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YOUR BALANCE
SCar friends .. We won because of
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SCar friends .. We won because of


Dec 7, 2015, 3:03 PM

ACC refs ... They "wanted " us to win

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That totally explains...


Dec 7, 2015, 3:19 PM

Why they through the flag after UNC recovered. So obvious.

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Re: SCar friends .. We won because of


Dec 7, 2015, 3:22 PM

I think y'all were clearly the better team and deserved to win. But I think it was pretty obvious you guys were getting the benefit of the doubt.

I think the most obvious was the no call on Scott for a clear offensive pass interference.

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"Smelley, Garcia, and Beecher are going to lead you to 4-8." - york_tiger


LOL


Dec 7, 2015, 3:30 PM

HOnestly, I don't think this game was that poorly called, but in no way did we get the nefit of the doubt throughout. GO back and watch our pass rush and the sheer number of non-called holding penalties.

When a DB has turned the corner and the OL has his hands on both sides of him, it is holding. And it happened on dang near every passing down (hyperbole, but it was a lot) and wasn't called a single time.

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BTW


Dec 7, 2015, 3:31 PM

I agree about the non call on the offensive PI. But that is just never called. Should it be? By rule yes, but it just isn't.

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I agree...


Dec 7, 2015, 3:30 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

And you guys clearly are the 4th best team in south carolina
Hahahahahahahaha!

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Did that balance out the several no-calls on


Dec 7, 2015, 3:30 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

obvious defensive pass interference penalties in the first half, or an obvious block in the back on a punt return where UNC was set up with nice field position, or the terrible roughing the passer call on Lawson (I think it was Lawson) where he hit Williams right when the ball was thrown, or the no-calls on obvious holding on UNC's OL against Shaq?

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Are you feeding trolls ?***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:31 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


No, just asking for her opinion***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:32 PM



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"IDIOT POSTER OF THE MONTH SO FAR...GWP-- You have won IPM Award for your failure to completely comprehend a clear post & then choose to attack someone who points out your ignorance. While you are not yet in the same No Class Catagory as deRoberts, ClemTiger117 & Tigerdug23, you are getting closer to the Sewer Dwellers." - coachmac


Go Tigers!***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:34 PM



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You taking turns with Jork or is this an epidemic...?***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:44 PM



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i believe it's more of a spider-fly thingy.***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:33 PM [ in reply to Are you feeding trolls ?*** ]



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I concur.***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:39 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


I guess you missed the multiple targeting calls that were


Dec 7, 2015, 3:32 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

not called, the bull crap roughing call on Lawson, the numerous times Lawson was held with no call, all night..........

Anyway, 13 and Oh.......two in a row...........#1.....Mushchamp!

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All seriousness here...


Dec 7, 2015, 3:33 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

Did you see the blatant targeting on Watson that was not called?

Did you see the blatant hold down the field on the first UNC touchdown?

Did you see the blatant block in the back on Switzer's long return?

Did you see the blatant targeting on #24 during the onsides kick that was not called?

Did you see the blatant holding of Shaq Lawson on literally every play?

I'm sorry, but it's laughable if you think Clemson was obviously getting the benefit of the doubt with calls in that game.

smdh

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Or the botched INT review when you could clearly see the


Dec 7, 2015, 3:40 PM

nose of the ball hit the ground

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I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy!


Dec 7, 2015, 4:07 PM

The ball obviously hit the ground on the reply and definitely "aided in his catch". He fell on it for goodness' sake. How the heck did they not overturn that one?!

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Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy!


Dec 7, 2015, 4:10 PM

You guys can keep posting the rules but you're not understanding them.

Not to mention the defender was going in with his shoulder to Watson's shoulder and it was the crouch by Watson that led to incidental helmet to helmet.

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Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy!


Dec 7, 2015, 4:47 PM

hmm..sounds a lot like the play that TJ Greene got kicked out for, minus the defenseless player. The rules are simply stated...I think you're the one not understanding them.

If you lower the head and do not go in head up, and use the crown of the helmet to hit the helmet, it is targeting. The UNC player was head up initially (look at the .gif), and as he came in, he lowered the helmet and contacted with the crown on the side of Watson's helmet. Helmet hits before the shoulder does. There is no way around that. Targeting is not limited to just defenseless players. They added rules for defenseless players, but it can be a foul to ball carriers too. No where in the rules does it state targeting is limited to only defenseless players.

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Dec 7, 2015, 4:53 PM

You can't discuss anything rational with a coot, why try. The most OBVIOUS MISSED call was the targeting on Brooks on the first kick. If you're following the ball you'd have to be blind NOT to see it. 13-0 and on the to 15-0. Suck it coots.

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Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy!


Dec 7, 2015, 4:57 PM [ in reply to Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy! ]

Final attempt...lol:


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Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy!


Dec 7, 2015, 5:02 PM

Can't be any clearer than that. But I'm sure that moron will still try to argue it. Why wouldn't he, he's an ignorant shamecock.

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Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy!


Dec 7, 2015, 5:09 PM

Classof09 why are you even here??? To back to that hell hole fgf and never return......GO TIGERS!!

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I was discussing the interception, not the targetting call


Dec 7, 2015, 5:18 PM [ in reply to Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy! ]

Why are you replying to me?

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Kind of like the crouch Switzer went into when TJ Green


Dec 8, 2015, 7:11 PM [ in reply to Re: I rarely see this one brought up. So crazy! ]

drilled him? Or, like the shoulder Robert Smith put into the Wake guy last year. Or, the two handed touch Stephon put on Dillon last year. Or.......

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I have absolutely no doubt that's how you saw it....


Dec 7, 2015, 3:38 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

even with your head stuck so far up your a$$.






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Dec 7, 2015, 3:45 PM



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Dec 7, 2015, 3:41 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

I'm just going to leave this here, since we got all the "benefits of the doubt":

targeting:
https://vine.co/v/i7bhFWAeUWY

targeting:


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Re: SCar friends .. We won because of


Dec 7, 2015, 3:48 PM

Hey btw I didn't notice watching live. Doesn't it look like the unc defender almost knocked himself out.

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Re: SCar friends .. We won because of


Dec 7, 2015, 3:51 PM

It's probably not good for the neck to lower your head and ram into a helmet. Should have been knocked out...of the game.

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Dec 7, 2015, 3:52 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

I actually agree with you on the first one. But the one on Watson wasn't. He was clearly a runner and no longer defenseless.

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Dec 7, 2015, 3:55 PM

Defenseless doesn't matter...targeting rule states if you lower the head and lead with the crown, it's targeting.

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Dec 7, 2015, 3:57 PM

pointed this out in another post:
1) He lowered his head before the contact
2) He lead with the crown of the helmet

http://newsok.com/article/3863261
College football: A closer look at the NCAA's targeting rules, Berry Tramel breaks down targeting and the details of the NCAA's rules on targeting.http://newsok.com/college-football-a-closer-look-at-the-ncaas-targeting-rules/article/3863261

"Rule 9-1-3: Targeting and initiating contact with the crown of the helmet. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul."

"WHEN TARGETING OCCURS

Ninety-eight percent of target fouls occur on four types of plays:

1. Hits on receivers.
College football: Ejection will put some teeth in NCAA's targeting policy

2. Roughing the passer penalties.

3. Hits to the ball carrier, either the quarterback or a runner, in one of two positions, upright or going to the ground. <--I don't think that was changed.

"HIGH INDICATORS

Risk of a targeting penalty is high with one or more of these actions:

* Strike: Leading with the helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or neck area. “Not necessarily launching or thrusting upward, but intentionally attacking the head and neck area,” Anderson said. “You're not trying to block the pass. You're trying to get the quarterback out of the game. Your six seconds of glory are either going to cost you this game or the first half of the next game.” Check

* Crown: Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet. “Rather than go head up, he lowers the head,” Anderson said." Check

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Dec 7, 2015, 4:05 PM

Here's the official 2015 NCAA rules: http://www.ncfafootball.com/resources/Rules/FR15.pdf

It's on page 91, stating the same thing.

Notes to Articles 9-1-3 and 9-1-4
Note 1
: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball

Some indicators of targeting include but are
not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet


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Don't have to be defenseless for targeting. Leading w the crown is enough.***


Dec 7, 2015, 3:55 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]



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Dec 7, 2015, 4:01 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]

Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)

No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

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You clearly do not understand the rule.***


Dec 8, 2015, 7:12 PM [ in reply to Re: SCar friends .. We won because of ]



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They are


Dec 7, 2015, 3:49 PM

So jealous !! No congrats .. Nothing .. Crickets .. Blame refs for citadel loss .blah ha ha

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Re: They are


Dec 7, 2015, 3:53 PM

Actually I think the refs made the right call in the citadel game.

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SO did The Citadel. Fullback up the middle. Repeat.***


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