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Re: Who'd Ever Want To Play For Brian Kelly!? ????
Apr 4, 2017, 3:39 PM
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i saw that last night - much better way to frame that. a "good" coach would have done that. its the "off the field" comment that gets me - and right before the draft. total dooshie move
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Pete Carroll said the same thing about Mark Sanchez
Apr 4, 2017, 3:50 PM
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Pete was right or seemingly so.
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/mark-sanchez-still-isn-t-ready-pete-carroll-131346161--nfl.html
If Kelly thinks his QB is not ready, then what should he say....just "no comment"? I think saying no comment would be worse than being somewhat critical. I'd play for him. He wouldn't be my first choice, but I respect the honesty.
At least he is transparent and not blowing sunshine. I think if you polled the collective brain trust (albeit not a very powerful one) that is TigerNet, that poll would overwhelmingly say" he isn't ready."
He is advising his QB to stay and the QB has decided to go. Kind of like a parent supporting the child but not the decision. DW was ready and Dabo stated such. If DW wasn't ready then perhaps Dabo would have said as well.
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Re: Pete Carroll said the same thing about Mark Sanchez
Apr 4, 2017, 4:10 PM
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The point is less whether Kizer is ready but more so that no coach should be so candid about their opinion about the matter, particularly 2 weeks before the NFL draft. That's a closed-door discussion between the coaches, the player himself, and perhaps the parents. I don't think anyone would argue Kizer isn't ready, yet and still, he's projected as a 1st-2nd round option for most teams. I doubt very much that once a player made his decision, Dabo would ever publicly say anything close to what Kelly said about Kizer yesterday, particularly the "on and off the field" bit. Dabo is 10x the coach and mentor that Brian Kelly is. He was exposed on the Showtime series, exposed in the win-loss column, and exposed once again with this latest commentary. I can't believe Notre Dame has extended his contract to be honest.
That being said, if Dabo didn't tell Tajh Boyd to stay his senior year, he could have been drafted first round as a junior. He stayed a year and, well, never made it in the NFL. Life is about opportunities and the window shuts quicker for some than others. But once a player has made up his mind, don't bash his decision in a public forum. No good coach would do that.
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Re: Who'd Ever Want To Play For Brian Kelly!? ????
Apr 4, 2017, 3:50 PM
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I'm starting to feel strongly that Brian Kelly is the right man for Notre Dame for many years to come. I like what he's building with the program.
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Re: I hate Brian Kelly, and think he's a terrible coach,
Apr 4, 2017, 4:09 PM
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“I’ve got a lot of relationships built on trust with G.M.s and head coaches in the NFL,” Kelly said. “I’m going to be honest with them and honest with DeShone. There’s a lot of growth that has to take place. But I go back to what are the common threads a great player needs to have. He’s got to have traits of excellence. He’s got to be able to have attention to detail and that focus, he’s got to be smart and he’s got to have the ability to grind and a great attitude. He’s got those traits but they’ve got to be continuously worked on. Whoever takes DeShone, he’s not a finished product in those areas. But when he does get more time to work on those traits, you’re going to have a great young man and a great quarterback. The skills are out there, you can see them. You can go to the workout and see that he’s got those skills, he’s just not complete yet. If you want to draft him and say come on, turn it over to him, you’re going to have to support him with great leaders around him and great leadership. But if you’re going to give him time and get a mentor for him, you’re going to have a great guy. That’s my honesty when I talk to G.M.s and head coaches.”
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Dabo said pretty much the same thing about Nuk...
Apr 4, 2017, 4:26 PM
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Is he a "tool" too?
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Re: Dabo said pretty much the same thing about Nuk...
Apr 4, 2017, 5:41 PM
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Dabo's candor didn't talk about "off the field" issues and came in January of 2013, not two weeks before the draft in April, after pro day, after the combine, etc. Go back and compare what Dabo said vs. what Brian said. Dabo was genuinely concerned about the cost / benefit of foregoing your senior year and physical / mental growth for an early paycheck. He said a million dollars doesn't go as far as it used to, (i.e. Second round money and beyond). Dabo, since day 1 through today, has placed importance on college education and the privilege to attain the DEGREE. Kelly said "I'm going to support his business decision BUT Kizer needs more football".
Further, my labeling of Brian Kelly as a "tool", (which you so graciously and unnecessarily put in quotes), arrives from a culmination of actions, as pointed above, not just a sentence extracted from one opinion. He will never be the coach that Dabo is. Dabo's program is elite and still climbing; Brian Kelly's is good and that's all it will ever be.
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