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All-TigerNet [11435]
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So Culliver isn't ok with Gay's in the NFL but
Jan 30, 2013, 7:45 PM
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isn't he a #### Fan? Sure he wore a I Love ##### shirt, right?
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Oculus Spirit [93621]
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He was talking about Te'o's gay affair with that little
Jan 30, 2013, 7:47 PM
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other fruit. Fooled into thinking he was a girl, right!
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Oculus Spirit [97682]
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Top story on drudge right now***
Jan 30, 2013, 7:50 PM
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They stroke a bronze #### before games***
Jan 30, 2013, 8:01 PM
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First Time A Gamecock Said Something Right
Jan 30, 2013, 8:13 PM
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I agree 100% with Chris Culliver about gay players in the locker room. I would not ever want to be in a locker room with gay guys looking at my private parts. Creepy, down right creepy. Keep the homos in #### Depot and out of the NFL and college football locker rooms.
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I agree. I understand times have changed and everyone has
Jan 30, 2013, 8:24 PM
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their rights, but when a man cannot say that he absolutely does not want gay men in his locker room then something is bad wrong.
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CU Medallion [53730]
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I agree. I understand times have changed and everyone has
Jan 30, 2013, 8:24 PM
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their rights, but when a man cannot say that he absolutely does not want gay men in his locker room then something is bad wrong.
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CU Guru [1218]
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Political correctness is out of control...
Jan 30, 2013, 8:30 PM
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I agree, Spud. Every man is entitled to his opinion.....and every man is entitled to disagree with other people's opinions. This country is seriously messed up.
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Re: Political correctness is out of control...
Jan 31, 2013, 8:58 AM
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This goes beyond mere political correctness, we're talking about the image of the NFL, not to mention many many truckloads of cash. We're talking hating on your fans (they are the SAN FRANCISCO 49ers!) and probably some of your teammates and/or coaches. As a person who makes a bunch of money because of fan interest in the game, and as someone whose next paycheck will be determined, in part, by how well he is liked by those fans, it's pretty stupid to open your mouth about this stuff.
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Re: Political correctness is out of control...
Jan 31, 2013, 9:36 AM
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everyone is free to voice an opinion. just as this same player often acted like an ### as a gamecock. now he's doing it on an even more public stage. among other's withasigh® is spot on. Culliver's intolerance will not go over well in the bay area. I suspect 49er folks smarter than he is are already working on damage control. I'd be surprised if he is not ostracized by their community and eventually removed from their roster one way or another. If he sincerely progresses on this issue and or at least apologizes. He'll be forgiven. The time is not so far away when those holding to such prejudices will just be laughed at. Thankfully.
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I'm sure some white players in the 1950s...
Jan 30, 2013, 8:55 PM
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Said the same thing about sharing a locker room with black guys.
I'm also sure if the star player on your favorite team was gay, you wouldn't give two ##### about his sexuality any more.
What would you say if Tajh suddenly came out of the closet? Kick him off the team?
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You are wasting your breath...sigh***
Jan 30, 2013, 9:49 PM
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Re: I'm sure some white players in the 1950s...
Jan 31, 2013, 8:27 AM
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You ignorant ####, being a homosexual isn't a choice.
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Sometimes it is...
Jan 31, 2013, 8:43 AM
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"How you doin'?"
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I'm good baby, how are you?
Jan 31, 2013, 8:52 AM
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I don't get why people think it is a choice. You think homosexuals just think one day "Hey, I'm going to make a choice to be ridiculed, judged, and hated my many"!
Then the whole "in the locker room" argument, seriously? Odds are he's not attracted to you, he's not going to start jerking it in the locker room to you, get the #### over it.
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I'm reminded of a scene from Seinfeld.
Jan 31, 2013, 9:03 AM
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"I'll tell you what the big advantage of homosexuality is. If you're going out with someone your size, right there you double your wardrobe...That's a huge feature. When they approach a new recruit, I'm sure that's one of the big selling points."
Anyway, I'm sure the majority are "naturally" gay, just as I'm sure there are those who've adopted the lifestyle for whatever reason.
I'm just nonplussed by the fact that the media and others could respond so aggressively to a statement that could've been uttered by 90+% of NFL players were they really speaking their minds. Really, it's a non-story.
I mean, these guys are all hopped up on deer antler spray, and we expect them to say otherwise when asked?
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Re: I'm reminded of a scene from Seinfeld.
Jan 31, 2013, 9:14 AM
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Please explain:
1. What is the gay "lifestyle?"
2. Why would someone adopt it?
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Re: I'm reminded of a scene from Seinfeld.
Jan 31, 2013, 9:35 AM
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I guess...?
1)
2) FREE COOKIES!
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Well, they're there...
Jan 30, 2013, 9:06 PM
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it's impossible for there not to be some in the NFL (or NBA or MLB) just based on the fact that there are so many players. People didn't want them in the military either, but they were always there.
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I don't care if they're there or not...
Jan 30, 2013, 9:16 PM
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I just care that the leftists in this country have bullied folks into thinking they are no longer able to think for themselves or give their opinion on anything the lefties do not deem "politically correct". Liberals are ok with people having opinions.......as long as they agree with it. It's horseshite.
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Orange Blooded [2713]
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Well said my friend!***
Jan 30, 2013, 11:29 PM
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Re: I don't care if they're there or not...
Jan 31, 2013, 9:11 AM
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That's a load of crap. Your position is that people have a right to express their opinion , then anyone who disagrees with that opinion is not allowed to speak up in opposition. Or do you only mind this when liberals disagree with that person's opinion?
No one is sending him off to prison for his remarks for crying out loud. People say things, other people disagree, they say so, and on and on. It's called a healthy debate.
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did i miss the "other" side's apology from this
Jan 31, 2013, 9:18 AM
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healthy debate?
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Re: did i miss the "other" side's apology from this
Jan 31, 2013, 2:13 PM
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Who should be apologizing? I wouldn't and don't apologize for criticizing this guy's opinion.
A healthy debate does not have to result in everyone apologizing for what they said. And that's not necessarily about who is right and who is wrong. If you debate the issue in a civil manner ("I think you are wrong for this reason, etc," rather than "you are an ####### and aren't entitled to your beliefs") then no one should be required to apologize.
Whether you want to apologize for your beliefs (not the way you voiced them) is another issue. Which brings us to his apology, what goes on between him, his agent, his publicist, his employer, and the NFL media office is between them. Is is wrong for all those people to convince him to apologize for his beliefs, certainly not. People have to pony up fake apologies for things all the time. Boo hoo.
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no boo hoo in my world, but let's not confuse this
Jan 31, 2013, 2:19 PM
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sort of court of public opinion strongarming with a healthy debate; it's not.
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Re: no boo hoo in my world, but let's not confuse this
Jan 31, 2013, 2:31 PM
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Woo Hoo either
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Re: no boo hoo in my world, but let's not confuse this
Jan 31, 2013, 5:46 PM
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Please explain what you mean by "strongarming" in this matter? Was the guy physically assaulted? Was he threatened with jail time?
People take this stuff seriously. Maybe you disagree with them. That's fine. But his employer making him apologize as part of a public relations strategy is hardly strongarming, it's just a smart business practice for both parties. I'm sure his agent told him to do the same thing. I guarantee you the guy had the option to continue to voice his beliefs and if felt strongly enough about it, maybe he would have. He probably would have lost his job over it (did you know the NFL collective bargaining agreement has an anti-discrimination policy for discrimination based on sexual orientation?), but sometimes that's the price you pay for ticking off a lot of people who just happen to pay your salary.
And trust me, no gay groups had to strongarm the 49ers or the NFL to do something about this guy's comments. They did it all on their own.
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he should be able to voice his opinion on his comfort level
Jan 31, 2013, 6:41 PM
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with no less fear of 'retribution' as should any religious, sexual preference or other 'protected' class citizen. you can't fire a woman for being a woman or a gay for being a gay[there are laws against it], but you sure as heck can fire someone for being chris culliver?
there are all forms of 'jail'; it doesn't have to come in the guise of 8x10 cell where they close iron bars behind you.
it should not be a black mark on any level if this is truly a healthy debate as you've called it. there is nothing healthy about holding a man's livelihood at risk because he is made to feel uncomfortable in the work place. i don't have to agree with him, but i'm not going to penalize him either.
i take that very seriously on any side of the issue. companies take it seriously[internally} because they are forced to as they are at risk from legal action; externally for fear of the scarlet letter wielding media.
a healthy debate would suggest it is fair and reasonable. there is nothing remotely fair or reasonable about the witch hunt one-sideness of this issue and/or many others held in the same light.
the media got what they wanted and the only one with a problem is chris culliver? that's rich.
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Re: So Culliver isn't ok with Gay's in the NFL but
Jan 30, 2013, 8:20 PM
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He sure is, and how could he not like queers while he is playing for the "queen" city of the US!!! You should have gave it some thought big guy before you signed on in SF!!!!!
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Re: He plays for the Sandy ####
Jan 30, 2013, 8:56 PM
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I'm surprise he takes such an attitude considering which city he represents lol.
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Honestly, who the #### cares.
Jan 31, 2013, 8:39 AM
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Right or wrong or indifferent, it's his opinion, and he's entitled to it.
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Re: Honestly, who the #### cares.
Jan 31, 2013, 9:12 AM
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And so is everyone who says he's a bigot or otherwise disagrees with him. Free speech means being able to face the consequences of what you say.
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Face the consequences?
Jan 31, 2013, 9:56 AM
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You see, that right there's the problem, and it's societal. We might as well make those who say cats are better than dogs (or vice versa) "face the consequences" for feeling a certain way.
It's his opinion. It's a reflection of a belief that is based on his personal assessment of what constitutes normal and abnormal behaviors. Objectively, you cannot say that what he said is wrong and, likewise, you cannot say that what he said is right.
You could say that what he said is bigoted, but it's not illegal to be a bigot.
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Re: Face the consequences?
Jan 31, 2013, 2:42 PM
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What's the problem with the consequences that he is facing? No ones going to send him to jail. I doubt he'll lose his job, but so what if he did? Employers are well within their rights to fire people for all sorts of dumb reasons, but pissing off a lot of your fans is a pretty good reason, frankly.
There's just a huge difference between public (government) and private (employer) action. No one is saying that what he did should be illegal. Bigoted speech (that doesn't incite violence) is quite legal and always should be. That's because free speech is self-regulating. There's no better way to discredit a dumb idea than to have that dumb idea's advocate stand up and try to explain why it isn't dumb.
As to private action, his employer has to be able to discipline him or fire him for what he said (so long as that speech isn't protected). If you want to tell his employer what you think about their actions, then tell them, or stop buying their tickets, or merchandise. The marketplace can decide if that was a good business decision. Maybe they've decided that it's good business to stand up against homophobia, or maybe they think it's the right thing to do, but that's their right either way.
But all of what I discuss above is good and healthy. People in this country disagree about stuff. We argue. Sometimes we lose money or our jobs over our positions. If you feel so strongly about something that you're willing to risk your job over it, then good for you. Plenty of people have risked a lot more in this country by voicing their opinions (including plenty of gay people). But you know you're taking that risk.
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Well said, Rob...
Jan 31, 2013, 3:08 PM
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I agree with what you're saying but there are obviously those here that do not. Sadly, in another 25 yrs it may well be against the law to say what this player said. Hey, but it'll probably be legal to marry your dog...
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Re: Well said, Rob...
Jan 31, 2013, 5:48 PM
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I doubt it. Did you know it's perfectly legal to say bigoted things?
Also, TD for your super classy bestiality reference.
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I'm more disturbed by his Ebonics.
Jan 31, 2013, 9:53 AM
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His actual quote sounds like a drunk Al Sharpton holding Jessie Jackson in his mouth.
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This made me laugh.***
Jan 31, 2013, 11:00 AM
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The most ironic thing was his double negative statement:
Jan 31, 2013, 11:05 AM
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"We don't got no gays on this team," obviously meaning that they do.
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My personal opinions aside.....
Jan 31, 2013, 3:23 PM
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This guy is being ostracized for having/sharing his own opinion.
In other words people are bashing him because they believe differently than him on this situation.
pot calling the kettle comes to mind. It's a complete double standard and hypocritical.
Why should he have to apologize for his beliefs? Should I have to apologize for mine? Should any of you reading this have to apologize for yours? Just because others don't agree?
That's one of the great thing about America. everyone has the RIGHT to say and feel what they want.
It's ridiculous that political correctness has gotten to this point. A guy is being flamed for his opinion and made to apologize(when we all know he doesn't mean it)
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Also
Jan 31, 2013, 3:25 PM
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No I'm not a coot fan and no I'm not a fan of this guy.
The situation just irks me.
Agree with him or not. He shouldn't have to apologize to anyone for his thoughts/feelings on a certain situation.
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Says the dude playing in San Francisco....hilarious.***
Jan 31, 2013, 3:28 PM
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Re: Says the dude playing in San Francisco....hilarious.***
Jan 31, 2013, 3:39 PM
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Yep luckily there are no gays in san fran
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