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TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 18, 2021, 9:28 PM
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Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Clemson is some rare territory for the program lately under Dabo Swinney, but the Tigers' head coach is hoping the Clemson faithful has some longer memories. His Tigers are underdogs in the regular season for the first time since 2016 going to No. 23 Pittsburgh this weekend (3:30 p.m./ESPN). Sitting Read Update » |
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 18, 2021, 9:32 PM
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I’m All In win or lose!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 3:53 AM
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I am as well . Clemson University is my Alma Mater and I will support them if they don't win a game . Dabo is a problem solver and deep down he knows he has a problem on offense . I know he will fix it maybe not this year but next year and the years to come he will . Pitt is going to be a real challenge on the road and they will want to make this game a statement game for their potential CFP run . Hope our defense can slow them down and the offense can score more than 20 points . GO TIGERS !
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 8:15 AM
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All true! +1 Dittos!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 10:44 AM
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All in with Clemson and Dabo!!
Just look around at the chaos at other schools. Dabo knows!
LSU is a train wreck now, and they fired Coach O after their best win of the season. It will take years to recover in Baton Rouge. Only 18 months ago, we lost to LSU and they were 'the greatest'. A year earlier we beat the 'Best College Team of All Time' (Alabama), in a blowout. We have the same coaches, our players have to develop, and it is just happening slowly....
We will get better every week, but we are not a top 4 team right now. We can get there, but it will take a lot of improvement.
Go Tigers, Beat Pitt!!!
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Me too! I love Clemson, and everything about my University!
Oct 19, 2021, 10:42 AM
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We can't forget what Dabo has done for our football program over the last 13 years. Shoot, Bama lost to a two loss Texas A&M this season, and could easily lose to UGA in the SEC Title game.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:47 AM
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Absolutely, I've seen much worse days/seasons than we're experiencing right now, and I hung tough back then, and I'll hang tough now, but that doesn't say that I have to like what we've seen so far this season, especially with all the talent that's on this team. Go Tigers, All In!!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 6:57 PM
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Well, I can say I was not smart enough to get in but I have been a tiger fan for over 40 years, win loose or draw, I always will be!
GO TIGERS
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 18, 2021, 9:50 PM
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Wow...it was fun while it lasted. It sounds
like Dabo isn’t convinced we can win against
Pitt. Great coaches figure it out. Quit lifting
your subordinates beyond their capabilities.
Yep, Dabo ..this season is on you. We did better
with less talent a few years ago...So if the defense
and special teams are doing great and the offense
has gone back into the Stone Age...maybe it is time
to give Willie Korn down at Coastal a look for the
OC. Running a football team is just like running a
business. Over the past 45 years I owned and
managed 3 successful businesses..and yes..I had
the hard job of getting rid of some of the dead weight.
ie. Firing people is a lot easier than telling employees>the business isn’t going to make it..
Bring YOUR own guts Dabo...do what you need to do.
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Korn would be a great replacement, IMO.***
Oct 18, 2021, 9:59 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 11:39 AM
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Calm down Karen. Pretty sure Dabo doesn't reed the comment section of Tigernet - but based on the national animosity towards the dismal offense, I'd say each and every fan has the right to view their opinion to a coach who's making 93 million off it's donor and fan base.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 5:40 PM
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People like you b.c. are stupid. Dabo has some real tough decisions to make soon. If he doesn't fix it by next season we will be Florida State. The game has changed. There are many more opportunities to go and play. Make no mistake the pressure is on him. He has too many former players with zero experience it's going to cost him!!
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Re: We did better with less talent a few years ago
Oct 19, 2021, 7:22 AM
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"A few years ago" is pretty vague. For that matter, "We did better" and "with less talent" are also pretty vague. What are you even talking about?
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 18, 2021, 10:21 PM
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9Wow...it was fun while it lasted. It sounds
like Dabo isn’t convinced we can win against
Pitt. Great coaches figure it out. Quit lifting
your subordinates beyond their capabilities.
Yep, Dabo ..this season is on you. We did better
with less talent a few years ago...So if the defense
and special teams are doing great and the offense
has gone back into the Stone Age...maybe it is time
to give Willie Korn down at Coastal a look for the
OC. Running a football team is just like running a
business. Over the past 45 years I owned and
managed 3 successful businesses..and yes..I had
the hard job of getting rid of some of the dead weight.
ie. Firing people is a lot easier than telling employees>the business isn’t going to make it..
Bring YOUR own guts Dabo...do what you need to do.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:12 AM
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Bingo. I give you this prize.
Firing people is easier than telling them the business is not going to make it.
Great line right there and so very true. Keeping people that are not getting the job done ensures that failure will eventually happen.
They were not getting it done last year with the offensive line and were beginning to fail the year before that. Then comes some inexperienced players and they cannot cover up for the poor performance of coaches that are being outmatched on a daily basis in the CFB world.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 12:28 PM
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It wasn’t just the offensive line it was the whole offense slipping last year. The offense was disjointed and predictable but Trevor Lawrence made up for that against lesser talent. Couldn’t make up for it against better teams. Jeff Scott made a huge difference and TE just isn’t the guy.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 18, 2021, 11:06 PM
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I'm all in with Dabo. I'm keeping the faith!
GO TIGERS!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 8:19 AM
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Me too!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 4:06 AM
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"keep the faith"; For the first time in ten year Dabo needs ,IMO, to show me something other than the excuses he has been offering the last 4 weeks to have any faith that he has a clue as to how to correct the issues we face on offense after half a season.
"Show me something " is more like what "I" need.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 6:31 AM
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Dabo doesn’t “need” to show you anything. Maybe we should just show you the door. It swings both ways - you were welcomed when you walked in and you can freely walk out if you’re not being shown enough. It’s nit all about you chief.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 6:32 AM
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Should say not all about you.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 7:04 AM
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No, He doesn't need to show "me "anything, but he needs to show the administration, the Athletic Department, the families of the recruits he brings in and to the fan base( and that is me) that for that 3 million dollars a year he is making he can fix this problem.
The problems that this team is having this year are no different than the problems Brad Brownell is having, or that Jack Leggett had. Jack is gone, some of the fans want Brad gone and if Dabo doesn't fix the problems ,it may not be long before the Athletic Director might have to re-evaluate things and show Dabo the door.
Think I wrong. Check out what happened Sunday at LSU Sunday.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 7:38 AM
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LSU is ready to pay Dabo far more than what we're paying him to be their head coach.
You just might eat your words if Dabo goes to Baton Rouge and creates a dynasty there.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 8:54 AM
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I won't eat anything. If Dabo goes to LSU ,he goes to LSU.I won't have any say in it. Then I won't have any say if we hire the former LSU coach.
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For someone who doesn't have a say...
Oct 19, 2021, 10:54 AM
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you sure do have a lot to say.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:02 AM
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Dabo makes 9 million a year and has done more for the Clemson football program and the university than any other coach in school history. Until he starts losing 4 games a year , he ain’t going nowhere. I can tell you where you can go though.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:31 AM
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If they give Dabo as much time as they gave Leggett and Brownell this won’t even be a question because we will have won our 4th Natty by then. Y’all have a quick hook after just half a season.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 10:52 AM
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I hope you guys are drunk or high, otherwise your mind is slipping. Dabo going to LSU?
Why would you hitch a ride on a train wreck you can't stop. They have much deeper problems, and they did Coach O a favor by firing him.....
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Yes Dabo does "need" to show us something...
Oct 19, 2021, 7:44 AM
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Maybe we here on T-net don't have the pull and power we think we might, but college football is a business, it's all about the $$$$. It's one thing to have a down year, but this has been a drop off the cliff. The problems are obvious to even the most casual fan. So yeah, Dabo needs to show everybody something. Because, if some of these big money donors get disgruntled and threaten to pull their funding, changes will be made and maybe some that Dabo doesn't like.
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Re: Yes Dabo does "need" to show us something...
Oct 19, 2021, 9:33 AM
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He is showing a lot of people something. The ones not seeing it are looking for the negatives. Must be a tough way to go through life.
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Re: Yes Dabo does "need" to show us something...
Oct 19, 2021, 11:41 AM
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"looking for negatives"
LMAO.
Ever google "Clemson offense" before?
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Re: Yes Dabo does "need" to show us something...
Oct 19, 2021, 11:56 AM
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Thanks for reinforcing my point.
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You've got to be kidding. There are scores of schools that
Oct 19, 2021, 11:08 AM
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would hire Dabo Swinney, but if you think not going to the CFP for the 7th time in a row is cause for Dabo to leave is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have heard/red other than leftie's ridiculous comments.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:05 AM
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rhettfla, sorry I accidentally TD’d your post. I agree with you completely! Thanks for being willing to stand up for Dabo and our Tigers. I have been and will always support our coaches and team. No Matter What our W-L record is. I’m proud to say I intend to keep the Faith!! Let’s Go Tigers
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 4:11 AM
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All in with Dabo.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 8:28 AM
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Dittos! I wouldn't mind a different OL coach, though. IMO, that seems to be the weak link way too often. Heck, I don't even care if Caldwell stays, but I just wish he would develop a tougher and better OL. I do believe if we get that fixed, it will prove to be the solution to most of our issues.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 8:57 AM
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Translation: This will be a crummy year.
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Clemson fans "keep the faith" by demanding excellence...
Oct 19, 2021, 9:01 AM
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And that Excellence starts with the head coach making the hard choices even in midseason. When it's plainly evident that both the head coach and the offense coach have made their basket so small it's all about one guy at quarterback that's not a sign of Excellence.
The great defense we have only secures games when the offense does it's part to score enough points. And let's be honest, that only happened one game this year against a 3rd tier team. The ACC is 1st tier, and Pitt this year is better than most years. This means pulling out all the stops, and NOT being vanilla, and not being afraid or worried. Nor begging the fan base to keep the faith when as HC you know you must pull out those stops, and stop giving excuses, and stop glad handing sarry-eyed fans.
Hope is a great thing. But hope must be tempered with not being stiffnecked about changing dynamics to get the job done. Which was what hiring Dabo was all about those many years ago. Making the changes to make excellence a character trait of Clemson.
I would trade 2021 Dabo in for 2011 Dabo in a heartbeat. Because 2011 Dabo was making the choices that led to excellence rather than keeping the status quo that kept Clemson in the dolldrums under Bowden.
This fan supports the 'Clemson Tigers' long term. Not 'Dabo Swinney' not 'Tony Elliott' not 'DJU' who will come and go over the years. They can fail utterly or be heroes, but the 'Clemson Tigers' will remain my team.
Maybe its time for Dabo and the 'personnel' fans to remember they are only part of the long traditions of Clemson. If you want a legacy of excellence then be excellent by doing the thing which lead the Clemson Tigers to it!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:04 AM
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I am still behind Clemson, but like all of us fans I have genuine concerns. In this world of immediate media content a good program can become a bad program virtually over night One bad season, one wrong recruit choice at a key position, and a college football program can be a decade in recovery due to loss of recruits.
Again, while I hope for the best, the coaching staff at Clemson is in aggregate the highest paid football coaching staff in the nation. High expectations and great results are warranted. Dabo Swinney needs to stop hiding behind what great kids all his players are and start taking responsibility for the fact this the extremely overpaid coaching staff is not getting the job done.
I don't blame any of the players at this point. I know alot of heat has been applied to D.J., but perhaps D.J. is not getting the coaching he needs. We have seen it in other places where the difference between a good qb and a great qb is coaching. same for offensive lines and wide receivers. Coaching at all levels on offense is falling short and it is very obvious. The young men are all top notch recruits so the only explanation is coaching. until the staff stops hiding and takes it on the chin it will only get worse.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:14 AM
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These posts bewilder me. We’re 4-2. We lost to the #1 team by 7 points, and in a double OT game. Our wins we’re pretty and could have been losses, but they weren’t. We need help, but we still could get to the ACC championship game. But even if we don’t, the world isn’t coming to an end. This year is long from over and the end point has not been decided. We need to get behind our Tigers and stop this wooh is me nonsense. These players want to win. They expected to be winners when they signed on at CU and they work every day to accomplish that goal. Let’s get behind them and stop this bickering and negativity. Go Tigers.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 9:29 AM
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This looks like a two - three year work in progress. Forget about championships. It happens to every team (except Alabama) - the journey will be interesting to watch. By 2024 we should be back on top of the ACC.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 12:10 PM
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Even Alabama has had to struggle from time to time, just not recently. They were pretty average between 2000-2007 but they have been very good from 2008-Present.
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LOL....another SPIN job for DJU's inconsistencies.
Oct 19, 2021, 11:24 AM
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"our quarterback is getting better. He really has. He’s played his two best games in a row..."
Sooooo.....we're discounting the BC and ND wins last year because they weren't "IN A ROW"?
Sweeney putting any positive spin on DJ, possible.
I don't expect less. Not like he can come right out and say "this kids gonna be transferring to a D2 school within 12 months"
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Re: LOL....another SPIN job for DJU's inconsistencies.
Oct 19, 2021, 12:15 PM
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He's talking about his 2 best games THIS SEASON.
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Re: LOL....another SPIN job for DJU's inconsistencies.
Oct 19, 2021, 4:49 PM
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It's a spin job on '2 best games'. From a QB performance standpoint the BC game was a disaster. Of the incomplete passes, most were DJU throwing them away a HUGE amount of time.
They got 2 weeks to prep for Syracuse and the best they managed was he didn't throw as many balls away. But he definitely wasn't very good at pinpointing several long balls to Ross.
It's true that DJ's not the only problem, but he's causing more problems besides his bad passing. The 'vanilla' play calling is more for him than the receivers or OL. I have a feeling he simply can't put up more effort than we've seen from him this season. He can't make that next step that separates average QBs from great and excellent QBs. He was expected to be better than we've seen, even if not as good as TL and DW or TB. But I think it's clear whatever the issue surrounding him boils down to, for the team the best move is to give TP the reins for a couple of quarters to see if he can spark the offense from near dead ashes to a roaring fire.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 5:44 PM
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I agree 100% and I think people that have had doubts aren't true clemson fans. I'm behind our coaches and players good and bad and have been close to 60 years and not going to stop now .I think some of the people making comments are trolls trying to start thing
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 5:48 PM
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You are the coach. we are the fans.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 5:51 PM
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I read these comments on here and if I were most of you I would be ashamed to say I'm a Clemson fan the way you are acting. Dabo has brought more notoriety, higher caliber athletes, more championships be it ACC or National than any other coach in Clemson history. All the wins he has brought to the program, you want to blast him for two losses. One to a potential national champion who didn't score an offensive touchdown on us, and the other to a top 25 team. I see a bunch of hypocrites that wanted other teams in the ACC to step up and challenge Clemson to make us look better, but then you want to cry when it happens and we take a loss. That's like saying you love your wife or husband until they make two bad meals and then they have to go. The same ones who are screaming for his head are probably the same ones who didn't want him hired in the first place. As far as hi having to answer to Iptay donors and fans buying football tickets, they were doing that before he was the coach and you all would still donate and buy tickets if you are true Clemson fans. Dabo has encountered problems with the team before and has always fixed them. All across the football landscape this year, nothing is as anyone could have predicted. We haven't completely fallen apart like another "Tiger" team did immediately after winning a national title. So, for all you couch coaches that never played football except in the backyard, why don't you leave the negativity away from the team because they have enough pressure on them as it is. I don't care how many stars these kids had coming out of high school, they are still young men who make mistakes, succumb to pressure, but have the opportunity to grow and learn. Be true Clemson fans and give them that opportunity. It's remarks like most of these I see on Tigernet are the reason Dabo would have them stay off social media. I am all in!!! Let's all be as well.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 19, 2021, 6:18 PM
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DJHOTPOET I agree with you I think people forget what clemson was like before Dabo took over and it took him Tim to build everything but after he did he started bringing in more 4 and 5 star recruits totally changed the atmosphere and brought in the money to do a major overhaul to the whole complex help build softball field and with other help started different things like paw journey to help better some of these young men. So I'm like you I think he has a plan and I trust him and for all the nay sayers tell me another coach and team that wins their division every year and goes to CFP every year not many so if we miss one I don't think it's the end of the world ??. But if anyone wants before they play Pitt this weekend I'll make a bet that Clemson finishes 10-2 for the year lol
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls on Clemson fans to "keep the faith"
Oct 20, 2021, 6:12 AM
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Everyone needs to calm down. We are blessed with a great coach with true character leading our program and I have no doubt he will work through this. Its foolish and short sighted to think there won't be ups and downs. The college game has changed and our program will adapt as necessary. As a Clemson grad from the early eighties I witnessed the first National Championship in Miami and the highs and lows before and after. We have a unique University and the right man is running our program. I have 100% confidence in Dabo and will remain "all in".
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