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So where would this new BB arena actually be built? Only
Feb 1, 2013, 9:39 AM
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place I can think of is Rugby field or some of the ag fields on the right past practice fields..
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tear down Littlejohn. Play in Greenville til new arena
Feb 1, 2013, 9:41 AM
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is built
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Thx ... makes sense***
Feb 1, 2013, 9:43 AM
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CU Medallion [64589]
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During the 2003 renovation....
Feb 1, 2013, 10:28 AM
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Clemson attempted to work out an arrangement with the Bi-Lo Center to serve as the temporary home for Clemson basketball. However, Bi-Lo Center Administrators believed they were Clemson's only real option and therefore wanted an exorbitant amount of money for the use of the facility not to mention 100% of the concession revenue. Clemson refused and ended-up using the Anderson Civic Center.
The BI-LO Center is now managed by the Greenville Arena District which is a political subdivision of the State of South Carolina. The nine members of the Board are nominated by County Council and appointed by the Governor of South Carolina. Hopefully this change would result in a more cooperative approach in Clemson utilizing the facility.
Another issue would then be finding a convenient and suitable practice location for the teams.
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110%er [7913]
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hopefully they would be able to work better together this
Feb 1, 2013, 10:37 AM
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time around if it does happen.
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Exactly....
Feb 1, 2013, 10:42 AM
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Another issue to consider is, of course, money. It would cost significantly more to demolishing the existing facility than to built on a vacant site.
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110%er [7913]
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but wouldn't you want to demolish it anyway because what
Feb 1, 2013, 10:47 AM
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are you going to do with an arena sitting empty on valuable property? The cost to maintain the building would be a waste at that point. Hopefully we get it right this time around. From the point LJ was renovated until now there have been 4 arenas either built or renovated significantly in the ACC....NC State, UVA, GT, and Maryland. They've made significant investments in their basketball programs. VT has an awful arena that is dated. Pitt has a nice new arena where the football stadium used to be located. FSU plays in a dump. I don't know much about Miami's arena but do know it's only around 10 yrs old.
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CU Medallion [64589]
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I absolutely agree....
Feb 1, 2013, 10:58 AM
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I think the demolition costs would be off-set by the costs of the on-going maintenance of the existing facility.
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FSU has very nice practice facilities...
Feb 1, 2013, 11:14 AM
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located adjacent to the Tucker Center (formerly the Leon County Civic Center). That being said, they play in a municipal facility, which brings its own issues. Clemson doesn't face that.
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There in lies the problem. Its current location is perfect.***
Feb 1, 2013, 11:32 AM
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Orange Blooded [2013]
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Or we could convert it to a pool and get the swim team back
Feb 1, 2013, 11:35 AM
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but alas all of these ideas cost money. Still fun to think about though
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w/ the design of the arena it could be a great big pool***
Feb 1, 2013, 11:38 AM
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Build where LJ currently sits. Play in BiLo center for a
Feb 1, 2013, 9:42 AM
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year. Where LJ currently sits is the perfect spot for an arena IMO.
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true .. i didn't think about playin in bilo center .. they
Feb 1, 2013, 9:46 AM
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should just play in fike. When I was at The Citadel we were renovating McAllister Field House, so we played our home games in Deas Hall, the intramural courts .. LOL Interestingly enough, we hosted Duke there. Place seated about 1000 !!
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I was at a Duke game in the Fieldhouse but don't remember
Feb 1, 2013, 10:34 AM
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a game in Deas.
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Why not build it on the intermural field next to Fike or
Feb 1, 2013, 9:44 AM
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behind the Stadium, then turn where Little john is, into a parking structure with two levels underground and one that stops at ground level, or make it a few levels high.
or no parking structure and open space for new intramural field/parking for football
where will the students play intramurals while the coliseum is being built you say? well heck why not let them play on bowman field! or frank howard field
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please no parking garage***
Feb 1, 2013, 9:47 AM
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Put it in the WEZ parking lot, build a walking bridge
Feb 1, 2013, 9:50 AM
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from the Football area, to the basketball arena, to Jervey area.
You could have a massive integrated athletic complex. The only thing that would be missing is soccer and tennis.
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Lot 5 rules!***
Feb 1, 2013, 10:11 AM
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You'll also pi$$-off alot of IPTAY donors....
Feb 1, 2013, 10:32 AM
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who park in Lot 5 which will ultimately pi$$-off Lot 6 donors after the displaced Lot 5 donons get relocated to Lot 6 and the Lot 6 donors get relocated down to Lot 10 (and so on and so on).
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They can get over it...
Feb 1, 2013, 10:50 AM
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Lot 5 is the logical site laregly because the topography of the land would allow part of the arena to be built into the side of the hill.
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it would be a great location with the natural valley but I
Feb 1, 2013, 10:54 AM
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don't see it happening...it also would have been a great location for the football practice fields right behind the WEZ but that wasn't going to happen so our guys ride golf carts everyday.
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The side of Lot 5 nearest Littlejohn...
Feb 1, 2013, 10:57 AM
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is the proposed site for the new practice facility as it is. It wouldn't be all that difficult to expand those plans to include a new arena.
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110%er [7913]
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it's a great location....you could turn the existing site
Feb 1, 2013, 10:59 AM
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of LJ into a parking lot....not that big of a difference really.
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Back in 2010....
Feb 1, 2013, 11:13 AM
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Auburn spent close to $93 million to build the Auburn Arena to replace the Beard-Evans Coliesum.
In hindsight, I thing Auburn wishes it had demolished the Beard-Evans Coliesum and built the Auburn Arena in its place rather than on the new adjacent site.
Ironically, like Littlejohn, the Beard-Evans Coliesum opened in late 1968 or early 1969.
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I remember that....the new Auburn arena is very
Feb 1, 2013, 11:24 AM
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nice and much smaller
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It is a very nice multi purpose facility
Feb 1, 2013, 11:44 AM
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It's not just a basketball arena.
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I was just reading about it....very nice
Feb 1, 2013, 11:46 AM
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from wikipedia:
"Aside from the main court, the arena also contains two practice courts, a weight room, twelve suites, coaches offices, the Auburn Ticket Office, and the Lovelace Athletic Museum"
Pictures look very impressive.
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I suspect IPTAY feels differently.....
Feb 1, 2013, 11:02 AM
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The people who currently park there are pretty high up on the IPTAY donor ladder. I'm guessing IPTAY would rather not pi$$ them off.
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do you think it would be a big deal to move the parking to
Feb 1, 2013, 11:03 AM
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the current LJ location and simply switch sites which are next to each other?
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You may recall....
Feb 1, 2013, 11:18 AM
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some people went completely ballistic when the propositin of building a parking garage on the site of Lot 5 became known. I'm guessing this suggestion would generate a similar response although in reality, once completed, they would be quite content.
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Some people have very narrow points of view...
Feb 1, 2013, 11:27 AM
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and won't accept change. There's nothing sacred about Lot 5. If Clemson decides to use that land for something besides a surface parking lot then so be it. The attitude demonstrated by the ones that objected to having a parking deck in that location is what's holding back Clemson (and SC as a whole for that matter).
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I completely agree that...
Feb 1, 2013, 11:46 AM
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there are some very narrow minded and self-serving people at Clemson but I was adamantly opposed to building a parking garage on that site.
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If you've ever been to a football game at UNC
Feb 1, 2013, 11:31 AM
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you would be pretty upset about the prospect of parking decks too
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I was opposed to building a parking deck on the Lot 5 site
Feb 1, 2013, 11:49 AM
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Clemson definitely needs more parking and there are plenty of other places where a parking deck would not be nearly so obtrusive. Lot 5 is not one of those places.
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No one cares how IPTAY feels...
Feb 1, 2013, 11:10 AM
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Clemson needs to do what's in the university's best interest regardless of what the fans think. Many fans are extremely narrow-minded when it comes to sports and if you listen to them you'll never get anywhere.
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110%er [7913]
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I'm guessing the AD does care how IPTAY feels since they
Feb 1, 2013, 11:13 AM
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raise the funds responsible for funding the programs. There needs to be some give and take in a good discussion.
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You and I both know that's not true....
Feb 1, 2013, 11:24 AM
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An organization whose donors (in excess of 15,000) are responsible for generating over $20 million in annual revenue for the University are not going to be ignored.
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Remember that Littlejohn would be gone
Feb 1, 2013, 12:40 PM
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That could be leveled and have many more spaces. You would probably free up land and spaces doing it that way vs the current LJ and proposed practice facility.
Since the WEZ, those folks in that lot have had to walk up hills to either the South or North entrances anyway.
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Its a great question but certainly not a deciding factor
Feb 1, 2013, 9:47 AM
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Financing is the deciding factor. Logistics and location are things you figure out if the decision is a go.
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I'd rather spend the money trying to pay recruits in some
Feb 1, 2013, 9:49 AM
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obscure ways. New basketball facilities though would be 2nd on my list.
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Some people have suggested....
Feb 1, 2013, 9:58 AM
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Lot 2 or the rugby field. However, I don't think either is big enough.
Two places I have heard mentioned that might be suitable; (1) a portion of the Calhoun Field Laboratory just off Perimeter Road and (2) the area where Lot 9, Lot 10 and Lot 20 are devided by Williamson Road near Earle Hall.
My preference would be to try to rebuild it on the existing site.
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Existing site***
Feb 1, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Re: So where would this new BB arena actually be built? Only
Feb 1, 2013, 10:31 AM
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In the new AD's mind, only, or maybe cut his pay and put the $$$ toward a new facility.
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110%er [7913]
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probably the only location there is....right where it sits
Feb 1, 2013, 10:35 AM
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now and play in Gville for a yr
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Tear down LJ and play on the courts in the quad
Feb 1, 2013, 12:02 PM
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if they are still there-- rims were kind back in the day
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