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Roster breakdown for 2022

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May 17, 2022, 1:24 PM
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QB:
Cade Klubnik, 5 star, 6
DJ Uiagalelei, 5 star, 10
Hunter Johnson, 5 star, 30
Billy Wiles, 3 star, 2082
Hunter Helms, 3 star, 2381

RB:
Will Shipley, 5 star, 32
Phil Mafah, 4 star, 185
Kobe Pace, 3 star, 451
Keith Adams Jr, 3 star, 1472

WR:
Joe Ngata, 4 star, 52
Antonio Williams, 4 star, 61
EJ Williams, 4 star, 69
Beaux Collins, 4 star, 86
Adam Randall, 4 star, 111
Troy Stellato, 4 star, 177
Dacari Collins, 4 star, 181
Brannon Spector, 3 star, 522
Will Taylor, 3 star, 1248
Cole Turner, 3 star, 1401

TE:
Jake Briningstool, 4 star, 61
Sage Ennis, 3 star, 586
Davis Allen, 3 star, 807
Josh Sapp, 3 star, 1365

OL:
Tristan Leigh, 5 star, 14
Walker Parks, 4 star, 50
Will Putnam, 4 star, 101
Marcus Tate, 4 star, 127
Mitchell Mayes, 4 star, 148
Collin Sadler, 4 star, 152
Blake Miller, 4 star, 204
Dietrick Pennington, 4 star, 213
Ryan Linthicum, 4 star, 232
Bryn Tucker, 4 star, 286
John Williams, 3 star, 385
Jordan McFadden, 3 star, 819
Trent Howard, 3 star, 1164
Mason Trotter, 2 star, 3403

DE:
Xavier Thomas, 5 star, 3
Myles Murphy, 5 star, 7
KJ Henry, 5 star, 14
Cade Denhoff, 4 star, 104
Justin Mascoll, 4 star, 142
Zaire Patterson, 4 star, 186
Kevin Swint, 4 star, 260
Greg Williams, 3 star, 549
Jaheim Lawson, 3 star, 1396

DT:
Bryan Bresee, 5 star, 1
Demonte Capehart, 4 star, 34
Tre Williams, 4 star, 94
Payton Page, 4 star, 94
Tyler Davis, 4 star, 137
Caden Story, 4 star, 205
Etinosa Reuben, 3 star, 473
Ruke Orhorhoro, 3 star, 745

LB:
Trenton Simpson, 5 star, 26
Barrett Carter, 5 star, 33
Jeremiah Trotter Jr, 4 star, 37
Sergio Allen, 4 star, 218
TJ Dudley, 4 star, 241
Vonta Bentley, 4 star, 272
Keith Maguire, 3 star, 442
Wade Woodaz, 3 star, 518
Kobe McCloud, 3 star, 1183

CB:
Jaedyn Lukus, 5 star, 30
Fred Davis, 4 star, 53
Toriano Pride, 4 star, 80
Nate Wiggins, 4 star, 118
Sheridan Jones, 4 star, 130
Malcolm Greene, 4 star, 282
Myles Oliver, 3 star, 792

S:
Andrew Mukuba, 4 star, 167
Sherrod Covil, 4 star, 202
RJ Mickens, 4 star, 220
Jayln Phillips, 3 star, 448
Lannden Zanders, 3 star, 781
Kylon Griffin, 3 star, 1022
Tyler Venables, 3 star, 1127

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Re: Roster breakdown for 2022

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May 17, 2022, 1:26 PM
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Just curious.

Which recruiting service are the final ranking numbers coming from?

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May 17, 2022, 1:27 PM
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247 composite rankings

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May 17, 2022, 1:27 PM
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5 stars: 12
4 stars: 39
3 stars: 25

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51 blue chip recruits.......***


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May 17, 2022, 1:40 PM
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Thanks for laying it out by position. Shows we have talent at every position for a big season.

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May 17, 2022, 1:55 PM
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Unless you compare it to other top schools.

Then you look at TE and sorely lacking there. On the oline, the talent is there but we're playing our lesser talent.

Leon, you should change Hunter at QB. He was rated a 2* low portal guy. Jmo.

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May 17, 2022, 2:43 PM
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I was looking for his portal ranking but couldn’t find it. I agree that he shouldn’t be considered a 5 star.

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May 18, 2022, 2:46 PM
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Everyone else is listed as their original star ranking, not how they turned out, so seems fair to me that Hunter is listed with his original 5 star. Speaking as a woman, he's definitely a 5 star cutie!

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May 18, 2022, 3:10 PM
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I won't debate that.

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May 17, 2022, 1:51 PM
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Very interesting breakdown, thanks for sharing.

Some on this board continually say "stars" don't matter, I think this says otherwise when you look at our anticipated starters for next year. I count 16 or 17 of our starters that were ranked in the top 200 of their respective recruiting cycle.

It appears recruiting for 2023 is on par with how we finished the 2022 cycle. The majority of our signings ending last year were "fallbacks" and this year, barring something magical happening will be the same. In the last 2-3 weeks, we are now on our third wave of offers going out as we struck out with waves 1 & 2 (minus Vizzina and Joseph, assuming we can hold onto him). What is concerning this that just 2 years ago, we made everyone's Top 5, 7, 10 list, and we are making very few if any this year. The "IT" factor for us seems to have faded. Regardless of reason, it has.

If the majority of our starters for 2023/2024 are already on our roster, this paints an ominous future for us. I like our chances in 2022, beyond that, I am not so sure.

I am holding out hope that several of these early signers have NIL deals that don't materialize and they decide family, future, honesty, integrity and culture are what really matters. Otherwise, I think we will be stacked with 3 star recruits. Some will say we won it all in 2016 with an elite QB and 3 star talent, which is very true obviously however...at the rate we are going, just 5-6 teams will monopolize 90% the top 200 players every single year. College football has never seen this type of talent dominance among so few.

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May 17, 2022, 2:48 PM
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We really have to have a strong class this year, especially defensively. We need instant impact guys on the defensive line considering what we are going to lose. We signed two developmental projects at LB last year, probably need to sign two immediate guys this year. Probably need an immediate impact guy at corner and safety as well.

Offensively, we’ll need a good RB because I can’t see us bringing back our three headed monster. We desperately need to hold onto Joseph for his skillset. We missed on our top TEs and signed a developmental guy, so we need to hit on one of the two that we sign. We likely end up with a couple of 4 star offensive linemen for this class.

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May 17, 2022, 2:31 PM
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I think offensive linemen are the hardest to predict how well they will do in college. The first OL taken in this last year's draft going with the 6th pick out of NC State was a 3 star and the 612th player in the nation out of HS. There are so many OL that just grow later. Heck, Zion Johnson who went with the 17th pick to the Chargers had 0 stars and not rated anywhere. He came out of nowhere. Tyler Smith who went with the 24th pick of the first round was a 3 star and was ranked the 2417th player in the nation. He played for Tulsa. That guy Cole Strange who went to the Patriots with final OL taken in the first round was a 2 star and was only 250lbs out of HS and the 3084th ranked player out of HS. They got him of of Tennessee Chattanooga. Point is, OL are hard to predict. They often mature later.

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May 17, 2022, 3:14 PM
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For sure. Most offensive linemen never get an experience at blocking NCAA caliber defensive linemen. It's so easy to move a 6'0 200 pound, unathletic and weak defensive linemen in high school. It's a major shock to block someone that is 6'5, 275 and incredible athletic.

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This sort of level-headed logic has not place on TNet


May 17, 2022, 3:14 PM
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The sky is falling!! Haven't you heard?

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May 17, 2022, 2:38 PM
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Some who arrived as this or that star have improved their status. Some have not - yet.

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May 17, 2022, 4:37 PM
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man….can’t remember the last time we didn’t have a 5 star on the WR chart

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May 17, 2022, 6:44 PM
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Tee Higgins was the last 5 star WR that we signed

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Roster - 2022: Who among young 3* & 2* will be good?


May 17, 2022, 8:18 PM
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Fine list Mr. Trotsky (I love this kind of stuff).

(?) Who in young 3* and 2* groups among the young (i.e., upcoming FR; RS-FR; and SO class) do you think will have the best chance to become the next Jordan McFadden / Ruke Orhorhoro / Kobe Pace / Davis Allen / Jaylen Phillips?

(This young 3* & 2* pool isn't very big, but these lower rated guys are spread somewhat evenly throughout the team.)

I'll start: Jaheim Lawson (if he can make it in to school) will be one of them.

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May 18, 2022, 9:34 AM
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I believe Wade Woodaz and Cole Turner have a shot to be pretty good.

Wade is similar to Baylon Spector, high school safety that transitions to LB. He'll have the athleticism to be as good as Baylon, just needs to get in the weight and film room.

I am optimistic that Cole develops similarly to the way Nolan did. Doesn't have an elite level ceiling, but can still develop into a major starter/contributor on a playoff team.

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Looks good. Missing a Sammy type receiver for sure!


May 18, 2022, 9:56 AM
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:)

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May 18, 2022, 1:00 PM
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Beaux Collins, Antonio Williams and Troy Stellato have the ability to be effective in the slot and the boundary. Will Taylor has a chance to be really good out of the slot. Cole Turner will show up in a couple of months, but likely has to redshirt. All the other WRs are basically the same.

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May 18, 2022, 2:30 PM
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Correction - Keith Maguire was a 4 star and number 1 rated player coming out of Pennsylvania the year he graduated from High School

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May 18, 2022, 3:11 PM
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3 star on the 247 composite rankings

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