consider myself a Clemson fan who cares about basketball.

Unfortunately, the baseball program is next up for this same treatment.

PS: I don't have much hope of beating Pitt Saturday. I don't have a problem with a poor offensive performance. I do have a problem with coaches who can't or won't fix the problem.

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Oct 19, 2021, 2:15 PM

I feel it is at least close to what you are saying. Still say with the new contract is more money at close to $2.5 million a season, but the buyout is less than before. That tells me Brad is still in a small window for results. If they struggle this season and don't make the NCAAT, and next year also that will be his last season.

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:24 PM

Don't think it's just bball or baseball. Not a ton of enthusiasm for any sport other than football. I get it, football is king... But as long as I have a voice, I'll voice my opinion upon deaf ears.

I appreciate universities that are truly committed to other sports. Sadly they're not my univer.

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Obviously, the media sees the powerhouse that brownell

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Oct 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

has built and fully expect him to continue to lead us to greatness.

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Oh Great! When we finish 8th or 9th Brad will…

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Oct 19, 2021, 6:10 PM

Have overachieved again! What a great coach we have! He isn’t gonna let us finish 11th ….only 9th best in the conference. And he will be our winningest coach in history still for finishing 17-15 and fining I g I. The 2nd round of the NIT!

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Oct 19, 2021, 11:41 PM



~JKB

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On a positive note, it’s impossible for our basketball program to underachieve


Oct 20, 2021, 12:38 AM

nearly as much as our football program has this year relative to preseason expectations.

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Yeah if you just suck every year there won't be expectations


Oct 26, 2021, 9:23 AM

Brad's a genius.

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Finishing in the top third of the ACC and making the NCAA


Oct 27, 2021, 2:45 PM

Tournament as a top 30 seed sucks?

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Oct 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

I will repeat what i have been saying…we deserve a basketball program that is top 25 every year.

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Why do we deserve that?


Oct 28, 2021, 3:44 PM

Do we have top 25 facilities? No.

Do we have top 25 fans? No.

Do we pay our coaches a top 25 salary? No.

So please, tell us why we deserve to be a top 25 program every year.

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Re: Why do we deserve that?

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Oct 28, 2021, 3:58 PM

Dabo and Brad have been here almost the same amount of time. How many of those questions would have been true for football when Dabo started? Basketball was actually on a better foundation that football when Brad and Dabo came to town. But you’re not actually a Clemson fan are you?

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Are you seriously trying to compare basketball and football?


Oct 28, 2021, 9:20 PM

Because it sounds like you’re saying that Brad had more advantages than Dabo.

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Re: Are you seriously trying to compare basketball and football?

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Oct 29, 2021, 12:07 AM

Based on the criteria YOU listed - yes. Didn’t think you’d actually address it, you never actually answer questions.

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Three things:

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Oct 28, 2021, 4:01 PM

1. They get their facilities upgraded all the time. What specifically are they missing?

2. What does “top 25 fans” even mean?
Clemson is known to have one of the best environments in college basketball when we have a good team.

3. When you complain about salaries…you never give me an answer to this:
Are you saying we have the wrong coaching staff in place?
Or are you saying our current coaching staff would magically win more if their paychecks had a larger number on them?
It has to be one of those two. Which is it?

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Exactly. None of those rinse and repeat excuses are a

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Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 AM

tangible reason for not succeeding.


You're right. The facilities are very nice. Nicer than many, many teams who do better in basketball than us. How did other coaches win here when facilities were worse?

You're right. The fans are also not a reason for not winning. That's obviously ridiculous, but he brings it up every year. As has been said hundreds of times, put a good product on the court, win, and the fans will come out. Just like they have every time we have a good basketball team.

You're right. The salaries are fine. Brad will be making $2.6M for crying out loud, and like you said a larger paycheck doesn't make a guy coach better. Our assistants are paid just fine, but I guess Judge feels they are subpar assistants because the good assistants want more money.

Judge has painted himself in the same corner he always does, and basketball season is a month away. Rinse and repeat.

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Oct 29, 2021, 12:32 AM

Sometimes I can’t believe you’re serious with these posts.

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Oct 20, 2021, 4:21 AM

Sounds about right.
With another down ACC year.

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Oct 20, 2021, 2:40 PM

Think they got them ranked too high

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