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Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 11:56 AM
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Of all the mistakes and bad officiating, the one thing that would have overcame those things is having an oline that could run block. Having to have your QB throw 70 passes (and throw in the fact he is playing with a bruised shoulder) to move the ball because the run blocking is so terrible you can only get 50 yards rushing is a recipe for a loss. 6 seasons of Caldwell and it's been terrible run blocking other than the last 1/3 of the 2015 season. Our oline men just stand around when you the ball is snapped. What makes it look even worse is that two dline men can come in and have better fundamentals blocking than our whole line. And we aren't lacking talent at oline, they were as highly rated as players at other positions, and we were predicted to have one of the best olines in the country
Criticize the play calling all you want, but an OC's job is a lot tougher when they have an oline that can't open a hole in run blocking
On a brighter note we still can get into the playoffs. Just got to correct the mistakes
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 11:57 AM
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Mitch Hyatt and Fruhmorgan not playing hurt this week
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our run blocking has been terrible all season...
Nov 14, 2016, 12:02 PM
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injuries aren't an excuse, we have had injuries at other positions and we have other players that step up in relief. So come up with another excuse
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Oculus Spirit [83073]
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There was some bad for sure, but when you throw 70 times
Nov 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
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and only give up one sack (maybe two), the OL is doing a lot more than standing around.
Also, throw in the fact that DW was hurt, and it was obvious in our game plan that we weren't going to have any designed QB runs. This allowed the stout Pitt DL do tee off on Gallman without the threat of DW faking on the read option and running.
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Re: There was some bad for sure, but when you throw 70 times
Nov 14, 2016, 12:04 PM
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simple we pass block like and NFL team and run block like pee-wees.
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Re: That is true but robbie did let pitt score 43 points
Nov 14, 2016, 12:11 PM
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How did robbie let Pitt score since he coaches the O-Line?
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He's only had a few months to coach the two 18 year olds
Nov 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
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who played tackle against Pitt. You might criticize him for not recruiting more offensive tackles and the fact that our third and fourth best tackles are 18 year olds.
Next year, we should be solid on the offensive line with more talent available to choose from.
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Re: He's only had a few months to coach the two 18 year olds
Nov 14, 2016, 12:06 PM
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but the guards and center isn't much better. These guys had to run block in HS. Usually pass protection is most difficult to pick up. They don't hold their blocks at all.
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we have plenty of talent, that excuse ain't working no more...
Nov 14, 2016, 1:58 PM
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Youth ain't excuse either. 6 years and he has been unable to develop a solid oline. He just can't coach. There was a reason why the only places he coached before Clemson were schools who don't care about winning in football. Not too mention he was at Vanderbilt 10-15 years before he was here. Getting stuck at Vanderbilt that long doesn't speak too well for his coaching ability. And just because he gives some people a warm fuzzy feeling just because he is from South Carolina isn't an excuse either.
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I'll add that Caldwell is the best OL coach that we've had
Nov 14, 2016, 12:04 PM
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since the 80s.
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Worst we ever had, back in the Woody Dantzler days...
Nov 14, 2016, 2:00 PM
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our oline run blocked much better without all of the 4 and 5 star talent that Caldwell has.
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Re: Worst we ever had, back in the Woody Dantzler days...
Nov 14, 2016, 2:14 PM
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lol holy cow
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He's the best we've had since Trump won Tuesday.***
Nov 14, 2016, 6:13 PM
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 12:06 PM
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Get over it, it's just a game. The world has not come to an end. We are fine. We are 9-1. We will end up the season 11-1 so get a grip.
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 12:06 PM
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We're playing two true freshmen at the OT spots because the starters are hurt and we're calling out the OL coach for not being able to coach run blocking?
I will say Taylor Hearn might could get Caldwell into a spot of difficulty since he was the one who whiffed on The Stuff On 4th-and-1 That Has Now Become Legend, but again, if your solution is to, uhm, put a third true freshman on the field in John Simpson - which Caldwell even did, on occasion - then I would speculate Caldwell is perhaps being judged a little harshly.
Sometimes injuries just catch you out. This would appear to be one of those times.
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 12:10 PM
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only problem with your analysis is we have not been able to run the ball efficiently all season when the starters were all healthy. Now I agree with what you said, but we lost 2 starters off the O-line -left guard and right tackle and now we can't run the ball? Of course Pitt was pretty sure Watson wasn't gonna be part of the run game. Other point -amazing how success has spoiled us!
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well how do you explain 6 years of terrible run blocking...
Nov 14, 2016, 2:04 PM
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outside the last 1/3 of 2015. So basically what you are saying we can only expect good run blocking for a third of a season every six years?
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 5:46 PM
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Hearn is the problem. Just watch how he just stands around looking at the running backs being tackled. The coaches should make him stay on his man until the whistle or he needs to sit.
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You are our version of Manafold. 1 loss and your dumbarse is
Nov 14, 2016, 12:11 PM
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on here spouting sh*t you don't even understand. The O line was without its best player and they still played well. We have just started building our offensive line and we have the players now but a lot of them are young. Mitch Hyatt is an extremely rare talent, you rarely see a true freshman come in and immediately start on the offensive line.
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^^^^^^^^^^YUP^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 14, 2016, 12:30 PM
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 12:14 PM
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When a team puts 8 men in the box it is normally hard to run against. It is simple math, if there are more defenders than blockers is kinda hard to run the ball.
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Pitt was playing coverage, they didn't respect our run game at all***
Nov 14, 2016, 2:07 PM
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Yes!
Nov 14, 2016, 12:25 PM
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Just let me know when you find a Line coach with more wins.
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Give it up, you have been beating this drum beat
Nov 14, 2016, 12:27 PM
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for years and look where it has gotten you.
Where was you last year with this, anyways?
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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learn how to read, I stated the run blocking was good..
Nov 14, 2016, 2:10 PM
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the last 1/3 of 2015. And yes I will continue to beat this drum until we have an oline that can run block. 6 years of terrible run blocking there is nothing to disprove that, and the same excuses ain't gonna work on me
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Maybe it isn't his fault?
Nov 14, 2016, 12:31 PM
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some times players have to make plays. We have some young talented OL waiting in the wings too. We have some nice commits too. Sure the run blocking sucks, but maybe this just isn't our year yet. some of the best OL coaches have bad OL's that aren't that great at times.
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There's a long list of woulda's shoulda's and coulda's
Nov 14, 2016, 12:32 PM
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But in a game where you set offensive records like we just did, I can't imagine that the blame should fall on the offensive side of the team.
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 12:47 PM
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lol
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We are 9-1, probably playoff bound. Surely you jest.***
Nov 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
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Suit yourself...
Nov 14, 2016, 1:16 PM
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One other Southern phrase similar to "Bless his heart" is "Suit yourself." Suit yourself means that someone is being told politely that they are completely wrong and there is nothing left to debate. It is a waste of breath to carry on but one can do so if they like- i.e. suit yourself
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I got a saying for you, you don't know jack squat about football***
Nov 14, 2016, 2:12 PM
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Re: Is this worth reading? I didn't read it 'cuz I can't but it
Nov 14, 2016, 3:46 PM
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lol boom....
TK79s lack of baseball knowledge is only eclipsed by his lack of Football knowledge.
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 1:27 PM
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Really???? Do you even football bro??? We had backups in there and hello the defense was horrible... injuries are a part of the game and there's a reason why the guys that came in Saturday are not starters. Take a deep breath and realize that we are still in it.
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Bro, the line has been terrible all season long...
Nov 14, 2016, 2:14 PM
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Yes I do know football more so than you. Our olinemen completely lack basic fundamentals. That's been a common theme in Caldwell's six seasons here.
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Re: Bro, the line has been terrible all season long...
Nov 14, 2016, 2:16 PM
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You have shown time and time again on this site you know very little about Football or sports in general.
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Re: Bro, the line has been terrible all season long...
Nov 14, 2016, 4:19 PM
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You have no clue if their fundamentals are good or bad. You wouldn't know what to look for if it smacked you in your liberal face.
I know you can't get out the bed because you're so upset Hilary lost, so refrain from making idiotic posts about something you know nothing about. If you think run blocking has been horrible for 6 years, it just shows how little you know.
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Re: Robbie Caldwell has got to go...
Nov 14, 2016, 1:27 PM
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Really???? Do you even football bro??? We had backups in there and hello the defense was horrible... injuries are a part of the game and there's a reason why the guys that came in Saturday are not starters. Take a deep breath and realize that we are still in it.
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What position does Robbie Caldwell play ?***
Nov 14, 2016, 1:29 PM
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Always thought Joey Batson would be
Nov 14, 2016, 2:16 PM
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fired by Tigernet before Caldwell
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Well tell him to go then. Holding it in is bad for you.***
Nov 14, 2016, 2:11 PM
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Glad I'm not the only one saying this.
Nov 14, 2016, 6:25 PM
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And I've been saying it for years as well. At first, sure, we didn't have the depth or the talent. But we are bringing in 4 stars now. Where is the improvement? I've just never been impressed with Caldwell or his resume. Past time to move on. I see Olinemen run right by would-be tacklers on ruNing plays, screens, all the time!.... that's your guy, bud! Put a hat on someone! Maybe they don't want to hit anybody. I've never seen anything like it. See that defender? He's trying to tackle the guy with the ball. Maybe you should get in his way?
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