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Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 8:35 AM
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It sounds like Meyer has lost the locker room already base on this article:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/urban-meyer-scandal-reportedly-reaches-crisis-point-jaguars-owner-issues-statement-on-inexcusable-conduct/
"On Tuesday, Sports Illustrated's Michael Silver reported that the Urban Meyer situation has reached a "crisis point." One player told Silver that Meyer has zero credibility, and had very little to begin with. According to Silver, players were put off by the fact that Meyer canceled Monday's team meeting as he continued to deal with the fallout from the weekend videos. One player reportedly saw Meyer as being "too scared."
Meyer may have no choice but to resign with this much heat.
Would Khan go after Dabo since he coached Trevor and was very successful? Would Dabo take the job if offered?
If there was ever a perfect storm that could pull Dabo away from Clemson this could be it. He doesn't like the rule changes, Clemson is having a down year and it may be timeto moveon while your stockis still high.
I know most Clemson fans think there is no way Dabo would leave but every man has his price.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 8:37 AM
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 9:08 AM
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I have been married to the same woman for 45 years and have never been unfaithful to her in any way. But having said that first I don’t approve of what he was doing. But his wife seems to be okay with it, so there is no problem there. Second, he has not broken any laws. And third how does this incident affect the locker room or football operations.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 10:03 AM
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I read something giving information on his relationship with the locker room this morning.
Apparently he never did much of anything to gain respect in the locker room initially.
In regards to this specific situation it seems the players were upset that he cancelled the normal Monday team meeting and chose to do damage control on his own image rather than meeting with the team on a game week.
Then when he did speak with them, he went to position group meetings instead of facing the whole team. They were also not pleased with what he had to say in the meetings. Several players said that rooms broke out in laughter when Meyer exited because they feel he is such a joke of a head coach.
Apparently Meyer still hasn't had a whole team meeting since the incident.
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1st off- No
Oct 6, 2021, 8:38 AM
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Secondly - No
Thirdly- what a waste of time
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Why?
Oct 6, 2021, 8:48 AM
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Look, I really don't think Dabo's going anywhere, but the situation in Jax does create the question.
I think Meyer wants out. He's out of his depth and is looking for an escape. I think Meyer will be gone. Like Nick Saban, he can't handle the parody and isn't used to the NFL style.
As to Dabo, it's a fair question. Dabo's is probably getting constant calls to test the waters on various opportunities so I don't think it's a waste of time to ask the question.
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Dabo is not an NFL guy. Dabo wants to grow young men to
Oct 6, 2021, 9:03 AM
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be more than just great football players.
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Re: Dabo is not an NFL guy. Dabo wants to grow young men to
Oct 6, 2021, 1:08 PM
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The Jags have “cheerleaders” another won’t fix their problems.
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Re: Why?
Oct 6, 2021, 9:16 AM
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What tells you he's trying to escape? Maybe I missed something cause I don't follow pro football. I know of the incident with the woman. Tbh I didn't think he was cut out for the NFL anyways. His mold stops at CFB level imo.
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no - it really doesn't create the question- you created the
Oct 6, 2021, 10:23 AM
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1) College coaches have mostly proven how unsuccessful they are at the pro game
2) Do you think Dabo wants to be coaching professional athletes? you haven't been paying attn
3) Trevor Lawrence wasn't a good qb or successful because of Dabo, he would have enjoyed the same type of success at any good program with any good coaching staff
4)Do you think Dabo wants to go somewhere where they play almost all their games on SUNDAY?
5)why would a professional football team think Dabo knows the first thing about how to be successful at it? yes, there are some qualities that would transfer but this isn't a gig that you are allowed to grow into
6)exactly what type of pro staff would Dabo be able to hire?
7)Saban acts like a pro coach, has pro bloodlines, could not get it to work.... take a hint- it's a different game. Dabo would be out within a 2-3 years if he went to a pro job - why would he leave the stability of the college world
8)Dabo already makes more $ than he or his family would ever need and he makes a much bigger impact doing it ....
on and on and on
The last thing I want to see is Trevor's career get sidetracked because Jax makes some even bigger idiotic move and hires another college coach(one that has Zero NFL in his blood)....
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Re: no - it really doesn't create the question- you created the
Oct 6, 2021, 12:24 PM
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question
1) College coaches have mostly proven how unsuccessful they are at the pro game
2) Do you think Dabo wants to be coaching professional athletes? you haven't been paying attn
3) Trevor Lawrence wasn't a good qb or successful because of Dabo, he would have enjoyed the same type of success at any good program with any good coaching staff
4)Do you think Dabo wants to go somewhere where they play almost all their games on SUNDAY?
5)why would a professional football team think Dabo knows the first thing about how to be successful at it? yes, there are some qualities that would transfer but this isn't a gig that you are allowed to grow into
6)exactly what type of pro staff would Dabo be able to hire?
7)Saban acts like a pro coach, has pro bloodlines, could not get it to work.... take a hint- it's a different game. Dabo would be out within a 2-3 years if he went to a pro job - why would he leave the stability of the college world
8)Dabo already makes more $ than he or his family would ever need and he makes a much bigger impact doing it ....
on and on and on
The last thing I want to see is Trevor's career get sidetracked because Jax makes some even bigger idiotic move and hires another college coach(one that has Zero NFL in his blood)....
Q1. A lot of "experienced coaches" fail also.
Q2. Well, Dabo is pretty much there right now with NIL and the transfer rule.
Q3. Are you sure? Dabo created an environment where he could grow into the great player he is.
Q4. Do you think he takes Sunday's off now? Please don't tell me you're that naïve.
Q5. Fair Question. The NFL often recycles coaches over and over again expecting different results.
Q6. One of Dabo's strength's is surrounding himself with good people. I think he would be fine.
Q7. Why? Well, he could make more money. Not have have to recruit. Since he's made "more money than he or his family would ever need" he may feel the need for a new challenge while he's still young. He's taken Clemson as high as possible.
Q8. Things change. Dabo's lost 2 games and the Tiger nation is all over him after all he's accomplished. Dabo has made subtle hints over the years about his situation such as comments on when fans are complaining over winning it's time to move or if they are going to start paying players he might as well go to the NFL.
on and on and on...
To the average swinging #### why would he leave? Why would Jax go after him? Probably not. Just a thought.
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Re: no - it really doesn't create the question- you created the
Oct 6, 2021, 6:34 PM
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1)the college coach rate is abysmal
2)NIL is hardly the same thing as coaching pros and NIL wasn't what Dabo was referring to with his old comments
3)Trevor was the #1 recruit because of his talent. Trevor was the #1 pick in the NFL draft because of his talent.
4)I didn't say he takes Sunday's off but there is a difference from taking Sundays off and having gameday on Sundays- No I don't think he would like that but maybe it's not as big of a deal as I think it would be to him
6)good people sure, guys that have the experience and can cut it in the NFL??
7)the challenge would be the only thing
8)honeymoons are non-existent in the NFL
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Need to lock down Tony Elliott to be safe
Oct 6, 2021, 8:38 AM
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Raise ???
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I think they go after Mike Leach
Oct 6, 2021, 8:40 AM
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Because he’s a pirate at heart
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Re: I think they go after Mike Leach
Oct 6, 2021, 9:00 AM
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You do realize that Tampa is the team in Florida with a pirate mascot not Jacksonville right?
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So what i s Miami’s mascot ? Marlins?***
Oct 6, 2021, 10:51 AM
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Re: So what i s Miami’s mascot ? Marlins? Heat
Oct 6, 2021, 11:34 AM
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Hurricanes. SOmething with an H
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Re: I think they go after Mike Leach
Oct 6, 2021, 1:29 PM
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Someone get on the phone to Starkville. Just curious what it would take for Mike Leach to come handle the offense if Coach Elliott gets picked up somewhere over the offseason. I know he makes 5 million per year but maybe there is some middle ground between 2 and 5 million that would be agreeable and Leach wouldn't have to worry about anything but the offense. I have always enjoyed his schemes.
I believe this to be a pipedream as he seems to be too big of a personality to take a step back as a coordinator. If nothing else, the soundbytes would be great.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 8:46 AM
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Get ready. Dare you mention such an attrocity.
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No Kidding..
Oct 6, 2021, 8:51 AM
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I'm old enough to remember when Charley Pell left Clemson right after winning the ACC and beating the Coots. It was a total blind side.
I know we all think Clemson is heaven and there is no way anyone would consider leaving. One day Dabo won't be coaching Clemson. It is inevitable.
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Re: No Kidding..
Oct 6, 2021, 9:05 AM
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Pell was a low character guy. Dabo would never sneak off in the middle of the night.
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Maybe so, but not in the NFL.
Oct 6, 2021, 9:05 AM
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Doubt Dabo wants anything to do with the NFL
Oct 6, 2021, 8:55 AM
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Doesnt fit his style or character at all. And he certainly isnt hurting for money. So why do it?
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 8:57 AM
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I think Dabo likes the molding of young men into productive members of society that he would miss in the NFL. I’m not sure he’d make a good NFL coach. The NFL is different in that the players are paid employees. It requires a different mindset, different motivational and leadership skills. It is crazy to suggest the Jags would go after Dabo just because of the Trevor connection.
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I agree completely.
Oct 6, 2021, 9:07 AM
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After seeing the online video of Meyer and a very young lady
Oct 6, 2021, 8:58 AM
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over the weekend, he needs to be fired. He has some issues that should keep him out of the NFL and college football programs forever.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 8:59 AM
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I would be very shocked if Jacksonville went with a "college coach" again immediately after if this one fails so quickly. They will hire a washed up former NFL coach looking for his 15th team to coach.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 9:04 AM
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I agree the NFL “experts” would lost their minds if they went with 2 college coaches in a row. However, how awesome would Trevor be in Lincoln Riley’s offense? My guess would be they would go after Eric “sleeping with” Bieniemy.
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First off, Meyer is no quitter!!!...Secondly...nevermind***
Oct 6, 2021, 9:00 AM
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Re: First off, Meyer is no quitter!!!...Secondly...nevermind
Oct 6, 2021, 10:24 AM
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hi-blippin-larious
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STOP IT -
Oct 6, 2021, 9:09 AM
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No
Oct 6, 2021, 9:26 AM
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Dabo's not going to the NFL.
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If Meyer is fired and replaced I'd bet good money that the Jaguars won't be looking at the college coaching ranks to replace him. They'd almost certainly be looking for a more known quantity at the NFL level. In other words, they'd be looking for a safer hire after the failure of Meyer trying to make the leap.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 9:39 AM
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The Jaguars need a coach with NFL experience. It's a mess--not a place for a rookie or someone like Meyer who can't hang in there when the going gets tough.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 9:44 AM
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It's an interesting question. The Jags did have Dabo visit them during summer practice. But I don't see Urban leaving. This is the NFL, adults.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 10:00 AM
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If they ended up moving on from Meyer....
Oct 6, 2021, 10:22 AM
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there is no way they go and hire another college coach with zero NFL experience. They'll probably be able to go get a decent coach considering TL is there...they have something to build around. If Dabo ever goes the NFL, doubtful this is the place.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 10:26 AM
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No…and while I like Dabo, what would otherwise give you any indication that his ‘coaching’ Trevor would make any difference in his growth as an NFL QB? Some could argue that TL regressed as a QB the longer he was in our system.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 11:34 AM
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I am not so sure anymore about the "Dabo is not an NFL type guy" mantra. Dabo himself said that when colleges started players that he might as well go to the NFL. Well, here we are in 2021. I agree, 2 years ago, no way he even considers it. Today, with NIL and portal, there's not much difference between college and NFL. However, I would question why the Jags get rid of a former college coach who hasn't had success at the NFL level just to bring in another college guy with no NFL experience.
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Here's the thing.
Oct 6, 2021, 11:49 AM
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We all want Dabo to stay forever, but at some point he will retire or take another coaching job.
When we need to find a new coach, we will carefully decide on who is right for the job.
As the saying goes, "everyone is replaceable" - even Dabo.
I recommend that we enjoy this incredible success we are having, rather than worry about someone else hiring Dabo away.
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Re: Here's the thing.
Oct 6, 2021, 12:34 PM
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We all want Dabo to stay forever, but at some point he will retire or take another coaching job.
When we need to find a new coach, we will carefully decide on who is right for the job.
As the saying goes, "everyone is replaceable" - even Dabo.
I recommend that we enjoy this incredible success we are having, rather than worry about someone else hiring Dabo away.
The Next HC will not only have to be good coach but someone who can maximize NIL and the transfer portal. Like it or not, we are going to lose players that we would have once signed because places like University of Texas have a virtual unlimited amount of money they can now legally spend on NIL deals to bring top kids to there program. I fear "little old Clemson" is not going to be as great of a selling point in a few years.
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The chance to coach Trevor and ETN again could sway him.***
Oct 6, 2021, 1:24 PM
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Lol, no.
Oct 6, 2021, 1:32 PM
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They can't hire another college coach after this disaster.
I also don't think Dabo would be a good fit in the NFL.
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Re: Does Jacksonville Go After Dabo if Meyer has to quit?
Oct 6, 2021, 7:27 PM
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Meyer has an issue everywhere he goes. Even though winning Nattys at FL and OSU, he still left the programs in some state of turmoil. OSU was a sex scandal even though he didn't get painted for it (except by the national audience)
No.Swinney is not leaving for a scandal situation. He doesn's need the money. And he has his wife and boys engrained in the Clemson community. He doesn't need the money. And if he's looking for a challenge, unfortunately he has one. But one that IMO he is the best one that can fix it.
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