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All-TigerNet [12399]
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Baltimore Activist Tyree Moorehead's Better Idea?
Feb 18, 2021, 5:56 PM
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Moorehead who spent 18 years in prison for committing murder at age 15 has come up with the brilliant idea to pay killers not to kill. I have thought through this novel approach and can see this potentially being a way to supplement my retirement income. I promise not to kill one person for a certain amount. I give my word not to commit a mass shooting for certainly a much larger sum.
I am sure there are others on TNet who want some of this action. This is brilliant. This makes the idea of defunding the police look sophomoric.
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Re: Baltimore Activist Tyree Moorehead's Better Idea?
Feb 18, 2021, 6:11 PM
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I don’t know…
Feb 18, 2021, 6:14 PM
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I think if you grew up in an environment that caused you not to fear getting violently butt raped there might be bigger problems than prison not being scary enough.
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Re: I don’t know…
Feb 18, 2021, 6:22 PM
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Re: I don’t know…
Feb 18, 2021, 8:48 PM
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of course you are
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Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 6:31 PM
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I’m not saying paying kids not to kill is the answer... but let’s at least have a discussion about the motivations of young black males. Is it money...opportunity...education...a future...a way out...all of the above...none of the above?It’s obvious that jail and even death are not deterrents, so why not give it (or something similar) a try somewhere to see what happens. Can the cost to incentivize kids to choose a better path be more than the prison and human cost we are paying now?
I have read of a few programs/experiments where homeless are given a stipend...a fairly large percentage get off the street, find jobs, get treatment and become productive members of society. Who knows...
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Re: Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 6:41 PM
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So, what do you propose?
Feb 18, 2021, 7:25 PM
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Build more prisons...make conditions harsher...forget about rehabilitation, just punish and forget?
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Re: So, what do you propose?
Feb 18, 2021, 9:16 PM
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Re: Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 8:54 PM
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Yeah, let's put even more of our citizens in jail.
Are Americans just preternaturally more criminal than the rest of the world, or is something askew in our view of crime and punishment ??
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Re: Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 9:05 PM
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So what would you do to make
Feb 18, 2021, 9:18 PM
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conditions worse than where they came from? That was one of my points above. Life is so terrible where some of these guys come from that there’s nothing you can do to them in prison (without revoking the 8th amendment) that would deter them. At a very basic level, these guys are just trying to survive. Is there anything you wouldn’t do to help you or your family survive...regardless of the punishment?
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Re: So what would you do to make
Feb 18, 2021, 9:42 PM
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There’s clearly no single factor here and
Feb 18, 2021, 10:23 PM
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I don’t disagree that poor choices are a huge driver. But I also don’t think there’s any way to know to what extent a child is so conditioned by their environment that the same choices that might be easy for you or I, seem foreign/impossible to them. These kids also typically are caught in a cycle such that they have no suitable role model or mentor. My wife teaches special needs and at risk kids and says that a lot of the at risk kids are already hardened by the time they are four years old...four years old. So, I understand what you’re saying...we have to punish the crime...but I don’t think that does anything to get to the root of the problem. With all that said, this is a problem that these communities have to be willing to address as well...but I don’t think it’s money wasted to try and break this cycle somehow.
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Re: Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 10:17 PM
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So we are asking questions about the efficacy of our penal system but you are unwilling to compare it to those of other civilized countries ? We should just take your word for what works and what doesn't.
BTW, if you think prison is such a country club, I challenge you to spend a month in one - or to talk to someone who has - and ask them if they would rather be inside or outside.
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Re: Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 10:31 PM
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Re: Right...
Feb 19, 2021, 11:01 AM
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I love it when libbies follow the science and try to use logic.
Presenting data like there is only one explanation. A very common tactic/mistake.
I note that the top two countries are those with the most global influence and highest technology militaries. What does that imply?
What about geographic proximity (Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, Czech)?
I also note China does not show up. Wonder why? Maybe they just kill their offenders to avoid the expense of incarceration.
What are the breakdowns of the incarcerations by offense, offender age, gender? Are certain offenses worthy of incarceration in one country not in another? What are violent crime rates in the respective countries?
Which countries have systemic policies that keep one race government dependent which ensures they live in poverty and crime generation after generation and make up a disproportionately high percentage of incarcerated individuals? Hmm.
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Re: Right...
Feb 18, 2021, 6:42 PM
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Money tossed about is always an easier solution than addressing cultural issues that have more to do with crime than poverty. I'm sure no sane politician will remotely consider this man's proposal. Sorta sure.
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Re: Right...
Feb 19, 2021, 10:44 AM
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Wow, you serious bout dat?
Do you not even see the litany of unintended consequences of "incentivize kids to choose a better path?"
Man, I seriously wish we had two countries, and you guys can implement all these great ideas and remove the excuses for certain failure from anything having to do with conservatives!
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i haven't killed anybody in 64 and 1/2 yrs
Feb 18, 2021, 6:44 PM
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how much i get
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Re: i haven't killed anybody in 64 and 1/2 yrs
Feb 18, 2021, 6:54 PM
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66 years for me. I get more
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Re: Baltimore Activist Tyree Moorehead's Better Idea?
Feb 18, 2021, 8:47 PM
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Wouldn't it be nice if you linked us to the story that motivated you to post this - so that we could check it out, too.
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CU Medallion [50635]
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on the 5 they showed him saying it,even juan didn't support***
Feb 18, 2021, 8:58 PM
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If you make payments to the MOB
Feb 19, 2021, 10:39 AM
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They agree not to kill you and your family
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