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Why can’t this team find their groove on offense?
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Why can’t this team find their groove on offense?


Nov 13, 2022, 10:06 AM

One drive they look great and the next they can barely move the ball.

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Nov 13, 2022, 10:16 AM

https://youtu.be/etviGf1uWlg

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Missed blocks, maybe not the only reason but a big reason.


Nov 13, 2022, 10:21 AM

Another …WRs not winning routes and DJ not fast in finding secondary WRs.

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Re: Missed blocks, maybe not the only reason but a big reason.


Nov 13, 2022, 1:20 PM

The WR problem would get loads better if the QB play was consistent

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Nov 13, 2022, 3:46 PM

win,

I disagree. I think the situation is reversed. THE QB play would get a lot better if the WRs would get open.

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Totally disagree. Any offense starts with the QB.


Nov 13, 2022, 7:12 PM

To say WRs are not getting open is sign you're not watching the 2nd and 3rd levels in the stadium. The QB is locking on one guy, and if he's not wide open the QB gets mentally stuck.

We are one of 6 teams out of 131 in the country without a 100 yd receiver in any games. SIX!

Do really think we have receivers that suck that bad, or do we have a delivery problem?

The issue is a delivery problem.

Insert Trevor, Deshaun, Stetson Bennett, Sam Hartman, or Joe P5 QB, and we're much, much better on offense.

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Re: Totally disagree. Any offense starts with the QB.


Nov 13, 2022, 10:12 PM

I live in the top deck so that I can see schemes and such better. I disagree. There are lots of plays where everyone is covered.

I recognize that DJ is slow and mechanical working through his progrssions, but maybe it woul;d n ot be so hard to do if someone was open. I also recognize that he sometimes misses the open man, but often it is the third or fourth option. That is a problem that plenty of QBs have.

Finally, by using your logic, I might argue that DJ would be a much better QB if he had NUKE, Sammy, Tee, etc.

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Re: Totally disagree. Any offense starts with the QB.


Nov 13, 2022, 10:35 PM [ in reply to Totally disagree. Any offense starts with the QB. ]

This is a good argument for Hunter Johnson getting playing time. "Joe P5 QB" that was a former 5star.

LET HUNTER JOHNSON PLAY

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Both can be true. A great wide receiver can help a QB and a great QB can elevate WR play.***


Nov 13, 2022, 11:01 PM



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Re: Missed blocks, maybe not the only reason but a big reason.


Nov 14, 2022, 6:36 AM [ in reply to Missed blocks, maybe not the only reason but a big reason. ]

Must be the cheerleaders cause we all know it cant be the QB!

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Re: Why can’t this team find their groove on offense?


Nov 13, 2022, 10:33 AM

STREETER. No rhythm in play calling

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There's multiple reasons


Nov 13, 2022, 11:21 AM

1. Bad play calling
2. Very conservative and predictable, ties into to number one.
3. Poor execution by players
4. Bad game planning
5. No identity
6. Some players haven't developed or maybe we just missed.
7. Some players are transferring instead of staying around and developing.

If it was so simple it's just one thing it would be an easy fix.

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Shut up, coot.


Nov 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

If we were that bad in so many areas, then we'd suck as much as you. Teams with all those problems you listed are not 9-1 and 9th in the country.

Good thing you have the Birmingham Bowl locked up, because you're not winning another game this season.

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Be better than that. It's lazy and childish to throw insults.


Nov 13, 2022, 11:08 PM

My post is right. The number one culprit is inconsistent quarterback play, but there's other things that tie into it. An honest assessment of our offense that points out some negative things doesn't make me a coot. I graduated from Clemson in 2001. Name calling during a discussion is childish and lazy because you don't have a counter. I'm pretty sure that Dabo will get us back on track in the offseason, but we'll have to wait and see. Heck, there's still a chance we can make the playoffs this year if things fall the right way for us. Cheers.

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Bad WR group and a rookie OC


Nov 13, 2022, 1:06 PM

The WR play is killing us.

And Streeter play calling is off. (running 2 qb draws to kill a drive in the 3rd quarter when shipley and mafah were rolling was almost criminally stupid)

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Re: Bad WR group and a rookie OC


Nov 13, 2022, 1:09 PM

Agree!! That made no sense

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Nov 13, 2022, 1:14 PM

Dabo historically goes beyond conservative when he gets a lead of 10+ in the second half. I think someone mentioned we didn't throw a single pass the last 4 or 5 drives. I feel sorry for Streeter and DJ taking almost all the blame because it's Dabo's philosophy and on him. You can't argue with his record in close games but that doesn't justify it being that conservative. I feel for our players safety when the whole opponents defense can tee off on the backfield. It also puts undo pressure on our defense to finish the game. It will come back to haunt us at some point soon if it continues which I imagine it will. Happy with the win! Please don't TD me. Go Tigers!

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Nov 14, 2022, 6:29 AM

When you have a QB that has a knack for handing the other team points, and your up 2 TDs late, would you let the QB screw up again and give the opposition a chance? The WRs are inferior to past teams, but the QB is the reason nothing looks right or runs right. That backup from Louisville would make the Tiger Offense look much much better.

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Nov 13, 2022, 1:19 PM

100% on DJ he is not a D1 QB and he has not been helped to get to this level

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Nov 13, 2022, 1:22 PM

It’s been that way for 2 years now. It’s really frustrating.

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Nov 13, 2022, 1:22 PM

It’s been that way for 2 years now. It’s really frustrating.

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Nov 13, 2022, 4:00 PM

I am not an expert, but here is my 2 cents. It is DJ. Watch his feet in the pocket. Rarely is he set and he already knows what he is going to do with the ball many times. It is unfortunate, but he seems very indecisive when he passes. I think the reason we run so many bubble screens is because he already knows where he is throwing the ball. Read/option plays it looks like he is already committed to which option he is going to do at the snap.

That being said I think our play calling is limited by his deficiencies. I am upset with play calling and all that, but just my thoughts. Watch HIS FEET!!! It kills me every game. I am a DJ supporter and think he is an excellent ambassador for Clemson.

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Yup. It's extremely lazy of the


Nov 13, 2022, 7:23 PM

"WRs don't get separation" crowd. I

We're one of only 6 teams our of 131 in the country with zero receivers going over 100 yards in a game.

We have (5) top 20 receivers and another top 50. That's out of 1,000s of receivers in the country.

To suggest we have ZERO games without a 100 yards because the WRs are that bad, well, that's just lazy.

Playcalling is limited by the limitations of the QB, exactly like you said. We've tried all sorts of more explosive plays, and the QB doesn't see or doesn't have the confidence to try unless a guy is WIDE open. That's not the way it normally works. Think of Trevor and Deshaun, threading needles and placing balls where the WR has the best chance.

I challenge anyone to pay strict attention to the 2nd and 3rd levels while they're sitting in the stands, and I guarantee they'll see many more free guys than can possibly be seen on TV.

You are spot on, sir.

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Nov 13, 2022, 8:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Why can’t this team find their groove on offense? ]

I hate to say this but it appears to me that there has been no progression in DJU as a QB. His footwork is terrible, his decision making skills & pocket presence is atrocious. I think this lack of development lays squarely on the QB coach. Last year former NFL and Super Bowl winning QB Trent Dilfer spoke about this as it pertained to DJU and TL16. Additionally Streeter's play calling or ability to adapt the offense to meet the strengths of DJU are equally terrible. Watching yesterday's game was semi pathetic. Clemson should have easily beaten UofL by at least 28 points.

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Nov 13, 2022, 4:20 PM

DJ

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The cult will blame DJ or maybe the receivers


Nov 13, 2022, 4:27 PM

because blaming the coaches for not developing talent or having a good game plan means that Dabo is potentially at fault, and cultists aren’t allowed to question the leader.

I don’t see a talent problem on our team. I see subpar player development and a predictable scheme.

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Re: The cult will blame DJ or maybe the receivers


Nov 13, 2022, 4:35 PM

During the game I posted Fire Streeter! So as usual, you like to listen to yourself talk. I am telling my observations and my thoughts. It is like just like your love of your husband, Brad. An opinion, right or wrong. I am frustrated with the play calling, yet I think there is a reason for it, and it is DJ. I like him. He is a great guy and an even better example and team player. You can try to blame development, but maybe we just missed on him. The speed and strength of high school is different than college. Maybe he just cannot adjust to it, mentally and physically. Nobody can argue he has a cannon of an arm.

Brad needs to take you out on the town or something. Tell him that he owes you that. Perhaps that will make you less irritable.

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Ah hah! So Brad can't coach or develop players.


Nov 13, 2022, 7:28 PM [ in reply to The cult will blame DJ or maybe the receivers ]

You finally admitted, albeit you will never admit it.

Fact is, you know NOTHING about football. You try and try and try to drag down the most successful program and coaching staff in the history of sports at Clemson to the misery you're experiencing with the coaching failure in basketball.

So why did we lose to that terrible USuC team? Coaching or players? I'll wait...

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And too, 9-1 and #9 speaks volumes about the football staff making adjustments with


Nov 13, 2022, 7:34 PM [ in reply to The cult will blame DJ or maybe the receivers ]

the QB limitations we have.

Tell me again why your husband is being paid the 38th highest salary in America while only finishing in the top 40 TWICE in 12 years. In football, last we had a barely functional QB and an off year and still got 10 wins and finished 14th. That's adjustments and coaching. Brad has had 12 years and still haven't built a team capable of finishing in the top 25 let alone #14.

You're a farce, Ms. Keller. I honestly don't think you believe the nonsense you post. You're merely an attention seeking troll.

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Consistency at the most critical position on the field..


Nov 13, 2022, 7:06 PM

is holding us back. Love DJ, but that's reality.

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Nov 13, 2022, 8:44 PM

When I watched the Oregon vs. Washington game, all I could think of was the fluidity (is that a word) of the offense. Both were crisp and sharp with no hesitation. It could have been suspect defense but I don't think so. The play calling was sharp and receivers were running free all night. Running lanes were wide open as well.

Put that Washington QB on your next year Fantasy NFL team. He has "it".

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