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Why does Clemson struggle with OL recruiting

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:30 PM
 

It's definitely our weakest area.

And sure you could say "what about Mitch Hyatt" but his uncle played for the '81 team. And he was our first and only 5* OL commit.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:36 PM
 



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OL is the hardest position to predict who is going

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:38 PM
 

to be good. With that being said, our OL recruiting has been better the past few years. We've gotten good talent but been hit with Fruh transferring quite a few OL that had career ending injuries.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:27 PM
 

I am sure he's talking about HISTORY wise.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:13 PM
 

Yes exactly. Thank you. People get pretty aggressive here

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:14 PM
 

only when people say stupid stuff

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or,


Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 5:49 PM
 

assume things in stupid way.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 9:05 AM
 

2006 ain't 2016

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 10:51 AM
 

Like JK Jay. He would have been a stud I think. I believe it is getting better, but the elite kids need to know we put kids in the NFL. That is changing and with Crowder. Hyatt and Guerrimo it will.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:39 PM
 

Lost me on this one, past 2-3 years OL recruiting has heated up. If anything I think we have struggled recruiting at RB since Burton Burns left.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:05 PM
 

Agree with balm,Rb recruiting has been the struggle to me.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:20 PM
 

Agreed.

It seems harder to convince these RBs today to commit to the spread. They wanna run the pro style for the touches.

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Re: Why does Clemson struggle with OL recruiting


Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 5:34 PM
 

maybe the OP has been in a coma since the Tommy Bowden area? We have improved 100% since then, I wish we could land a 5 star RB to run behind them. We haven't been able to bag a blue chip back in a while.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 5:58 PM
 

Have YOU been in a coma? We literally got a 5 star back with Feaster. And I would consider Etienne a blue chip.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 10:56 AM
 

I would disagree, but maybe only because of the stars beside their names. On field production has changed due to change in scheme. Feaster was a 5 star by some and Gallman, Choice and Feaster were all 4 stars. As was Tyshon Dye and Zac Brooks. I think we hAve good rbs just not elite.......yet.

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We have a large number of 4 stars...


Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:40 PM
 

so that doesn't really worry me.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:40 PM
 

Don't worry big guy we about to reel in another 5 star OT in carmen who might have more upside bc of his size and technique he already has. Oh and if that's not enough we most likely going to get the #1 or #2 OG in the country maybe both and all 3 of those guys with Carmen Salyer and I forget the new 1 OG but he also has us in his top all are top 30 overall recruits

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:56 PM
 

I would absolutely love that, but seems pretty optimistic. I think we can win Carman but it's gonna be hard for us to steal Salyer from his home state team whose run-based offense is perfect for OGs.

I never count Dabo out though. And there's still so much time.

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It's assuming a lot but I think the reason asiedu went to

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:00 PM
 

Penn state is bc Jackson may be a silent commit. I think we will be fine.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:18 PM
 

Definitely not the reason, but ok. We will always be fine, we seem to develop players well, and our system doesn't require extended pass protection. Just curious as to our history of OL

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:12 PM
 

HEs one of the ones XT is going after and the new #1 OG in ESPN is from Georgia too. I think we land one of the two and yea landing all 3 is optimistic but landing 2/3 is a very real shot

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What? One of worst offensive lines they have had was


Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 5:28 PM
 

last year. Didn't see the coot/ga game but I'm sure dawg OL looked good then.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:41 PM
 

Coot.

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This is a major concern I've always debated. Food wise,

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:45 PM
 

are there any steakhouses in Clemson?

Consider this: The Crimson Tide have TWO Japanese steakhouses on either side of a Longhorn's less than a mile from the football stadium. Not to mention a Texas Roadhouse, numerous BBQ joints, and an upscale steakhouse at the other end.

Something to think about.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:21 PM
 



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All the recruiting has been upgraded.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:54 PM
 

OL is getting there as well. We're not struggling. That was the past.

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Re: All the recruiting has been upgraded.


Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:06 PM
 

right. There's obviously an overall improvement, in all positions, thus the national championship.

But I'm mostly referring to Nana, Richard Gouriage, Max Wray...these are guys we can seem to excite and swing our way some, but ultimately we lose out on them.

And other than Carman and Gouriage, who are we looking at?

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Re: All the recruiting has been upgraded.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:20 PM
 

We will prob only talk one tackle in Carmen which I think we land but we are also going after the #1 and #2 OG in the country one by last name Sayler he's I think espn 29 overall he has us in his top group and is one XT is recruiting to clemson and the new #1 OG deontrey Hill who is top 25 has us in his top group as well I think we land one of those 2 best guards as well as the best OT in country in Carmen. I don't know the numbers on how many we taking but land Carmen and Salyer/Hill and it will be a truly stout oline class maybe one of our best even with small number. Just wait more big boys on the oline are coming. Not to mention our oline recruiting has gotten far better we just signed an under armor all American in the 17 class so idk what your really even talking about

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We didn't miss on Nana and Wray

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:57 PM
 

A few prospects higher on our board with the limited number of open scholarships available.Wray wouldn't have been(too much DADDY BS) an option and Nana would be the second option ,he chose not to wait.

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Well...

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:31 PM
 

Pollard was the number 10 OG in the nation.
Hyatt as we all know.
Jake had great offers and ranking.
John Simpos was the #3 OG by 24/7 and had great offers.
DeHond as offers from

Clemson Yes
Alabama Yes
Arkansas Yes
Kentucky Yes
Louisville Yes
Miami(FL) Yes
North Carolina Yes
Pittsburgh Yes
Purdue Yes
Rutgers Yes
South Carolina Yes
Temple Yes
Virginia Yes
Virginia Tech Yes
Wisconsin Yes


Blake Vinson offers

Clemson Yes
Alabama Yes
Auburn Yes
Boston College Yes
Duke Yes
FAU Yes
Georgia Tech Yes
LSU Yes
Miami(FL) Yes
Mississippi Yes
North Carolina Yes
North Carolina St Yes
South Carolina Yes
South Florida Yes
Vanderbilt Yes
Virginia Tech Yes


We are in the hunt for a couple of great ones in this next small class too. It gets better and better. You're complaining about nothing. It used to be weak.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 9:11 AM
 

I'm with you. What is the op smokin. I want some.


Our OL recruiting history wise? 2006 ain't 2016. We have recruited well on the o line recently . Wake up

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 12:59 PM
 

We just whipped Bama to win a NC and we are struggling on our OL. Nice try coot.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:22 PM
 

I talked about OL recruiting, not OL development. We can surely develop players.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 9:12 AM
 

It's been good recently. What are you talking about ?

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:02 PM
 

Friend , how do you win 11 games a year for 5 years without having a pretty dang decent O line ?

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:27 PM
 

You guys are clearly confusing my question of the HISTORY of RECRUITING with DEVELOPMENT. No doubt our coaches have been to develop our players, and our scheme helps OL with a mobile QB and getting the ball quickly away from the opponents DL

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:46 PM
 

Some may be but I'm not we have landed some really high rated guys past few classes. Yes it started with Hyatt but it didn't stop there like I said we just signed under armor all American guard in 17 class also got dehood who was a good 4 star and not to mention 6-7 320+. Simpson and pollard were high 4 stars jake was a top 150 guy. And this class we will most likely land two 5 stars depending on what service with Carmen as 5 star and Salyer and hill 5 star in some services very high 4 stars top 30 in espn so yes we are RECRUITING AND DEVELOPING!

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 3:06 PM
 

Yes we are in the running for Sayler and Hill, which is huge for our program, but where do you see "we will most likely land" them? Because based on interviews, 247, and friends in Georgia, those two are Georgia leans due to their offense and home state. Not saying we won't end up with either, but y'all talk like it's a given.

As for Carman, I think that'll be a long battle that we have a great shot wth.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 9:15 AM
 

Point being Oline recruitment has not been bad as of late.

Go jump off a bridge . And I know your not a coot, because your on twitter all the time. Who knew you were so lame though

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:04 PM
 

Seriously ?

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:12 PM
 

Back in the 90s, when people kept asking..
Why, why can't Clemson get over the HUMP.
I always said, because we can't recruit the
better OL around the country....(DL too)

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:29 PM
 

It's the only thing keeping us from a NC, IMHO.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 1:34 PM
 

Ummmm didn't like every single offensive lineman make all acc in 2015?!?! Simpson, hyatt, pollard, crowder....all of those guys were top 100 players and could have gone anywhere

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Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:06 PM
 
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I know one thing, Georgia is building a fortress. I was just taking a look at the UGA spring game and that Netori Johnson recruit is there. 341lbs and doing cartwheels? I definitely wouldn't be upset with a few of those.

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Right now,according to 247,there's FIVE 5* OL in the Nation.


Posted: Apr 22, 2017, 2:39 PM
 

There's also 36 fours star Olinemen,making the total in the whole US of 4&5 star offensive linemen 41.






That's OL(OT's'OG's & C's combined).

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Posted: Apr 23, 2017, 9:49 AM
 

How far back in history was your question meant to go? Here are some recruiting rankings for OL since 2013:

#2 OT #18 nationally
#7 OT #89 nationally
#11 OT #116 nationally
#5 OG #125 nationally
#12 OG #157 nationally
#10 OG #173 nationally
#14 OG #232 nationally

This doesn't look like poor OL recruiting to me.

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Don't worry....


Posted: Apr 28, 2017, 1:51 PM
 

with Coach BOOM, you are going to land some great O-line talent soon.

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Tyrone Crowder, John Simpson, Jake Fruhmorgen


Posted: Apr 28, 2017, 2:32 PM
 

were all highly rated by the recruiting sites. it's also clear that recruiting sites struggle most with OL and we've done a great job developing talent that we get.

as a followup question for you, will any USC players be drafted tonight? I noticed that none were drafted last night

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How many 5-star high school OL are available each year?


Posted: Apr 28, 2017, 2:48 PM
 

There are just not that many to begin with.

There are only 11 OL total in the entire Rivals Top-100 for 2017.

Of those, there are only three 5-star OL listed and we're well positioned on two of them.

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