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Where in the world is this version of DJ???
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Where in the world is this version of DJ???


Jan 13, 2022, 11:25 AM

https://youtu.be/-93b--pQbLI

If you skip toward the end you can catch the game but even in practice he looks completely different. Quicker release and isn’t winding up on everything. Also what happened to his escaping ability?

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Re: Where in the world is this version of DJ???


Jan 13, 2022, 11:31 AM

No Question. He was a big time HIGH SCHOOL quarterback.

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Well...


Jan 13, 2022, 11:34 AM

For one, he's not wearing a monster knee-brace and doesn't have his fingers all taped up.

For two, he's not facing a major pass rush or feeling any real pressure

Third, he doesn't have an entire team on his shoulders, and

Four, his parents are in the middle of a divorce all the way across the country.

Not making excuses for him, but I think those would be the big differences. Hopefully he can re-discover that version of himself during the spring and off-season and be back in prime form come next season. I'd love to see that for him and for us!

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Re: Well...


Jan 13, 2022, 11:43 AM

It’s not even close to being all on DJ, he looks completely different on the field now compared to last year and in highschool. Just wondering if it’s all mental or if his mechanics have been played with to the point of messing his mojo up. Watch him play in highschool and even last year the confidence that he’s the best was there this year not so much.

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Re: Well...


Jan 13, 2022, 12:32 PM [ in reply to Well... ]

Let's break this down.

1. Let's not pretend that he was struggling with injuries all season. He looked like trash before the injuries. First game I thought it was just the Georgia D and a suspect O line. That proved not to be the case.

2. Even when not pressured he made bad decisions, overthrows, throws at screen receiver's feet etc. Pressure just made things worse.

3. He in no way had the entire team on his shoulders. A veteran defense was carrying this team. Average QB play could have won every game the team lost.

4. Feel bad for the kid. I haven't heard him come out and say this was an issue or mention that there was personal problems going on. I dare say that Big Dave is more the problem than the actual divorce.

I hope the best for the kid and I hope he has a great spring and plays next season like everyone thought he would this season. But, 13 games later I just do not see it. His decision making skills seem to be lacking, he has yet to show any control or touch on his passes and he probably needs to drop 15 pounds to increase his mobility. Sadly, I think the only the only one of those he can change is the weight.

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Re: Well...


Jan 13, 2022, 3:02 PM

Most of the defensive pressure he felt was in his own head. He seemed to be feeling pressure that wasn't there a lot of the time. Not sure how coach a guy out of feeling nonexistent pressure. Its almost like he had never been hit until this season and once he was he played scared the rest of the season, which is bizarre considering how big he is.

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Re: Well...


Jan 13, 2022, 3:21 PM [ in reply to Well... ]

I agree on all but the divorce. That has nothing to do with it and nothing to do with his play!
Injuries,yes!
Upgrade in competition, yes
Bad offensive line play

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That’s dj with a 100% knee and hand


Jan 13, 2022, 11:34 AM

We don’t know the extent but it is pretty #### obvious he had a bad knee. Knees are different for everybody

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Jan 13, 2022, 11:36 AM

in that game he was being blocked by 5* players and throwing to 5* players with absolutely zero pressure of the game mattering.

Now he has a patch work OL, 6 highly recruited WR's out with injuries, #1 and #3 RB left, and his top 2 TEs are also injured combined with the pressure of being 100% the guy and the game mattering.

I'm lost on how that doesn't make sense.

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and in a practice with no pressure or a pass rush.***


Jan 13, 2022, 11:37 AM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: Where in the world is this version of DJ???


Jan 13, 2022, 11:37 AM

Where in the world are the receivers we have been used to and the offensive linemen to block? Answer your question with a question.

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DJ certainly didn't have a great year, but...


Jan 13, 2022, 11:38 AM

there is plenty of blame for that to go around. It ain't all on DJ.

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Re: DJ certainly didn't have a great year, but...


Jan 13, 2022, 11:41 AM

I’m not blaming DJ in the slightest asked a simple question that I guess the TDers couldn’t grasp. From the Georgia game on DJ just look seriously uncomfortable, nothing like last year, or in high school. We know he can do it just wonder if someone messed with his mechanics or what happened

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It’s apparent you can’t grasp the answers***


Jan 13, 2022, 11:46 AM



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Re: It’s apparent you can’t grasp the answers***


Jan 13, 2022, 11:51 AM

It’s apparent conversations on message boards can’t happen without assuming your talking crap about someone

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says the person who wrote:


Jan 13, 2022, 2:59 PM

"asked a simple question that I guess the TDers couldn’t grasp." if you can take criticism don't give any

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Re: DJ certainly didn't have a great year, but...


Jan 13, 2022, 3:13 PM [ in reply to DJ certainly didn't have a great year, but... ]

You want him starting next year?

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Re: DJ certainly didn't have a great year, but...


Jan 13, 2022, 3:15 PM

Absolutely, hope he gets his head together and plays lights out. Our best scenario is DJ playing great and giving Cade a year to grow and learn the offense front to back

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Re: Where in the world is this version of DJ???


Jan 13, 2022, 11:45 AM

I watched the entire video.

I don't see anything different.

If you watch closely in the practice videos, a number of the passes are off target. Those WR, RB and TEs caught the balls in the video. Many of our options at those same positions dropped the balls thrown in the exact same spots on their body, but everybody had already decided that DJ was terrible and it must have been his fault for not throwing a perfect pass.

Also in terms of how he is moving, it's pretty much the same as prior to his knee injury except the guys chasing him are much slower and smaller.

Same physical guy, different surroundings.

The biggest difference between that video and DJ from this season at Clemson is that he expected every play in that video to work out in his favor. There was no doubt in his actions and responses to the defense. That is the major "return to old" that I want to see in the '22 version of DJ.

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Jan 13, 2022, 11:50 AM

Idk just looked a lot looser to me, ball was coming out a lot quicker with less of a windup. Still pretty sure it’s 90% mental just trying to see if mechanics has changed. Also didn’t have fans going all out against him on social media back then either

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

The tightness and slower reaction speed comes from doubt.

Not until players get much older than DJ are those things physical changes (like retirement age).

UGA cast doubt into his head to start the season and everyone around him on our offense fed off of his doubt.

I'm sure the pressure from off of the field stuff may have played a part in his general looseness as well, but when a player who has only ever considered succeeding begins to think that failure is a very distinct possibility it can be almost paralyzing.

I think that is why you heard the coaches rain praise on DJ for how hard he fought through this season. They weren't saying that he was great and everyone around him was bringing him down. It seemed much more to me like they were praising him for fighting his own demons a little bit and choosing perseverance.

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:29 PM

No doubt like I said earlier I couldn’t of handled what he went through this year as cool headed as he did. Hate it for him we saw his greatness last year.

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Jan 13, 2022, 1:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Where in the world is this version of DJ??? ]

Two thoughts … 1) it’s been reported (right or wrong) coaches asked DJ to lose weight before Fall practice and instead he gained. More weight equals more pressure on knees. 2) UGA Defense was legit with some NFL talent. DJ lost some confidence in game 1 which lingered all year.

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Jan 13, 2022, 1:40 PM

I'm not a psychologist so I am not able to back this up with facts but dealing with stress makes most people either gain or lose weight (whichever their body is inclined to do) and I would imagine that DJ's family situation may have caused his body to go in the wrong direction compared to his desired training goals.

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I just wish people would be nice to the kid.


Jan 13, 2022, 11:53 AM

People get angry at him like he's trying to screw up.

He's a Clemson man. He's trying. Things got rough. Let the program handle it.

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Jan 13, 2022, 11:55 AM

Not being mean DJ has gotten to much blame for this year, was just really thinking about what changed. Social media is ruthless on DJ he and his family handle it a thousand times better then I could ever dream of

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Jan 13, 2022, 1:57 PM [ in reply to I just wish people would be nice to the kid. ]

It’s worse CSO. No one thinks DJ’s trying to screw up. I expect Dabo and Street will give media & fans an “explanation” as to why DJ was one of the worst 2021 college QB’s in the nation going into Spring camp to build esteem and save face - likely a leg and hand injury. But in fairness to DJ, we had no one else to put in the games.

Wally Pipp. My opinion is that it does not matter long term. Wally Pipp was the anchor of the Yankees prior to Lou Gehrig’s 1st start. Lou Gehrig was better and Pipp never started at 1st base again. I expect Klubnik will replace DJ early in the season based on better mobility, accuracy and ability to audible and hit 2nd/3rd options. No hard feelings to DJ. It’s football. Best man up at every position.

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:12 PM

DJ played in one of the most competitive high school leagues in the country. Trust me he saw plenty of pressure in games. He was solid at ND and against BC. Between injuries, confidence shaken from Georgia game and what I think is a case of the yips, he needs to heal physically as well as mentally. The surrounding cast needs to get better as well. I can't help but think he will be better next year, if not, now we have Klubnik who brings a different skillset and seems primed.

Regardless, I have much respect for DJ, he was a gamer, kept a positive attitude, never blamed anyone else and never gave up. The constant bashing has been over the top. By all accounts, he seems like a great kid.

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:19 PM

Absolutely and the best case scenario is for DJ to come back together and play lights out to give Cade a year. No doubt he can do it you don’t forget to play the way he did. The way he kept his head up through all the adversity and backlash from fans which some are insane speaks volumes. If he can get out of his head he will light the country up next year

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:35 PM

Not an excuse ... just a partial explanation is that his mom and dad are going through a divorce, and he has taken this pretty badly. His mind floats elsewhere causing him to lose focus, and he's gained weight. FWIW ...

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Jan 13, 2022, 1:13 PM

Perfect storm! With all that has ben said I pretty much agree with some of the criticism and some of his defense. However, DJ getting rattle pretty bad in the GA game and Justin Ross was called upon to be the go to receiver(being out of FB over a year) and with only one week of practice working together in fall caused bad timing issues for DJ and the rest of the offense. So after being rattled in the first game he started hurrying and some was justified with bad OL play and some was on him. Lets see what happens over the next 8 months and we all will know if he can be the QB that is talented enough to lead us back to the playoffs, or will CK be T-neters new hero or fall guy.

I know watching the playoff sucked this year without our beloved Tigers in the mix!

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Jan 13, 2022, 1:51 PM

He is still there! He only had 1 WR to look for. He is great when his first guy is open, it's when he has to go thru progression and he fails. Guy can throw the ball but he falters if his #1 is covered

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Jan 13, 2022, 2:03 PM

Maybe a few things need to change. The play calling, his confidence, wr's need to step up, and the OL needs to step up big time. After a bit the game will slow down for him. JMO

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Jan 13, 2022, 2:05 PM

And the obvious..Get Healthy!

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Jan 13, 2022, 2:44 PM

Which is why we should all pump the brakes on Cade. Just chill and see what happens.

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About 400 Dr Peppers and 200 Big Bo Boxes Ago***


Jan 13, 2022, 3:05 PM



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DJ's fine when a receiver is moving straight away from him.


Jan 13, 2022, 3:12 PM

ND didn't know that when we played them in South Bend. UGA and everyone we played this season did. DJ also performs well when there's no pass rush and when he's not seeing ghost.

Unfortunately for him, he has not overcome his inability to lead a receiver who is moving perpendicular to the length of the field. I do not wish ought on him but I do not believe he will overcome his inefficiencies.

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Re: DJ's fine when a receiver is moving straight away from him.


Jan 13, 2022, 3:56 PM

If that's the case we need to use the TE more.

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Jan 13, 2022, 3:57 PM

Still had awful footwork then though. That’s more a testament to Streeter being a terrible developer and not teaching him better technique by now, though…

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Jan 13, 2022, 4:05 PM

I think it was 100% mental. WR play was not good and so he couldn’t even get into rhythm. Wide open WR consistently would have helped build
Confidence back that he clearly lost and never got back. So if he doesn’t get over the mental hump I guarantee a Klubnik run team in 2022. If he does? Works real hard in the off season and WR play takes a huge leap the. Klubnik will be riding the pine as we watch what we were supposed to be seeing in the form of 5* DJ.

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