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Oculus Spirit [81019]
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Karma circles back and bites me.
Apr 23, 2021, 3:03 PM
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Remember my joke post about giving none of my people raises? The guy I gave a $25K raise and promotion to back in Feb quit today.
I never even got to give him his 4% raise!
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All-In [34486]
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Good lord, was he a tech, project manager or manager manager
Apr 23, 2021, 3:06 PM
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???
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Oculus Spirit [81019]
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Technical dude.
Apr 23, 2021, 3:08 PM
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He's pretty conscientious, and hard working guy. Of the ones on my team, I hate to lose him the most. My guess is he went to a company that has already stolen a bunch of our employees over the last few years. If so..more power to him. He'll make a lot more money over there.
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All-In [34486]
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Really sucks. I think HR hamstrings a lot of departments
Apr 23, 2021, 3:13 PM
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into these situations.
Some young up and comer who's worth $100k on the open market only makes $70k. Manager wants to give a raise and level them out based on market rate. HR looks at the job market, but also at current compensation. Decides they're only worth $85k just because of their previous salary level. "Leveling out" by compensations "analysts" within HR departments is a farking joke.
I only got like 8% more moving from an operations to management role. I could make 25k+ more if I moved companies, but I like my job and the benefits and am frankly too lazy to look elsewhere ATM.
I just have to constantly tell myself that HR is there for the company --- not employees.
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Oculus Spirit [81019]
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HR are like cops.
Apr 23, 2021, 3:14 PM
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They aren't your friends.
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When I left my last job for the current one, I was told they
Apr 23, 2021, 3:17 PM
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wanted to keep me, but couldn't because my salary would have been out of my "slot" and in order to do that, they would have to increase my supervisor's compensation and the department head compensation. So in order for me to make more money, they have to pay them more I guess to keep them that much ahead of me.
Pass, I moved on.
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Heisman Winner [137847]
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Tell them to steal you.***
Apr 23, 2021, 3:14 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81019]
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I've tried actually.
Apr 23, 2021, 3:15 PM
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I may need to look into that again.
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Heisman Winner [135797]
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Since he’s not going to be using it
Apr 23, 2021, 3:07 PM
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can I have what’s left of his $25,000 ?
It’s not like you are going to give it to the new guy.
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Oculus Spirit [81019]
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I know..which is the jacked up part.
Apr 23, 2021, 3:13 PM
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We'll nickle and dime someone new who doesn't know any of our chit, he'll be here long enough to learn it all, then leave for more money. It's the cycle of life.
About 10 years ago I was in charge of a bunch of what we called "computer operators", basically folks who watched servers, did batch processing and print jobs etc 24x7. We had one guy who had been there a while, good employee, that wanted another couple bucks and hour, or said he was leaving. I went to my boss first, then HR, and fought for him to get the raise, they all said "nope". It's outside his tenure/classification. He quit.
The job went unfilled for a few months, so everyone else was working OT to make up for having one less person on the team. When I finally hired someone new...guess what he was making? $2/hour than the last guy who left.
Sometimes, corporate America makes absolutely zero sense.
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All-TigerNet [13764]
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Re: I know..which is the jacked up part.
Apr 23, 2021, 3:35 PM
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It cost WAY more to hire a replacement than it does to pay someone to stay.
Why no one at a corporate level can comprehend this baffles me.
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Orange Blooded [4086]
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Re: I know..which is the jacked up part.
Apr 23, 2021, 5:15 PM
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Two things.
The main one is that the efficiency of the new guy or the poor work that gets done or the overtime by pissed of employees picking up the slack isn't their problem.
The second one is that when one person makes a lot more money it looks bad in their statistics so when they look at giving one person a significant raise they have to look at giving everyone a raise. While the old guy may be worth more money in isolation he may not be worth inflating the entire group plus they don't really care because of the main reason.
Giving a new guy more money isn't an issue because that was caused by "market conditions."
Realistically, they'd only want to give someone more money if they are leaving but if the guy has already found a new job he isn't going to stay so it's a no win situation.
In some industries you have to job hop to get better pay.
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Is that what you call her?
Apr 23, 2021, 3:34 PM
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