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Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 10:58 AM
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There's been some doozies:
Lincoln Riley leaving OU with zero warning or notice
Brian Kelly leaving Notre Dame not only with zero warning but not long after saying he wasn't going anywhere
But I think the most classless move comes from the most classless university, The U, who started entertaining a new coach weeks, maybe months, before the current coach was fired, and even was content to let it play out in the media that they were looking at someone else, all while keeping the current coach employed and apparently not speaking to him directly about it. Then there's Cristobal, the new coach at the U, who was complicit and didn't seem to mind entertaining a job that was not an open position. Manny Diaz should be major league ticked, and hopefully he has a fat buyout coming from them in return. They treated him like crap the last few weeks, if not more.
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^^ and poor ole Manny was out there loyally recruiting
Dec 9, 2021, 11:02 AM
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until they pulled him in and said “Your Fired!” Geez.
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Loyalty is a 2 way street
Dec 9, 2021, 11:09 AM
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If Manny Diaz had a 10-win season and was interviewing for a better job he would have been pilloried by the fanbase. Instead, the administration really took a dump on him while he was down. Coaches (and their agents) understand you have to strike while the iron's hot, because if it ever cools off you'll be terminated with prejudice.
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Re: Loyalty is a 2 way street
Dec 9, 2021, 11:51 AM
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You mean like Diaz's loyalty to Temple when he ditched them 2 weeks later to take the job at the U? IMO Diaz, Miami, Cristobal and maybe even DRad are all cut from the same cloth.
Corruption deserves whatever bad karma comes its way.
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Re: Loyalty is a 2 way street
Dec 9, 2021, 11:54 AM
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Let's not forget how Manny got the Miami job. 18 days earlier he had signed on to be the head coach at Temple and had signed 17 players to their team. Then Mark Richt suddenly resigns the Miami job and poof! Manny is gone. Somehow I don't think the folks at Temple are lamenting the way that Miami treated Manny.
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Orgeron fired 2 years after winning a Natty
Dec 9, 2021, 11:06 AM
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That has to take the cake for me from a "WTH are you doing" perspective.
But the Lincoln Riley situation is certainly the most fascinating. He left in the middle of the night. He cherry picked the staff. Some of the best players at OU hit the transfer portal. And, many of his best incoming recruits backed out of their commitment to OU and will sign with USC. Lincoln Riley destroyed OU and it took about 2 days. I've never seen anything like it. But I'm afraid this may be the 'new normal' for P5 coaches.
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Re: Orgeron fired 2 years after winning a Natty
Dec 9, 2021, 11:15 AM
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Orgeron was fired as much for off the field stuff as he was for the program going in the tank on the field after winning the championship.
He made it an easy choice for LSU with his personal choices.
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Re: Orgeron fired 2 years after winning a Natty
Dec 9, 2021, 12:16 PM
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SoCal has a history of hiring coaches in the dead of night. Lame Kiffin was a good example. Ask any Vols fan what they think of the boy wonder and you'll get a water bottle thrown at you.
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Re: Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 11:07 AM
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I agree that was just wrong.... Was reading an article grading coaching hires and in that article VT's hire received the lowest grade. Of course no one can predict the future, but Penn State's DC was not someone that I would say is was exciting here...
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Re: Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 12:02 PM
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I don't put a lot into the grades. For example.
Clemson. The hire: Swinney, who was recruiting coordinator and wide receivers coach until Tommy Bowden was whacked in midseason. The grade: D-plus.
Swinney was part and parcel of a failed season, but somehow got a promotion out of the deal. Who knew that beating Duke and Virginia could lead to such ample rewards? Clemson fans loved the fact that the Tigers closed the regular season by beating rival South Carolina. But hey, Bowden beat the Gamecocks seven times in nine tries and look where that got him. Swinney has the same thing going for him that Sarkisian has at Washington: the in-conference competition in the ACC isn't that stiff.
Also on that list: Auburn. The hire: Chizik. The grade: F.
Sure, the Chiz floundered out but not before winning it all. So two of the three lowest grades ended up winning a national title. The other was Doug Marrone (not counting a rehire).
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ABSOLUTELY . . .
Dec 9, 2021, 11:21 AM
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Regardless of one's assessment of Diaz as a HC, Miami should have at least had the balls to be decisive and direct about what they were going to do. It was weak, indecisive, disrespectful, and scared. If they think they are all that, they should have the guts to dismiss their coach without worrying about when the next hire would be made. They acted scared, like they were hedging, and were very disrespectful to Diaz.
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Need to differentiate between HOW the move was handled
Dec 9, 2021, 11:22 AM
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vs the actual move itself. Riley's handling of his move may have been the worst, but that move itself was probably the best of the lot, as far as relative potential success. He essentially looked at the SEC, then looked at USC, and said "Hal yeah, I LOVE me some Southern California!"
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Re: Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 11:52 AM
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Georgia tech keeping coach collins.
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Re: Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 12:03 PM
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Shane Beamer. He deserves better.
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Wasn't that LAST year?***
Dec 9, 2021, 12:09 PM
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Re: Wasn't that LAST year?***
Dec 9, 2021, 12:20 PM
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Technically, you are correct. It was December of last year when Shane made the fateful move. Wikipedia says 2021. No one ever said Wikipedia was a great source.
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Re: Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 12:11 PM
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My pick Mullen at Florida. There comes a point where constant change just erodes away at a program. If you have a good coach, keep with them.
Ok, Mullen lost the team. That is bad. But really this is about Florida and stability. When Urban Meyer's six-year stint is you most stable coach in the past 20 years... put down the buy-out checkbook. We have had two coaches to their 6 since we hired Tommy Bowden including Tommy Bowden. Ouch.
Zook, Meyer, Muschamp, McEwlain, Mullin, the Nap.
Bringing in Napier breaks the M&M&M&M pattern but can he last past 4 years. Is he an upgrade over Mullin? It won't be more fertile that is for sure.
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Re: Worst move on the coaching carousel this year?
Dec 9, 2021, 12:22 PM
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Makes me wonder how DanRad will fit in. I think he had more class than any of that crowd but something makes me think that instead of cleaning up that trash bin, he will start to stink like hot garbage!
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