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are people really fleeing the West coast?
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are people really fleeing the West coast?


Apr 17, 2021, 3:43 PM

I got all kinds of free time this morning/afternoon so i thought i'd check and see if there is in fact an exodus for the west coast.

just an FYI, 2 of my kids are on the West in college, and I go there lots, and have personally not seen evidence of this great migration, so what are the facts?

this is just for Cali...I haven't checked Oregon or Washington yet

https://ktla.com/news/california/study-there-was-no-california-mass-exodus-amid-pandemic-but-more-people-are-leaving-bay-area/#:~:text=The%20share%20of%20residents%20leaving,did%20change%20some%20historical%20patterns
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Yes, I have 3 relatives and their families moving


Apr 17, 2021, 3:57 PM

From cali to NC. They've been in cali for 25.yrs and they can't take.ir anymore.

They are all going to get new jobs out east. Leaving everything behind to get away from the madness

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Wrong


Apr 17, 2021, 3:57 PM



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Re: Wrong


Apr 17, 2021, 4:11 PM

haha should I? on your own graph Oregon is green or teal or whatever color that is. people moving to a Blue states *clutches pearls

I know California quite well and lived in 2 cities there before myself. People move in and out all the time, for various reasons, to become a movie star, for jobs (.com, and more recent tech boom), for sun. beaches, and whatever. People also move out for various reasons. for example when the .com bust happened I know that lots of folks lost a fortune, and prices had gone so high things were just not affordable. then the mass move in happened. Mayer Ed Lee made gave tax cuts to business to come to SF. Now many people can work remotely (even in another state) for whatever company they are part of. I know several people that have moved away, and I know many that have moved there.

The link I provided says it went up from 16% to 18%, thats hardly a mass exodus. And when Covid is over (coz Cali had strict covid rules) it will again be people moving in

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Apr 17, 2021, 4:16 PM



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The migration to Oregon is from Calif same with Idaho


Apr 17, 2021, 4:20 PM

I feel sorry for Idaho.

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Re: The migration to Oregon is from Calif same with Idaho


Apr 17, 2021, 9:01 PM

Yeah but in SC we are #2. Just friggin great. They move here from their broke blue states and vote the same stupid way.

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Re: The migration to Oregon is from Calif same with Idaho


Apr 17, 2021, 10:43 PM

Tell them North Carolina sucks

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Re: The migration to Oregon is from Calif same with Idaho


Apr 18, 2021, 5:47 AM

I grew up in NC , lived the past 33 years in SC. NC was great until it was invaded by liberals.

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I live in a very conservative county in NC


Apr 18, 2021, 6:14 AM

retirement and golf. As people get older they get wiser and therefore more conservative.

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Re: I live in a very conservative county in NC


Apr 19, 2021, 4:03 PM

I’ve heard it said “If you’re 20 and Republican you have no heart. If you’re 40 and democrat you have no brain”. Some people grow out of liberal ideas when they start a business, pay taxes, live in the adult world, etc.

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Re: Wrong


Apr 17, 2021, 4:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Wrong ]

ur right its not that difficult. And I never said people have not moved form California, I clearly said above that people do, but they always have. I would also agree that less people are moving to Cali, again stated in my link. I think perhaps we are arguing severity...I say its not a mass exodus or people in droves, while agree that 2% is indeed more people.

btw in a state with 40+ million people "several hundred thousand" aint that much

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50th out of 50 Einstein***


Apr 17, 2021, 4:25 PM



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Re: 50th out of 50 Einstein***


Apr 17, 2021, 4:28 PM

good when my eldest is ready to buy a house next year, their be lots of empty cheap houses available in these California ghost towns

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Massive increases in Calif of illegal aliens


Apr 17, 2021, 4:30 PM [ in reply to 50th out of 50 Einstein*** ]

When I left Calif in 1980 it was 67% white. Today it is 36% white or almost half. A lot of people are leaving but a lot of people come there every day too. Demographics are changing.



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For total migration.


Apr 19, 2021, 3:45 PM [ in reply to 50th out of 50 Einstein*** ]

With New York and Illinois, two other very populous states, nipping at their heels.

For net migration per 1,000 residents (which is the real factor to look at), Cali isn't last. Seven states are behind them. It's still not good; people are still leaving (can't blame them with the taxes and cost). But Oregon and Washington are doing quite well.

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Ummmm...


Apr 19, 2021, 3:40 PM [ in reply to Re: Wrong ]

Two of the three West Coast states are net positive. The OP was about the West Coast.

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You are ignorant


Apr 17, 2021, 8:31 PM [ in reply to Re: Wrong ]

There is a lot more to Oregon than the libtard cities

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Um, lemme help here


Apr 19, 2021, 3:39 PM [ in reply to Wrong ]

Based on your two links.

In the UHaul one (LOL), it says Oregon is #3. That's West Coast, last I checked.

In your Wikipedia one, California had the most total (because it has the most people) but a net of -5.15 per 1,000 residents. Oregon and Washington had positive net migration.

So, two of the West Coast states are increasing, and Cali isn't decreasing as much compared to others. Chances are good Cali folks are migrating north.

Your links helped make his case.

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more for ecomic reasoans for the northern parts


Apr 17, 2021, 4:08 PM

but Socal will be out of natural sources of water in our lifetimes. I feel sorry for people strapped to 40 year mortgages only to see their homes go up in flames.

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Re: more for ecomic reasoans for the northern parts


Apr 17, 2021, 4:18 PM



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there's quite a bit of water not too far from Calif


Apr 17, 2021, 4:22 PM [ in reply to more for ecomic reasoans for the northern parts ]

it's called the Pacific Ocean; they aren't running out. This is where some of my family gets their water.

https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/gov/depts/pw/resources/system/sources/desalination/default.asp

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Hopefully they just fall in it instead***


Apr 17, 2021, 4:24 PM



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Yes, definitely...


Apr 19, 2021, 3:50 PM

A natural disaster that kills millions and millions of Americans is what we need. Perfectly normal post.

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Re: are people really fleeing the West coast?


Apr 19, 2021, 3:24 PM

Beaches and good weather can only hold out so long. LA has been a chit hole for a long time. Soon San Fran will be the same. Let's sell it to Mexico and be done with it.

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