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Who's the greatest opposing player you ever saw play in DV?
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Who's the greatest opposing player you ever saw play in DV?


May 17, 2019, 11:44 AM

I'd have to say Calvin Johnson or, as much as I disliked these guys, Jameis Winston or Clowney. Clowney put on a clinic in the 2012 game and Winston did likewise in 2013.

How about you old timers? Herschel?

Anyone pre-1980?

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Neon Deion***


May 17, 2019, 11:46 AM



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You sound old


May 17, 2019, 12:30 PM

I am surprised you even make it out of the house.

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Yup. Sanders and Peter Warrick.***


May 17, 2019, 2:36 PM [ in reply to Neon Deion*** ]



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I was going to say PW. 1997(?) was tough game.***


May 17, 2019, 11:29 PM



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I was going to say PW. 1997(?) was tough game.***


May 17, 2019, 11:29 PM [ in reply to Yup. Sanders and Peter Warrick.*** ]



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May 17, 2019, 11:49 AM

Deion Sanders

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Matty BC Ryan***


May 17, 2019, 11:50 AM



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Re: Who's the greatest opposing player you ever saw play in DV?


May 17, 2019, 11:54 AM

Julius Peppers took over an entire game one time, many years ago.

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May 17, 2019, 11:54 AM

Deon Sanders.

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May 17, 2019, 11:56 AM

Joe Montana and Bruce Smith

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May 17, 2019, 11:57 AM

I will have to echo Deion Sanders and Matt Ryan. I always thought the clown was overrated

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He holds the sack record and he only played here once, he


May 17, 2019, 12:28 PM

was a wrecking crew in 2012...Not sure what you saw, but he closed both halves with a sack

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Warrick Dunn***

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May 17, 2019, 11:58 AM



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julius Peppers could match Woody step for


May 17, 2019, 11:59 AM

step scrambling in the offensive backfield even though he was twice Woody's size

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May 17, 2019, 12:01 PM

I did see Neon Deon, and saw the Punt Rooskie. But I think that I saw Joe Montana lead Notre Dame to a victory in the Valley in the late 1970's and Dan Devine was their coach. On the way off the field, I remember Dan Devine flipped a bird at our crowd. We almost got those guys.

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Yes we about got them....


May 17, 2019, 12:03 PM

….but we haven't lost to them since then!

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Have gotten nothing but Sweet Revenge since then though! ***


May 17, 2019, 12:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Who's the greatest opposing player you ever saw play in DV? ]



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Dan Devine was not well liked, mainly because he didn't


May 17, 2019, 12:05 PM [ in reply to Re: Who's the greatest opposing player you ever saw play in DV? ]

want to let Rudy dress for the Ga Tech game.

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May 17, 2019, 12:07 PM [ in reply to Re: Who's the greatest opposing player you ever saw play in DV? ]

i don’t think sanders ran that play

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May 17, 2019, 12:08 PM



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May 17, 2019, 12:02 PM

Randy White and Joe Montana

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May 17, 2019, 12:08 PM

Pre 1980 Joe Montana, but Lamar Jackson scared the crap out of me on every play.

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Probably Deion Sanders or Warrick Dunn.


May 17, 2019, 12:12 PM

FSU was always loaded back then.

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Who was the player at FSU involved in the Dillards


May 17, 2019, 12:26 PM

shoplifting incident. I remember some tied a balloon to a Dillards shopping bag and floated it at kickoff. Hilarious.

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Peter Warrick?***


May 17, 2019, 1:43 PM



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May 17, 2019, 1:52 PM



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May 17, 2019, 12:12 PM

Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor, Boomer Esiason

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May 17, 2019, 12:13 PM

acevans® said:

I'd have to say Calvin Johnson or, as much as I disliked these guys, Jameis Winston or Clowney. Clowney put on a clinic in the 2012 game and Winston did likewise in 2013.

How about you old timers? Herschel?

Anyone pre-1980?



Montana earned the reputation as “ the comeback kid” , had two come from behind wins in the 4th quarter against Purdue and Clemson. Down 17 and 10 respectably.

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May 17, 2019, 12:17 PM

acevans® said:

I'd have to say Calvin Johnson or, as much as I disliked these guys, Jameis Winston or Clowney. Clowney put on a clinic in the 2012 game and Winston did likewise in 2013.

How about you old timers? Herschel?

Anyone pre-1980?



OLD Timers? Ouch!

Okay..here's an Old Time that hurts....
James McDougald; Wake Forest RB
rushed for 249 yards on 45 carries against Clemson in 1976

Matt Cavanagh Ate Our Lunch in the 1977 Gator Bowl

old Timer...LOL

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May 18, 2019, 12:57 AM

The '77 Gator Bowl was in DV. I missed that.

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Julius Peppers. What he did on our Homecoming was


May 17, 2019, 12:19 PM

shameful.

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May 17, 2019, 12:23 PM

No one has said Herschel Walker yet? If I remember correctly he never scored a TD in DV. Deion definetly stands out in memory.

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May 17, 2019, 1:40 PM

Walker was my pick, but you beat me to it.

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LT: Lawrence Taylor


May 17, 2019, 12:26 PM

The man ate barbed wire before each game.

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finish the sentence...


May 17, 2019, 12:43 PM

"ate barbed wire for breakfast and pooped out roofing nails before lunch"... or something like that.

Back on topic, already been named... Joe Montana, Herschel, Neon, Bruce Smith, LT.

That 1977 Notre Dame team was awesome... beside Joe... Ross Browner, Vegas Ferguson, Ken McAfee, Bob Golic, and a bunch more. Eat up with All Americans and future pros.

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Best I can remember


May 17, 2019, 12:32 PM

Charlie Ward
Joe Montana
Herschel Walker

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May 17, 2019, 9:58 PM

Yeah, I was looking for someone to say Charlie Ward. Arguably one the best opposing athletes to play in DV

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Julius Peppers pick six***


May 17, 2019, 12:33 PM



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May 17, 2019, 12:38 PM

Joe Montana, Herschel Walker, Deion Sanders, Peppers

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Walker, Sanders, Dunn, Peppers***


May 17, 2019, 12:37 PM



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May 17, 2019, 12:40 PM

Lawrence Taylor

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Randy White for Maryland - was and still is...........


May 17, 2019, 12:46 PM

one of the greatest college and NFL O-linemen ever.

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Torry Holt. Best individual performance by an opposing


May 17, 2019, 12:47 PM

Player in death valley imo.

Scored 4 tds just like Al Bundy

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Re: Terry Holt. Best individual performance by an opposing


May 17, 2019, 12:49 PM

I was racing to put Torry Holt too! He absolutely killed us in Death Valley.

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Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Joe Montana***


May 17, 2019, 12:47 PM



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Walker. Except he didn't look "all that" in The Valley.***


May 17, 2019, 12:48 PM



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May 17, 2019, 12:51 PM

Most talented player is pretty close between Clowney and Calvin Johnson even though I believe we held Johnson without a catch in '06. The defensive scheme against Johnson was maybe the most effective I have ever seen at stopping a dominant WR.

Greatest single game performance by an opposing player has to be Lamar Jackson for me. What he did in '16 against a national champion defense was absolutely remarkable. I can appreciate it much more since we were able to outscore him and his WR let him down at the end.

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Yeah I think Johnson's stat line in '06 was something like


May 17, 2019, 1:48 PM

0 catches, 1 rush for -2 yards.

He single-handedly beat us in '04 though...

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May 17, 2019, 12:59 PM

If Gurley would not have had leg issues/cramping in the game in the Valley I think we would have lost. IIRC he took the second half kickoff to the house. He was in and out of that game.

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Danny Kannell ...


May 17, 2019, 1:03 PM

j/k

Thought I'd throw some props his way since he's joined the Clemson fanwagon.

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Wow. Whos whos of NFL HOF


May 17, 2019, 1:05 PM

Joe Montana followed by Lawrence Taylor; Deion Sanders; Calvin Johnson, With Herschel, Clowney; Matt Ryan and Big George honorable mention.

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May 17, 2019, 1:31 PM

There are some great players that have been mentioned. I have thought about this question and have come up with two names that have not been mentioned. Kevin Butler and Doug Flutie. Kevin is probably one of the best kickers that has ever played against us. Flutie, his height, and playing ability do not make sense. He had two great games against us.

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Kenny Stabler***


May 17, 2019, 1:34 PM



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That was 1967 and Stabler went 9-15 for 135 yds. He


May 17, 2019, 1:47 PM

was legendary, but not that day.

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May 17, 2019, 1:37 PM

NCSU's Philip Rivers mentioned yet

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May 17, 2019, 1:53 PM



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Joe Montana.***


May 17, 2019, 1:39 PM



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May 17, 2019, 1:49 PM

Lawrence Taylor

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Deion Sanders although Calvin Johnson was a gigantic Randy Moss***


May 17, 2019, 1:51 PM



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I always remember this catch that Johnson has vs. NCST


May 17, 2019, 1:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRqyjzyBRg

Hate GT, hated CJ did to Clemson when he was a FR but can't hate him... Sad he hung it up so soon.

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Calvin is probably the best performance by a true freshman


May 17, 2019, 3:25 PM [ in reply to Deion Sanders although Calvin Johnson was a gigantic Randy Moss*** ]

He absolutely abused justin Miller and co.

I just kept saying who the F is this guy?!

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he was just way too tall for Justin to guard man2man.


May 17, 2019, 4:44 PM

what can you do.... that wasn't the story though..it was that dang botched snap to the punter with 17 seconds left in the game. Just get the freaking punt off and you probably win. Instead...uuuughhhhh. Thats the first time my wife (girlfriend at the time) saw the crazy fan side of me in the stands...i was red faced and screaming like my dad in lower level section D. happened right in front of us. And i had a feeling it was coming. We were playing our usual Tommy Bowden "trying not to lose" for the entire 2nd half.

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Charlie Ward.***


May 17, 2019, 1:56 PM



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The thing about Sanders is, he absolutely showed out


May 17, 2019, 1:57 PM

against a dang good Clemson team. You could tell he was cut from a different grade of boot leather.

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May 17, 2019, 2:32 PM

Joe Montana

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May 17, 2019, 2:37 PM



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May 17, 2019, 2:37 PM

I will cast my vote for Lawrence Taylor and in the 80’s the entire Maryland team. They gave us fits in the DF era.

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May 17, 2019, 3:02 PM

I remembering going with my dad to see the Maryland team get off the bus. The only thing my dad said was"Clemson is going to lose today". He was right.

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Deion Sanders***


May 17, 2019, 2:51 PM



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May 17, 2019, 3:19 PM

I'd say several were about equal.

Ken "snake" Stabler - Bama/Raiders
Joe Montana - ND/San Fran
Deion - FSU/etc
Herschel - UGA/etc
J. Peppers
Clowney

And it was just fun as a kid watching Bear Bryant prowl the sidelines at DV.

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I remember Bear on the sidelines as well...


May 17, 2019, 5:16 PM



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JJ Watt was a heck of a TE for the Chippewa's***


May 17, 2019, 3:27 PM



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I looked up his stat line from that game:


May 17, 2019, 3:57 PM

1 rec, 14 yards

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I have to admit...

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May 17, 2022, 11:59 AM

I could probably win a lot of Clemson Football trivia contests (at least from the 70s-present)... but I don’t think I had any idea JJ Watt played in the Valley for Central Michigan.
Pretty cool tidbit.

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This article has a pic of his one catch.


May 17, 2019, 4:20 PM

http://blog.mlive.com/fireupchips/2010/03/jj_watt_sets_the_record_straig.html

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May 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

Herschel Walker. Hands down. Although we shut him down that day and I believes UGay had like 9 turnovers

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May 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

Herschel Walker. Hands down. Although we shut him down that day and I believes UGay had like 9 turnovers

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May 17, 2019, 3:59 PM

Don McCauley or Anquan Boldin on that given day. I saw Joe Montana play at DV. He was the best.

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Peter Warrick in 1997


May 17, 2019, 4:06 PM

https://youtu.be/Twq4A-WZ07g

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Man, I don't miss the arrogance of FSU whatsoever.


May 17, 2019, 4:24 PM

Geez almighty I hated them, from Puntrooskie to now.

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May 17, 2019, 4:34 PM

I'd say Herschel though he did not show it against us in 81 and in 80 twixt the hedges they were hardly playing him yet. I remember two plays in particular: 80 against Tenn a DB his size got into a head on collision and Herschel literally ran over him, Then against the dirtpeckers that same year in the big matchup with George Rodgers it was close and I think the poultry actually led, Herschel was running wide, a chicken DM clearly had the angle on him but Herschel just put it in another gear, flanked the guy, and ended up in the end zone with 15 yards of space on the guy.

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TA McClendon ran it right through us one night DV.


May 17, 2019, 4:37 PM

Think he ended up with close to 200 yards that night.

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He and phillip rivers tore us up on a Thursday night***


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Lawrence Taylor was a beast


May 17, 2019, 4:48 PM

Then maybe Deon.

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Lamar Jackson***


May 17, 2019, 6:02 PM



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May 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

Hands down: Joe Montana & Deion Sanders

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May 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

Prime time Sanders. No one else even close. I would put the Clown at a distant second.

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May 17, 2019, 9:40 PM

Doug Flutie

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May 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

Julius Peppers and Charlie Ward

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May 17, 2019, 10:05 PM

I seem to remember Matt Shaub and Phillip Rivers tearing our secondary up at will back in the day. I HATED those two. It seemed like every time the ball left their hand it was a first down or worse

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May 17, 2019, 10:52 PM

It's been awhile, but Pat Sullivan and Terry Beasley for Auburn were amazing. In 1969 they beat us 51-0,1970 44-0 & 1971 35-14

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Apparently I was at the notre dame game when


May 17, 2019, 11:28 PM

joe Montana was playing. I just don’t remember.

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