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All-In [26469]
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Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 20, 2021, 3:06 PM
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Would have been a solid to include them
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 20, 2021, 3:35 PM
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Because Okla and Texas are leaving then WVU wants in the new Alliance
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 20, 2021, 3:39 PM
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Since this is mainly about football and TV contracts, the Big 12 minus Texas and Oklahoma really isn't all that attractive. The main FB programs left are OSU, TT, TCU and WVA. It is possible a couple of those teams get picked up by another conference but I don't think there is a meaningful alliance partner out there for the Big 12. At best, they wind up aligning with another lower-tier conference.
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 20, 2021, 5:03 PM
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I'm guess they are waiting for the finale break up to see where the remaining teams in the Big 12 will end up. Or since the SEC was more than happy to break that conference up, they are saying they can have what's left also!!!
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Is this a serious question?
Aug 20, 2021, 11:25 PM
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The B1G and Pac 12 have been tight for decades. What the B1G does, the little puppy Pac 12 will do. It makes sense to include the ACC because the ACC is a legit conference and it brings assets to the table.
The Big 8 is now a rump conference that may not even exist in the near future. There is absolutely no reason to include them.
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So they can cherry pick the schools they want out of it***
Aug 21, 2021, 3:49 AM
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 21, 2021, 8:18 AM
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Maybe the Alliance will have a fantasy league day where they pick and choose the remnants of the zombie Big12 and other possible G5 schools of minor interest.
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ACC Cherry Pick Schools
Aug 21, 2021, 8:25 AM
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If the ACC were going to expand; given that you aren't getting any Big 10 or Pac 12 teams - the below would be the best choice in my opinion:
Oklahoma State
Kansas State
Texas Christian
Central Florida(UCF - is not a former Big 12 team; but since we cherry-picking for FB, hey).
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Those are some rotten cherries
Aug 21, 2021, 12:34 PM
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Athletically, OK State, KSU and TCU aren't worth a dime in Chinese money.
I don't know enough about UCF to comment.
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Re: Those are some rotten cherries
Aug 22, 2021, 5:11 PM
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Oklahoma State is much better than think....
Oklahoma State has 52 NCAA team national titles, which ranks fourth in most NCAA team national championships. These national titles have come in wrestling (34), golf (11), basketball (2), baseball (1), and cross country (4).
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Re: ACC Cherry Pick Schools
Aug 21, 2021, 12:41 PM
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I would look at adding Texas Tech and Baylor. That gives us Texas teams. I heard Texas Tech is huge and I remember years ago Baylor wasn't a bad football program
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Re: ACC Cherry Pick Schools
Aug 22, 2021, 5:41 PM
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The remaining Big 12 schools look equal or better than most of the ACC schools minus Clemson
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Orange Blooded [3673]
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Possibly the alliance plans to..
Aug 21, 2021, 8:27 AM
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take whats left of the big 12 and split them up in between conferences? or they are just waiting to see if the big 12 attempts to add teams from the AAC?
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Re: Possibly the alliance plans to..
Aug 21, 2021, 9:43 AM
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They better get them before the SEC fully locks up the recruiting hot bed of Texas and all those TV viewers. Absolutely stupid for the alliance especially not to include the state of Texas in its plans.
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The SEC doesn't need any more Texas teams
Aug 21, 2021, 12:44 PM
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They already have the Big 3: UT, A&M and OU. Those are the only Texas athletic programs HS recruits here (in Texas) give a care about.
When A&M joined the SEC, the floodgates opened to the SEC like never before. I'm not saying Alabama and LSU didn't have success here, but it went to another level. Adding OU & UT will place the state in lockdown to the SEC (I exaggerate somewhat for effect).
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 21, 2021, 8:36 AM
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I would guess that the remaining viable B12 teams will be brought into the ACC, Big 10, or PAC 12. Once the alliance is announced formally, I would not be surprised to see the SEC go after Oklahoma State.
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 21, 2021, 10:44 AM
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Heck, I'm just happy they will include the ACC.
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 21, 2021, 12:50 PM
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I think the SEC will try to pick up a couple more teams. Probably from the soon to be defunct B12.
The SEC will then split into two conferences in order to try to even out the voting power of what was the P5 conferences. They will say that the non-P5 conferences deserve a voting say in the CFB playoff. You will then have the Alliance vs the 2 SEC conferences teamed with the non-P5 schools.
This splits the votes between the Alliance and the SEC schools.
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Orange Blooded [3044]
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 22, 2021, 6:58 PM
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Finebaum spoke a good while about this the other day. Said he is being told the SEC will do away with the divisions.
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 22, 2021, 7:14 PM
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Because part of the Allance’s desire is to stabilize things and that no one else “jump ship”.
The Big12 cannot be expected to abide by such a request.
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Re: Why did the Alliance leave the B12 out to dry?
Aug 22, 2021, 9:21 PM
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According to an article posted in another thread the B12 sided with the SEC in formulating the 12 team playoff so the alliance evidently felt they wouldn't be a viable partner in limiting SEC influence. Seems reasonable but other considerations could also be in play.
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