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For those that say our S&C program is so bad...
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For those that say our S&C program is so bad...


Dec 20, 2012, 7:32 PM

Maybe you are right in some respects but its obvious to me that the huge difference in size between some teams (like most SEC schools and Stanford to name a few) is more than just a better S&C program. Take your heads out of the sand. It's as obvious as when Sammy and McGuire were hitting all those home runs.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8765531/steroids-loom-major-college-football-report-says

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Sorry but that's been posted at least 4 times today *****


Dec 20, 2012, 7:33 PM



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Then don't click on it***


Dec 20, 2012, 7:37 PM



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Excuse me for trying to be polite and not type GERMANS*****


Dec 20, 2012, 7:52 PM



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Haha...I don't mind either


Dec 20, 2012, 8:01 PM

I just put the link in for reference. I posted mainly to comment, not to say I found some breaking news. I've been beating this drumb for a while but most just chalk it up to a bad S&C program.

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Re: look at poster belows handle


Dec 20, 2012, 8:06 PM

for a hint on how to spell drum

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Thanks spelling police


Dec 20, 2012, 8:10 PM

I hate typing on this ipad.

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Re: Sorry but that's been posted at least 4 times today *****


Dec 20, 2012, 7:37 PM [ in reply to Sorry but that's been posted at least 4 times today ***** ]

Hey we may have an audience of slow learners here. Give him a break. Repetition taught me the ABC's.

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Make that 5.***


Dec 20, 2012, 8:03 PM [ in reply to Sorry but that's been posted at least 4 times today ***** ]



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There's something in these hills.


Clemson's linemen aren't any smaller than SEC players


Dec 20, 2012, 7:48 PM

I haven't looked to compare, but in years past we've had some of the bigger lines around.

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Look at the foreheads and you'll see HGH is used at ..


Dec 20, 2012, 8:18 PM

Clemson too, probably for those with injuries. All you have to do is google photos of Bama linebackers Upshaw, Hightower and others to see they are using excessive amounts of HGH, and I'm sure they are using roids too. Their bodies are like that of the incredible hulk and so sculpted...definitely using roids. The guy in the article tells you there's no penalty for them using them. I'm sure it's prevalent at other schools too. The secret to the SEC is their dominating lines of scrimmage. Now you know.

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Roids


Dec 20, 2012, 10:29 PM

SEC teams and Stanford eat steroids like skittles but players from other teams do too we have the size as many of those schools just lack their toughness imo

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and if you look at last year's S&C all americans...


Dec 20, 2012, 8:21 PM [ in reply to Clemson's linemen aren't any smaller than SEC players ]

Clemson had 1 in baseball, the SEC had none; Clemson also had 1 in football, while I don't think I saw any from the SEC.

https://www.nsca.com/uploadedFiles/NSCA/Resources/PDF/Membership/2012%20All%20American%20Book.pdf

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Dont agree....


Dec 20, 2012, 8:44 PM [ in reply to Clemson's linemen aren't any smaller than SEC players ]

I went to the UF LSU game this year and went to the CLEM NCSU game. The size between the two sets of teams....part. along the LOS... is distinctly noticeable.

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I agree...the mass may weigh the same but it's distributed..


Dec 20, 2012, 8:52 PM

remarkably different. The sculpted muscle mass on the SEC boys is very obviously different.

I'm telling you...google the Bama linebackers on google images and study their caveman foreheads. Then, google images of some of the best college football players in this state and compare. It's fairly obvious. If they're using PEDs they're using HGH too, at least when injured, though not sure that always works in reverse. I'd bet there's a strong connection though.

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I think you went there with that idea already in your head


Dec 20, 2012, 9:42 PM [ in reply to Dont agree.... ]

the difference is all in your head. Heck, Tom O'Brien was always known for recruiting huge offensive lines.

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DEAD WRONG....alot of assumptions there...


Dec 21, 2012, 10:53 AM

I go to alot of SEC and ACC games---there is a huge difference

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Well that's solved.


Dec 20, 2012, 8:03 PM

We are the top school that doesn't do steroids. Give us the BCS national championship now! Wow it's nice to get my head out of the sand and see the truth!

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Re: For those that say our S&C program is so bad...


Dec 20, 2012, 8:29 PM

I have said this before and will say again...,. NCAA should test all teams twice a year for drugs. They have the money to do this and should not turn away from this responsibility. Don't trust the colleges to do this. I know, go ahead and tell this old guy SC doesn't use Steriods.

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Re: For those that say our S&C program is so bad...


Dec 20, 2012, 9:40 PM

Our S&C program is not up to snuff, and it has nothing to do with steroids, just compare.

Clemson:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXzE-XTESFk

South Carolina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEpn77u8CZU

And Swinney and company wonder why they have been manhandling us on the field the past four years. Heck even compare our program to Maryland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rNP_GBKIlQ

With the amount of talent we have now and are continuing to bring in, it's unacceptable for us to be 0-2 against the only two solid teams we've played this year, and 0-4 against the coots in the past four years. And part of the problem is that we CLEARLY are not as physical as those high caliber teams we are playing. Imagine what we could do with our athletes had a legitimate S&C program...

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Re: For those that say our S&C program is so bad...


Dec 20, 2012, 9:15 PM

You are so naive to think only SEC schools are using PED's but Clemson is totally clean. Plus, maybe some of the size difference is due to this little thing called recruiting. The SEC schools like LSU and Bama get the cream of the crop while Clemson gets good players, but not quite at the same level.

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Bama starts with better talent and...


Dec 20, 2012, 9:18 PM

juices them like crazy with HGH...Clemson less talent and no HGH or roids...easy to see the difference.

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Re: Bama starts with better talent and...


Dec 20, 2012, 9:37 PM

Why do you think Clemson is the only clean program among all these schools in the southeast? You recruit from the same talent pool and coaches go back and forth between programs but Clemson is above all that? Wow, just wow

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Not saying CU is totally clean but...


Dec 20, 2012, 9:56 PM

when I look at CU's photos I do not see athlete after athlete with a Cro-Magnon forehead. Google the Bama linebackers images and look at their Cro-magnon foreheads... that forehead went out of style before the last ice age buddy. Why do ALL of Bama's linebackers have a Cro-magnon forehead? I look at Spencer Shuey...Tig Willard...none of them have this Cro-Magnon forehead? Are you really this dense?

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C'MON MIKE AND CAM give me and answer...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:04 PM

to the question above. I posted a logical response with telling evidence for my viewpoint...and poof....you disappear. What's your response...excuse...something?

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Re: C'MON MIKE AND CAM give me and answer...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:25 PM

How about I moved on to other threads when I thought this one went cold? Sheesh, should I check with you on all my activities now?

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Not necessary...but can you answer the question?


Dec 20, 2012, 10:32 PM

I'll restate -

Why do virtually ALL of Bamas linebackers have caveman foreheads? What would cause this? Do you know? Were they uncovered frozen neanderthal specimens from a glacier and magically brought back to life?

I'm curious now what LSU's front seven's foreheads look like...hahaha...

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Re: Not necessary...but can you answer the question?


Dec 20, 2012, 10:33 PM

I answered

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I don't see it...you moved on is your answer?


Dec 7, 2021, 8:21 AM

You know I am right and anyone who is observant and understands PED's and their side effects knows I am right. The coots have some of those Cro-Mag foreheads going too. A few on some very high profile players. We know the answer don't we Mike... ;)

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Another good example... here you go Mike...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:41 PM [ in reply to Re: Not necessary...but can you answer the question? ]

about right now are you questioning if everything you thought was real is real and legitimate? Does it take the luster away to know it was all attained in such a shady way Mike?



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Compare to this guy Mike...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:44 PM [ in reply to Re: Not necessary...but can you answer the question? ]

notice the forehead difference? SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC

Does knowing the real truth...it's all a lie...dampen your spirits there Mike?



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Re: Not saying CU is totally clean but...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:23 PM [ in reply to Not saying CU is totally clean but... ]
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Do you really think steroids affect foreheads, dummy? They can cause your hairline to recede but it's not like it causes the skull to protrude out or lengthen. For comparison's sake I present you some photos that I attached.

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Re: Not saying CU is totally clean but...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:30 PM [ in reply to Not saying CU is totally clean but... ]

Your proof is some made up BS observation, very convincing. Have you ever heard of genetic diversity? Not everyone is born with the same proportions. Hair style affects your evidence, too. If all the guys had dreads in their eyes instead of a fade making their foreheads clearly visible, you have no argument (although I would say this one is so weak you effectively lack one now).

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You don't understand what you are talking about...


Dec 20, 2012, 10:58 PM

High levels of HGH absolutely makes the forehead protrude in a line at or just above the brow. The Clemson players you post as examples proves my point. Look just above the brow for that ridgeline that develops. Sammy does not have it, neither does Ellington. Do a little research and get back to me. It has nothing to do with the size of the forehead.

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Re: You don't understand what you are talking about...


Dec 21, 2012, 12:21 AM

There is literally no hope for your kind of stupid. Some people are born with naturally big foreheads, so how are you telling the difference between natural and "chemically enhanced"?

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you sound like such a wannabe***


Dec 20, 2012, 9:43 PM [ in reply to Bama starts with better talent and... ]



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Yeah...I wanna be a caveman...good one Cro-Magnon****


Dec 20, 2012, 9:52 PM



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Re: you sound like such a wannabe***


Dec 20, 2012, 9:52 PM [ in reply to you sound like such a wannabe*** ]

A wannabe what? Realist?

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Re: you sound like such a wannabe***


Dec 20, 2012, 9:54 PM

######, I hate the format of this board! I thought I was being called a wannabe.

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it's really obvious who you replied to in thread view***


Dec 20, 2012, 9:56 PM



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Re: it's really obvious who you replied to in thread view***


Dec 20, 2012, 9:59 PM

Thanks, that's much better

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Take off those $EC glasses and maybe you would see it better


Dec 20, 2012, 9:32 PM [ in reply to Re: For those that say our S&C program is so bad... ]

Otherwise I can't help you

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Re: Take off those $EC glasses and maybe you would see it better


Dec 20, 2012, 9:41 PM

If anybody is looking at the situation with extreme bias it's you. A percentage of some athletes at every school, every sport are taking PED's and illegal supplements. I don't mean to condone it, but I don't kid myself into thinking nobody on my favorite team is guilty of breaking rules.

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I never said no one at Clemson uses them.


Dec 20, 2012, 9:45 PM

I'm sure someone does, but it's obvious that it is rampant in certain programs and a lot of them are in the $EC. You don't have to know a whole lot about S&C to know what's natural and what's not.

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Re: I never said no one at Clemson uses them.


Dec 20, 2012, 9:49 PM

Whatever, dude. All I hear is excuses from Clempson on why they are irrelevant.

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Why exactly are you here corn dog?


Dec 20, 2012, 9:51 PM

Don't you have some garbage to collect or floors to sweep?

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Where exactly are you in cyberland n' who do you gotta face


Dec 20, 2012, 9:51 PM [ in reply to Re: I never said no one at Clemson uses them. ]

in 10 days, Sir Relevance?

Somebody's been drinking w/ OhSon.

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Re: Where exactly are you in cyberland n' who do you gotta face


Dec 20, 2012, 9:56 PM

What the hell is in 10 days? Not the bowl

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Pardon me.. 10 days 21 hours n' 31 minutes. Feel better?***


Dec 20, 2012, 9:58 PM



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Re: For those that say our S&C program is so bad...


Dec 20, 2012, 9:40 PM

Another excuse, how may can the tiger fans come up with?

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As Walt would say, this is patently absurd...


Dec 21, 2012, 1:47 AM

This dude talking about he can tell by looking at foreheads...what the heck? So you pick random guys on the team who fit the discription (caveman forehead) and label them as roid users??? C'mon on! They may as well do away with drug test and hire you just to go through photos and pick these guys out. There is nothing unusual about these dudes appearances. BTW, there are distinct facial characteristics between many different people, especially when it comes to race. I've got a fairly prominent brow line but I can assure you, I've never touched the stuff.

I'm not saying that the use of these drugs aren't used in collegiate sports but this dude's rational on how to spot them is ridiculous.

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